What exactly is Ascension?

General Bashalot

General Bashalot

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Vancouver BC

Army of Ascension

W/Mo

Sorry for the newbie question but I am still not sure exactly what Ascension means (in game) or how it is attained. And seeing as to my guild is called the Army of Ascension, I guess I should know this - LOL!!!

Holoman

Holoman

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

When you finish the three missions in the desert area(elona reach, thirsty river, dunes of despair)and beaten your mirror-self, you have ascended.

General Bashalot

General Bashalot

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Vancouver BC

Army of Ascension

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Holoman
When you finish the three missions in the desert area(elona reach, thirsty river, dunes of despair)and beaten your mirror-self, you have ascended.
Thank you for your reply. I have never heard of this... I am lvl 20. Where do I get these three missions?

cannonfodder

cannonfodder

Tech Monkeh Mod

Join Date: May 2005

Good Old North East of England

Mo/Me

How far into the story have you got then, Where are at on your map?


The 3 ascension missions, Elona Reach, Dunes of Despair and Thirsty river, are after Amnoon Oasis, you have to speak to 3 ghosts in Augury Rock to be told about the 3 missions, It's puzzling to find out that your Level 20 and not reached this far yet....


EDIT - you complete the 3 misions(Which can be quite tough) and return and fight your mirror image, then you ascend and reach Droknar's forge

General Bashalot

General Bashalot

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Vancouver BC

Army of Ascension

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by cannonfodder
How far into the story have you got then, Where are at on your map?


The 3 ascension missions, Elona Reach, Dunes of Despair and Thirsty river, are after Amnoon Oasis, you have to speak to 3 ghosts in Augury Rock to be told about the 3 missions, It's puzzling to find out that your Level 20 and not reached this far yet....


EDIT - you complete the 3 misions(Which can be quite tough) and return and fight your mirror image, then you ascend and reach Droknar's forge
Well I have just been having fun and not really following the story line. As it stands my quest log is empty but I have returned to Ascalon to get a couple of the initial quests that I abandoned.

I have made it to the Temple of ages and all the zones on the Western part of the map and recently I have been trying (unsuccessuly) to get through to Loranar's Pass and those zones.

I have not made it to the Amnoon Oasis or the related zones. How do I get there?

Nor have I made it to the Ring of Fire Zones... just discouver the aforementioned zones when I found un updated map...

EDIT: I just found this Acsension Guide click here this guide is based on this original post here http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=10658

Prince Daniel

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Uhh have you done any of the missions?! The first one is at the north wall, near Ascalon, you advance into new places by doing missions, the ones on your map that look like shields. The dot on your map thats shining is where your current mission is. By doing the missions you get to amnoon oasis and the ring of fire.

General Bashalot

General Bashalot

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Vancouver BC

Army of Ascension

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Prince Daniel
Uhh have you done any of the missions?! The first one is at the north wall, near Ascalon, you advance into new places by doing missions, the ones on your map that look like shields. The dot on your map thats shining is where your current mission is. By doing the missions you get to amnoon oasis and the ring of fire.
Yes but apparently not some of the critical ones-LOL! I guess I will go back and continue the Northern Wall Quests-when I initially did it back when the game was first released I thought I had done all that had to be done with the Wall mission.

Prince Daniel

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Make sure you are not confusing quests with missions, there is only one mission at each place though there may be many quests.

Eclair

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

If you're already at the temple of the ages, you can go ahead and skip the early missions and try to find the Maguuma jungle ones. There really is only 1 mission you need to do to get to the desert, and that's Sanctum Cay.

Have you found fisherman's haven? Its 1 map west of Temple of the Ages, and one map south of that map. If you're there, just keep going south and u'll come across Sanctum Cay.

funbun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

I forget. Really. I don't know.

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by General Bashalot
Yes but apparently not some of the critical ones-LOL! I guess I will go back and continue the Northern Wall Quests-when I initially did it back when the game was first released I thought I had done all that had to be done with the Wall mission.

Dude, how did you get level 20 without doing the storyline missions? You just running around grinding?

General Bashalot

General Bashalot

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Vancouver BC

Army of Ascension

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by funbun
Dude, how did you get level 20 without doing the storyline missions? You just running around grinding?
No I did missions and quests, I just didn't a few of them because as I progressed my log just became to congested so I abandoned the early ones. I also failed to do the Fort Ranik mission.


Yes I have found Fisherman's Haven... and I have Sanctum Clay. I just didnt do the mission... will now. Thanks!

Silver Spectre

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

England

SteamPowered (SP)

R/Mo

Kinda cool how you can do that without completly the story, I myself am just doing the ascension now. I have done Thirsty river (boy that took some tries and to get a good team) and will go do the other two now!

funbun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

I forget. Really. I don't know.

Mo/

That's why youb should keep all missions and quests. I'm just now completing several quests I had from the begining of the post searing game. You can always go back and do those side quests.

General Bashalot

General Bashalot

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Vancouver BC

Army of Ascension

W/Mo

Aye, I made it to the Oasis and the Rock and have been trying the Dunes missions but without success. I am amazed at how people who have achieved high levels still don't grasp basic group fundamentals: Stay together, have 1 leader, target enemies, and don't rush off alone, follow instructions.

5 missions failed yesterday with 4 different groups including one group who insisted that it wasn't necessary to have a Healer... OMFG!

funbun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

I forget. Really. I don't know.

Mo/

You said it! What's more if the group fail just as you have described many people want to blame the monk for not healing enough. noobs want someone to make up for their n00bage.

I was playing with my lvl 10 Mesmer in PvP a few days ago. Before the mission, I laid down the rules just like you have, General. My team slaughtered the other team. I was lvl 10 fighting against lvl 14. We pwned!

