Skills - Barrage

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Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

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Moofoo Pork

Moofoo Pork

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Brothers Of The Illuminati

Where is this skill located?

Amnisac

Amnisac

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Marhan's Grotto

Running Makes It Worse [Run]

R/E

It's an elite, you can cap it from Markis at the Iron Mines of Molandune Mission. I don't think it's possible to get it though, with the new SoC change in the latest patch. Scince Markis' death brings on the end of the mission cutscene.

Edit: You can also cap it from Snyk The Hundred Tongue in Abaddon's Mouth. But this is one of the few last missions in the game.

Meatwad630

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2005

Amnisac is correct, you can no longer capture this skill from Markis due to the new SoC. I have already reported this to Guild Wars support and am currently waiting for a response. However, I am currently tracking down Snyk The Hundred Tongue.

Aernok

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Texas

Appetite For Destruction

R/Mo

Snyk sucks to get to. Be careful once you cross the bridge to the island. There's a sand wurm that pops up and harasses you. Took me an hour to move it far enough away that I could rez my henchies and continue.

tmtracy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Springfield, Missouri

House Of Baenre [HoB]

R/Mo

So, since the patch, where is the next place to get it?

Zaklex

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

San Jose, CA, USA

Remnants of Ascalon

The next place is from a burrower ranger boss burrower in Abaddon, though I could tell you that the problem with Markis and any other end mission bosses will most likely be fixed in the next patch, but I'm just speculating on that.

tmtracy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Springfield, Missouri

House Of Baenre [HoB]

R/Mo

and it was...

The Red Knight

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Zero Files Remaining [LaG]

R/Mo

Believe you can get it from markis once again

Shadow_Avenger

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Stolen Dreams

R/Me

Very nice skill, very effective in PvE, not that effective in PvP, reasonable damage, but lossing preps in PvP makes its usefulness limited. In PvP unlike PvE grouping is not as common making the skill less effective.

Demonic Knight

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2005

Order of Morning Star

R/W

You can also get it from Vatlaaw Doomtooth (Charr Boss)

Ginko

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

The Illuminati

That's incorrect, Vatlaaw is in Ascalon. The first few Elites can be obtained in the desert, there are a few in the S. Shiverpeaks and the most are in the Fire Islands.

I believe ArenaNet has adressed the issue with Markis and a few other bosses in the latest update.

--Ginko

salja Wachi

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Chicago

the Bleeding Edge

N/Mo

yes markis ahs been fixed. you can now cap the skill from him

Swarnt Brightstar

Swarnt Brightstar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Mongolia!... But sadly Florida

Rulers of Mythology <ROM>

R/Mo

how is it incorrect how you can get it from vatlaaw?

What if you obtain a signet of capture then go back and capture it from vatlaaw. I want this skill extremely badly, but-as of yet-I cannot get it

MCS

MCS

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

Lol because he is pre searing -_-

Kefka

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2005

GoV

Mo/W

How do i capture from the end-mission bosses?

Seth Oriath

Seth Oriath

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Alabama

Guild Of The Adrenaline Vault [AVF] - Guild Leader

R/Me

You mean like Markis? Well, you kill him, then take it of course.

StigTC

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Communist Vikings

Yep, the mission doesn't end until you've killed all the jade armors as well.

Dunhart

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Marquis Alliance

Me/N

When I finished the mission today, two of the jades "transformed" when we attacked Markis, the other two come alive only after he's dead, so there should be enough time to capture it.

TheSmallKing

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

Heroes of the Septemagnus

R/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dunhart
When I finished the mission today, two of the jades "transformed" when we attacked Markis, the other two come alive only after he's dead, so there should be enough time to capture it. Agreed. I did Iron Mines about a week ago. I'd been chasing Barrage since i started playing. We killed Markis, i capped the skill, then we spent about an hour tracking down the last Jades through areas we thought we'd already cleared! So yeah, more than enough time to cap it. i really like it, Favourable Winds - Glyph of Elemental Power - Conjure - Barrage - Barrage - Barrage etc. Great stuff

ktadie

ktadie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grotto dis1

Scars Meadows

R/N

barrage rox in pve, get a halfmoon/shortbow, swap a 5:1 vam string, use tigers fury and barrage on a bunch of mobs..... = ownage

Soul Shaker

Soul Shaker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sunshine Coast, Australia

Soul Crusaders

Anyone found a use for it in PvP? I'm thinking +13 or so damage spammable arrows......

wbaldwin67

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Kansas

Punishers of Stupid Youths

W/E

It dont work that way, when you use Barrage is clears your other skills. So no Tigers fury. It would ROCK if that were the case.

WRHokage

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by wbaldwin67
It dont work that way, when you use Barrage is clears your other skills. So no Tigers fury. It would ROCK if that were the case. Actually, it clears all preperation and skills but not stance. Tiger's fury is a stance so it will work with barrage.

