Skills - Signet Of Judgement

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Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

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TheBuster

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Iron Mines of Moladune, "Balt Duskrider"
Talus Chute, "Frostbite" (Shadow Boss)

Gogetter

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2005

Yup ive been looking for this skill.
Thats where i found it a few weeks ago Never got the info together to post here
(Its the shadow boss just as you go into the caves after the Seer Cinematic)(infuse quest)

Fear Is Weekness

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Dragon of Cthulhu

N/Me

This skills is a must have for all smiters. i used it one time and it was love.Worst part is im serious! iv never experienced a move like this u cant ask for better. I LOVE U SIG OF JUDGEMENT

Mercury Angel

Mercury Angel

Avatar of Gwen

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wandering my own road.

The AoE size and damage is decent, and it's free, but as with most signets, the recharge time is killer and renders it only slightly useful.

Current skill icon-

Juicey Shake

Juicey Shake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

CA

in it for the trimmmm

R/

fun to use against warriors melee'ing you in the arenas... signet of judgement, holy strike... yummy.

Old Dood

Old Dood

Middle-Age-Man

Join Date: May 2005

Lansing, Mi

W/Mo

I got this one recently. Nice Spell. Too bad we can't use more then one Elite though. It is hard to give up Word of Healing at this point. My smitting skills are at 11 so it works pretty darn good for me.

Crest

Crest

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

dfw, TX

Fallen Alliance [FA]

R/

use the wand+foci combo to have a chance to ease the recharge time.

TheCrusader

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

Kent,Washington

Dei Victorae [dV]

R/

Where in Talus Chute? Near Rancor or Drok? Can someone post a map?

Old Dood

Old Dood

Middle-Age-Man

Join Date: May 2005

Lansing, Mi

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheCrusader
Where in Talus Chute? Near Rancor or Drok? Can someone post a map? I use this one all the time.

http://guildwars.gameamp.com/game_map/game_map/125.php

Punches DelGado

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2005

Ghostwalkers

R/Mo

Mo/Me's can use the mesmer skill "Mantra of Signets" to allow instant recharge.

audioaxes

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

pretty weak elite if you asked me. ~70 damage with a 30 second cooldown is not very efficient

mm00re

mm00re

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

In a van down by the river :)

After Dark Club [REAL]

W/Mo

but isn't there a mesmer skill that mimics one of your own skills? If so you sould use both in succession, possibly have the mantra of signets and maybe get 3 casts out of it in short order?

Not sure how this would work out but man it sure sounds good.

Jamski

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mantra of Signets and 3 or 4 people using SoJ is a nice cheap trick for altar maps. Kill a whole team in 4 seconds gg.

jrout

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

Gnomish Marine Corps

R/Mo

Gogetter - June 12, 2005 - 7:12 am [ Reply | Edit/Delete ]
Yup ive been looking for this skill.
Thats where i found it a few weeks ago Never got the info together to post here
(Its the shadow boss just as you go into the caves after the Seer Cinematic)(infuse quest)

Actually, it is before the cinematic infusion quest. Right outside the cave.

Gogetter

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2005

Talus Chute is south of Camp Rankor, the boss "Frostbite" is just outside, you cant miss him, might take a few goes to get him to spawn but hes there.

Align

Align

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Protectors of Awesome[AWE]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by mm00re
but isn't there a mesmer skill that mimics one of your own skills? If so you sould use both in succession, possibly have the mantra of signets and maybe get 3 casts out of it in short order?

Not sure how this would work out but man it sure sounds good. You're thinking of Arcane Echo, which only works on spells, and Echo{E}. Oh well. 2 is still better than 1.

TRIvario

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Fortune Cookie [LucK]

Mo/W

arcane mimicry ftw acts as elite of other ally so if your in a group of soj'ers, cast it on eachother and you have 2 Soj's, then combine with mantra of signets and inscriptions and you have 3 uses + 15 sec recharge for siggy

LightningHell

LightningHell

(????????????)???

Join Date: Aug 2005

Hong Kong

Guildless

Mo/

Arcane Mimicry only works on spells.

Mercury Angel

Mercury Angel

Avatar of Gwen

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wandering my own road.

Quote:
Originally Posted by LightningHell
Arcane Mimicry only works on spells.
Untrue, I've copied Incendiary Arrows, Practiced Stance, and 100 Blades with it fairly recently, playing with friends on the Isle of the Nameless.

Edit: Pictures, so that it's not just anecdotal. Arcane Mimicry on the Nameless Isles with Henchmen, along with Echo and Arcane Echo for fun.





Quote:
Originally Posted by Murder In China
Then the Skill description at the offical Guild Wars site is incorrect. Though they've slowly fixed a large number of skills over time, skill descriptions have been known to be inconsistent, inaccurate, to downright misleading at times.

