Does anything drop anymore?

Asplode

Asplode

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Chicago, IL

Rebel Rising [rawr]

Ettins, nerfed.
Riverside, nerfed.
Sanctum Cay, nerfed.
Perdition Rock, nerfed.
Elona Reach, nerfed.
Whitman's Folly, nerfed.

I ask again, does anything drop anything anymore? :/

Hells Soldire

Hells Soldire

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

salt flats? arid sea? the place right outside of amnoon oasis?

Asplode

Asplode

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Chicago, IL

Rebel Rising [rawr]

Jade Scarabs, yeah. They're ok, but now they spam chilblains.

Wind

Wind

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/Mo

Oh no, now rare items are actually rare! What will we ever do?!

Silmor

Silmor

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2005

Let's hope the update on Wednesday will introduce some way to prevent having to look for a decent place to farm in order to unlock skills/upgrades, as promised. Wind, rare items force a player to spend more hours into a game doing repetitive work in order to obtain them. That's fine in games like WoW or EQ, GW advertised to be different, so it's not unreasonable to expect them to actually deliver that promise. The 'ofcourse you have to grind for rare items' mindset belongs to people who want to 'win' the game by spending more hours in it than someone else instead of actuall being more skilled.

Wind

Wind

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silmor
Let's hope the update on Wednesday will introduce some way to prevent having to look for a decent place to farm in order to unlock skills/upgrades, as promised. Wind, rare items force a player to spend more hours into a game doing repetitive work in order to obtain them. That's fine in games like WoW or EQ, GW advertised to be different, so it's not unreasonable to expect them to actually deliver that promise. The 'ofcourse you have to grind for rare items' mindset belongs to people who want to 'win' the game by spending more hours in it than someone else instead of actuall being more skilled.
But if rare items are easy to get, then there is no point in them being rare.

LoKi Foxfire

LoKi Foxfire

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

One Corgi Army {OCA}

R/Rt

I have had MORE blue/gold salvages drop now after the patch than it used to before. I think the 'reduced' drops are just physcological paranoia of some people who are striving to find something to complain about. I do wish it were easier to unlock all the runes in the game - like maybe something like the rune trader except that it charges double perhaps? It's a pain in the butt to kill stuff endlessly just to get that one little rune you need to complete your PvP build. :O

Dr Wu

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by LoKi Foxfire
I have had MORE blue/gold salvages drop now after the patch than it used to before. I think the 'reduced' drops are just physcological paranoia of some people who are striving to find something to complain about.
Not true..I've farmed Snake Dance and noticed a significant drop in ANY items, not just rares. Gold drops seem to be the same.
Dr Wu

Ollj

Ollj

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

psychological paranoya

Perishiko ReLLiK

Perishiko ReLLiK

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2005

Divine Guardians of the Soul (Soul)

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hells Soldire
salt flats? arid sea? the place right outside of amnoon oasis?
Arid sea and salt flats both got nerfed, i use to farm there + right outside augury rock, the hydra's... sand drakes drop nothin too, sand giants...

Tuna

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Dark Horizons

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wind
But if rare items are easy to get, then there is no point in them being rare.
Kinda odd for a game without grind don't you think?

eA-Zaku

eA-Zaku

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

The rare items are not that much better than blue items.

InvaderGIR

InvaderGIR

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

From what I've seen, farming in one place over and over again (and solo at that) will make items drop less and less to the point where they won't drop at all. But lo and behold, I was playing with a guildmate today and we didn't have farming in mind. We wanted to go see Greywind for some skills to purchase, but BAM! I got a rare ettin's pauldron and so did he one right after the other. I got a superior rune (yes, I'm the reason the Rune Trader isn't selling that damn thing for 100k now), and he got superior air. Irony is that I'm the aeromancer and he's the warrior. And so, we decided to grab another guildmate and go farming for runes. Result? Nothing.

Conclusion: The programmers at Anet managed to program our computers to be psychic. They read our minds and apply reverse psychology to them. Our computers will then process the items we don't want when we're hunting for them and then give us the items we do want when we're not hunting for them. Anet's too advanced for us. D:

Dumachum

Dumachum

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

na

R/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wind
But if rare items are easy to get, then there is no point in them being rare.