DDSealed

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

This skill sux...an echo+dual shot+ignite arrow>barrage. Because its one arrow per target at all times...even though it sound like if there are no targets around your target, you are gonna shoot 6 arrows to that target.

dargon

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

R/

Barrage isn't intended to hit a single target, it's for clearing out groups of targets. Furthermore, because of it's low initial cost combined with a decent expertise, you've got a spammable +13 dmg attack.

raven claw

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

is this skill worth getting?

raven claw

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

does barrage goes well with judges insight? i mean is it a good combo?

The Pwnographer

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

CLAW

Mo/W

I believe it does work with Judge's Insight. Sort of a holy shotgun.

Orochim4ru

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

mustache riders

barrage + conjure + judge's insight + favorable winds = pvp viable.

Enigmatics

Enigmatics

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Tenafly, NJ

Defenders of Rillanon

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Orochim4ru
barrage + conjure + judge's insight + favorable winds = pvp viable. You must have one of them... whatchamacallit's? Oh yeah, a Ranger/Elementalist/Monk.

You can't have conjure and JI stacked, so Barrage remains a lousy single target skill, and a good crowd controller.

Vampiric Greenhorn

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

the clan of shadows

N/Mo

if you have a zealous bow string this skill can be used to gain energy
even with a lvl 1 zealous it gains 1 energy (assuming you get 6 targets)

Pardoz

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Of course you can have conjure and JI stacked on a Barranger - I've used this combo quite a bit, and it's amazing. The method is left as an exercise for the student.

Enigmatics

Enigmatics

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Tenafly, NJ

Defenders of Rillanon

W/Mo

Oh, right... I think pvp oriented thoughts a lot these days -you can get JI on a ranger by simply having another character cast it on him. Still somewhat lacking for pvp.

Inureface

Inureface

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Asian in Lousiana

The Endbringers

R/Me

So where exactly do you get it then? Does Markis still have it?

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Inureface
So where exactly do you get it then? Does Markis still have it? Markis the main boss from Iron Mines is the only Mob I know of that carries it where its actually capable (Doomtouch or w/e the main boss in pre-searing has it...but no sig of cap there).

EDIT: Just read that "Snyk The Hundred Tongue" in the Abaddon's Mouth mission carries it.

Dont worry too much about the mission ending while your capping - The last enemies you need to beat for mission dont spawn anymore until after Markis is dead.

(to the guy that said Priest of Balt. - You can unlock any skill/weapon/etc at a priest of balt - but thats for a future PvP character - you dont actually get the skill)

Barrage doesn't have the November 10th AoE thing happening with it as has probably been noted already.

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Barrage's bad sides keep it pretty locked up to its own build uses.

The good things:
1) Its a pure ranger's only real AoE attack. Thats an auto + I think..considering its AoE and plus damage.
2) With a Zealous bow this is a very energy friendly skill - you'll lose no net energy or even gain energy for using it. (not that big of a deal considering what Expertise is already doing for you).
3) Its combos made with Conjure (/ele) or Judge's Insight (/mo) make a build that is still used some - the BarrageBot.

Bad:
1) "Adjacent" - "Near by" is so much better in both PvP and PvE. Nothing ever groups that close anymore.
2) Takes Preps off, so that erases its possible uses as an alternate condition spamming device with Apply.
3) I could mention its limit to 6 enemies - but the last thing thats bad about it is just the sheer number of awesome Elites Rangers have as alternatives...

Theres basically just better stuff unless you are going for BarrageBot builds..which really is only good in SOME PvE areas at best...

Inureface

Inureface

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Asian in Lousiana

The Endbringers

R/Me

Just curious, I heard from some of my guildies that there isn't only 1/1 zealous bow strings. Are there any higher strings and if so, could anyone give me a rough estimate of the cost?

Align

Align

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Protectors of Awesome[AWE]

W/

No, there aren't better than 1:1 zealous, but there are vampiric up to 5:1, perhaps they got them confused? If there were 2:1 zealous they'd sell for astronomical prices.

Krazax

Krazax

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Is this Skill worth Capping?

Yes. Get yourself a Horned bow (innate 10% armor penetration), give it a zealous string, a +marksmanship grip, have judges insight cast on you, put marksmanship up to 16 => Goto Town.

Having something to increase your attack rate (Tiger's/Frenzy/etc) and Favorable Winds = Be a barrage terrorist. Huzzah!

It's especially brutal in low/med level areas, brutal as in powerful as all get out. But honestly, unless you max out your marksmanship and that's your play style, it's not as effective as other ranger 'tricks' or builds in the higher level areas. (speaking from experience)

Cap status on Markis in Iron Mines
As of today it still can be capped on Markis in Iron Mines, just make sure you cap it before the last 2 jades die and end the mission.

Fathertimesm

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2005

Here's my prediction (this is prenerfdom of coarse), a group of Ranger/Ritualists. The R/Rt all cast nightmare weapon and then barrage. I don't think it will replace order necros at all, but definitely a big addition to the barrage team. I think that is enough said.