Murder In China

Murder In China

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

/B/Chan

Looking for one

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guild Wars
Arcane Mimicry
Spell. For 20 seconds, Arcane Mimicry becomes the Elite Spell from target other ally. Then the Skill description at the offical Guild Wars site is incorrect.

TRIvario

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Fortune Cookie [LucK]

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by LightningHell
Arcane Mimicry only works on spells. Your thinking of Arcance echo, Im talking about arcane mimicry, a totally different spell


@murcury angel- those skills cost a total of about 45 energy w/o chanelling, so if you have just 2 shots of soj, then a left over recharge of 11 sec, its pretty spammable already.

Sk8tborderx

Sk8tborderx

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

PA

Us Are Not [leet]

W/

With smite at 16 how much damage does this signet do?

Skuld

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

A/

79 damage, there is a chart at http://guildwiki.org/wiki/Signet_of_Judgment

Sk8tborderx

Sk8tborderx

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

PA

Us Are Not [leet]

W/

Wow... Wiki covers everything.

LightningHell

LightningHell

(????????????)???

Join Date: Aug 2005

Hong Kong

Guildless

Mo/

You could have calculated it yourself:

15 + 4(16) = 79.

If you don't know where the 4 comes from:

(63-15)/13 = 4.

TRIvario

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Fortune Cookie [LucK]

Mo/W

there is a way to get 7 shots of SoJ in 20 seconds, but it has a 1 min cool down before you can get a 7 shot spike again, in between cooldown you can only get 3 shots every 20 seconds if I remember correctly.

If you put that into HOH, and have 7 mo/me, well, the last one standing can just get ganked my smite or banish before it rez's, aswell, maybe bring bane signet so you have 3 dmg spikes once you main spike has cooled down.

As for the 7 shots in 20 sec, its not hard to figure out, but you need arcane mimicry and arcane echo with your elite as SoJ.
Hint: mimicry doesnt mimic SoJ, you would use it to mimic your 8th party members elite(not saying what the elite would be

Mercury Angel

Mercury Angel

Avatar of Gwen

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wandering my own road.

Quote:
Originally Posted by TRIvario
there is a way to get 7 shots of SoJ in 20 seconds, but it has a 1 min cool down before you can get a 7 shot spike again, in between cooldown you can only get 3 shots every 20 seconds if I remember correctly.

If you put that into HOH, and have 7 mo/me, well, the last one standing can just get ganked my smite or banish before it rez's, aswell, maybe bring bane signet so you have 3 dmg spikes once you main spike has cooled down.

As for the 7 shots in 20 sec, its not hard to figure out, but you need arcane mimicry and arcane echo with your elite as SoJ.
Hint: mimicry doesnt mimic SoJ, you would use it to mimic your 8th party members elite(not saying what the elite would be Joy, 'secret' builds... Keystone Signet?

TRIvario

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Fortune Cookie [LucK]

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mercury Angel
Joy, 'secret' builds... Keystone Signet? ahhh, I've been foiled again See I told you that it was simple, the 1st keystone recharges the 2nd keystone and vis versa effectively recharging SoJ every 2 seconds, only bad part in the recharge time of mimicry, and you can only shoot once every 4 seconds

Epinephrine

Epinephrine

Master of Beasts

Join Date: Mar 2005

Ottawa, Canada

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Quote:
Originally Posted by TRIvario
ahhh, I've been foiled again See I told you that it was simple, the 1st keystone recharges the 2nd keystone and vis versa effectively recharging SoJ every 2 seconds, only bad part in the recharge time of mimicry, and you can only shoot once every 4 seconds Keystone Signet doesn't recharge Keystone Signet. It's in the description.

TRIvario

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Fortune Cookie [LucK]

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Epinephrine
Keystone Signet doesn't recharge Keystone Signet. It's in the description. I'm pretty sure that it doesnt recharge the keystone activated, but you have 2 keystones, I haven't tested it myself, put it should recharge the 2nd one.
If someone has tested this please show some proof

Mercury Angel

Mercury Angel

Avatar of Gwen

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wandering my own road.

Checked; The description to Keystone Signet was secretly and subtly altered sometime in the past without including it in the update notes. Guru Skill listing updated appropriately now.



Keystone Signet does NOT recharge itself. The [current] description even says as much, just like Oath Shot.

IamI

IamI

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sk8tborderx
Wow... Wiki covers everything. Yet so few people know about it.

On topic: I went through the smiting prayers list and found this signet to be most useful with mantra of inscriptions.

TRIvario

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Fortune Cookie [LucK]

Mo/W

Ok, thanks for testing that mercury, I thought that Anet made a mistake on the wording but I now see that they did not



there is still one more way to get 6.

cast order:

arcane echo
arcane mimicry(keystone)
arcane mimicry(soj)
Soj
Soj
mantra of signets
Keystone
Soj
Soj
Keystone
Soj
Soj