Considering a blue item can have the same damage range and bonuses a purple and gold one can what's the purpose of there being "rare" class items anyway?

They should make "gold" items UNIQUE not just "the same old weapons with a gold colored name". Give them NAMES not just the generic pre/post-fixs all the other items use. And make them stronger and have unique effects and bonuses and make them UNsalvagable.

Keep the blue and purple items as the "build your own" weapons. Make "gold" items actually mean something.

eA-Zaku

eA-Zaku

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Heard gold/purple items have lower requirements sometimes.

Such as max damage gold bows can have req 8-10 instead of 12-13.

Sereng Amaranth

Sereng Amaranth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Amazon Basin [AB]

yes, the gold status lowers requirements

Ensign

Ensign

Just Plain Fluffy

Join Date: Dec 2004

Berkeley, CA

Idiot Savants

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumachum
Considering a blue item can have the same damage range and bonuses a purple and gold one can what's the purpose of there being "rare" class items anyway?
They can't have the same bonuses. For example, looking at the +% damage while health above 50% mod, a blue weapon will have +10% always, purples +11% to +12%, and golds +13% - +15%.

Same goes for upgrades - blues always have the lowest or the next to lowest modifiers, while golds always have the highest percentages on all parts.

As far as base properties, though, being rare has no effect at all on what can and cannot spawn. You can get a max rare bow with an 8 req, and the same max bow with a 13 req.

Peace,
-CxE

Galatea

Galatea

Core Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

The Drifters [DRFT]

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by eA-Zaku
The rare items are not that much better than blue items.
Very true. ^_-
And a lot of the (practically free) collector's items are much better than the items people find.

Edit:

& yes - gold & purple items have lower requirements. Good for when you want your lower-level characters to have a cool item, or when you don't feel like investing all your points and a rune so you can have the 13 attribute requirement.

plus gold and purple are for cosmetic, too. i'd actually be happy if i found a really good white or blue staff and added upgrades to it, as long as it did what i wanted. but if i had a purple or gold one that was exactly the same, it's considered "rarer" and more "special", and i'd want to show it off.

Aaaaagh

Aaaaagh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Asplode
I ask again, does anything drop anything anymore? :/
Nope, nothing drops anything anymore. They removed drops and gold because it was causing a problem with the weather in Florida.

Lalii

Lalii

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Australia

Fight Under No King

N/E

Like others have said, I've had more drops now of all kinds than before. But I never go farming, I just don't see the point. I find it takes all the fun out of things to do things like that.

Lalii

Lalii

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Australia

Fight Under No King

N/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by InvaderGIR
From what I've seen, farming in one place over and over again (and solo at that) will make items drop less and less to the point where they won't drop at all. But lo and behold, I was playing with a guildmate today and we didn't have farming in mind. We wanted to go see Greywind for some skills to purchase, but BAM! I got a rare ettin's pauldron and so did he one right after the other. I got a superior rune (yes, I'm the reason the Rune Trader isn't selling that damn thing for 100k now), and he got superior air. Irony is that I'm the aeromancer and he's the warrior. And so, we decided to grab another guildmate and go farming for runes. Result? Nothing.

Conclusion: The programmers at Anet managed to program our computers to be psychic. They read our minds and apply reverse psychology to them. Our computers will then process the items we don't want when we're hunting for them and then give us the items we do want when we're not hunting for them. Anet's too advanced for us. D:
You rock.

egads

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ensign
They can't have the same bonuses. For example, looking at the +% damage while health above 50% mod, a blue weapon will have +10% always, purples +11% to +12%, and golds +13% - +15%.

Same goes for upgrades - blues always have the lowest or the next to lowest modifiers, while golds always have the highest percentages on all parts.

As far as base properties, though, being rare has no effect at all on what can and cannot spawn. You can get a max rare bow with an 8 req, and the same max bow with a 13 req.
Good to know.

I suppose the exception to this is collector items, before someone says they've seen a perfect blue item.

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

quick question. Does this mean that the drop rate for rare weapons and items (both purple and gold) are now hard to find?

Beoulve

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

:O

None atm

W/Mo

Hah, I was soloing giants today and got a gold salvage, Super vigor.

Yea, thats right.