The key is to start your own groups. Then type:

Quote:
Rules:
1. Stay together
2. Follow the leader
3. Target enemies
4. Attack only callled targets
5. Don't rush off alone
6. Follow instructions.
You will always have someone call you bossy or a**. Kick them from your group becuase they don't know how to follow instructiuons.

thaumaturge

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

Mo/Me

Ascension isn't really anything, all it does is provide you with continuation of the story, dragons lair and then onto other parts. Some may argue it provides you with key skills (timing, direction, survival and technique) What would have been good is for it to actually do something like providing a name change. This would also help greatly for pvp, as I'd at least know this person has some experience. Not even the "end" of the game changes anything.

salatious

salatious

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Richmond, Va

Looking for a better Guild

E/Mo

Ascension will provided you the ability to capture eliet skills that you really cant get anywhere else from these bosses...

o and in referense to the person saying they were not level 20 at crystal desert, your rushing through this game way to fast. I cant stand grouping with level 15 people at some of these missions. If your at Crystal desert you should be level 20... I reached level 20 at "The Wild"

Silver Spectre

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

England

SteamPowered (SP)

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by General Bashalot
Aye, I made it to the Oasis and the Rock and have been trying the Dunes missions but without success. I am amazed at how people who have achieved high levels still don't grasp basic group fundamentals: Stay together, have 1 leader, target enemies, and don't rush off alone, follow instructions.

5 missions failed yesterday with 4 different groups including one group who insisted that it wasn't necessary to have a Healer... OMFG!
WOW that is exactly my problem. I am doing one of the missions for the ascension atm, and as you may or may not know, they are hard, but can be done effciently if you work as a team. Every group i've started with i've said, join, but i'm leading, yes, i know the way and how to do it. They all say OK.

10 mins in and they are "no it's this way around" *as they run into a mob of sages and warriors which just kick there ass, 1 man down and the rest being picked off*

I could of lead them around them, and straight to objective, and getting it done but NO. Also i'm fed up with the guys who have no idea about attack radius and just run thinking they won't get spotted when the rest of the team managed to squeeze safly passed.

OO yeh, and another. "Why did you do that!?" ....... reponce (dead of course): "I like to fight"

KK sorry for the rant.

funbun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

I forget. Really. I don't know.

Mo/

And the sad part, Silver, is that these are the people the U.S. Military are recruiting

Weezer_Blue

Weezer_Blue

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Just a Box in a Cage

Hurry Up The Cakes [Oven]

spoiler...


Ascension is when you automatically become level 20 (-30 attribute points) after completing all 3 Ascension Trials and beating your mirror. It's just a stage in the game. After Ascension, you can go back to Destriny's Gorge, Seeker's Passage, and... er.. that other one... and change your secondary profession.

salatious

salatious

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Richmond, Va

Looking for a better Guild

E/Mo

im not finish with this but you lose -30 attribute points by doing this?

if this is the case what benefit do you gain from actually doing it other than changing your secondary proffession? I know you can gain the 30 back but i would much rather just stack the 30 points on to what i have. is that something that can be done? or do i have to do this before i can get access to the extra 30 attribute points?

Silver Spectre

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

England

SteamPowered (SP)

R/Mo

WHAT? you loose 30 attribute points?! Thats like a couple of levels, are you sure. Not sure i want to complete ascension yet now?!

Twizzlebutt

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

I've ascended and I didn't see any loss of attribute points. I'm guessing what he may be refering to is the 30 attribute points (total) you can get from 2 separate quests. 1 can be done pre-acension for 15 attribute points and 1 can be done post-acension for 15 attribute points. If there's more I don't know about it yet, I haven't gotten past the first mission in southern Shiverpeaks.

Digitalblast

Digitalblast

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Calgary AB.

Wanta Fanta [WTF] mo/mes, war/el, nec/ra

E/N

No you dont lose 30 points, you are level 20 but still have 30 more points to gain by doing the attribute point missions.

Lymix

Lymix

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Kansas City

W/R

I believe what the poster was referring to is that you are lvl 20 but short 30 attribute points which can be gained via quests. 2 quests, each one worth 15 points. You do not LOSE any points after ascending

Silver Spectre

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

England

SteamPowered (SP)

R/Mo

phewwww

Not much more to add really.

pegasux

pegasux

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Mexico < PUKE >

Elite Rogues Inc. [ER]

I'm just starting off the Ascension missions now, what attribute quests are there that give you the 15 attribute points? Where are they? Thanks.

funbun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

I forget. Really. I don't know.

Mo/

I think it's in Seeker's passage

Marodac Evilbane

Marodac Evilbane

Site Contributor

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Netherlands

Rite of Passage

E/Mo

You can find one quest "Forgotten Wisdom" south of the big rock that is Augury Rock. You can pick up the other one in Droknars Forge, talk to Sanyi.

Ascension also gives you access to Underworld (UW) and Fissure of Woe (FoW) from Temple of Ages (ToA), when you have favor.

Bastard Son

Bastard Son

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Upstate NY

Bastahd Sons of Zeus

Going back to some points made earlier in this thread regarding how he is level 20 and hasn't reached ascension.... I've been doing the quests as well as all the missions as they come up. I don't farm... to be honest, I don't see the point. So far, I've found all the things I need and haven't had too many problems with having enough money for the things I need (i.e. armor). I've never been run anywhere. Basically, I've been playing through the game like a textbook.

Right now, I am in the Wilds/Quarrel Falls area and am level 18 about 60% to 19. Another player I know is level 19 and in the same area. I don't know how much further away Ascension is, but I can see how he'd be 20 and nowhere near it.