Do you need to trade something for more than 100k? Look here!

MCS

MCS

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

General information & Trusting me:

I've been seeing an increase in items selling for over 100k, some people have been using 100k+ items, if that's how you want to it, go for it. Some people however, don't have the items and don't want to buy them just to trade. Some people don't want to sell them after receiving them, they just want raw gold.

So here it is, I'll be helping people out with these kinds of trades by holding money for them.

This is by far my favorite forum and have no intention of getting banned from it. If you don't trust me then you don't trust me, there is nothing I can do about it.

Now that this thread as a multitude of completed trades that only represent a fraction of the people I've helped trusting me shouldn't be much of a problem anymore.

No one I've helped with one of these trades has ever been scammed in any way shape or form.

How it works:

Lets say trader S has an item and trader B is buying with gold.

Trader S (Seller) is selling a bow for 200k to trader B (Buyer). Trader B will give me 100k and AFTER that I will tell trader S that I have received the money. Trader S will then trade the bow for 100k to trader B. After that is complete and both trader S and trader B tell me I will give the 100k to trader S.

So basically they trade the item for 100k after I receive the difference then I give the difference to the seller.

The seller will only trade the item for the 100k after I tell him that I have received the other money so that the buyer won't lie and tell him that he has already given me the money.

Since I now have 2 accounts I can actually hold up to about 2 mill.

Setting up this type of trade:

When someone wants to perform this type of trade can you both post here with the item and the amount being traded for it as well as a link to the thread where this deal was made and the IGN of both. Another helpful bit of information is a time when you can both be on. If the deal was made on a different site or in game and you just wish to use this service that is fine.

EDIT: It would be preferred if you post in here instead of simply whispering me in game.

Finishing the trade:

When the trade is 100% I'll come back and say so then you can come and leave any kind of feedback you want.

EDIT: You can also go use the trader rating thing and link to this thread for me.


Charging for this service:

None but most people have been tipping 1-2% of the traded ammount.

Contact:

If you've got any questions feel free to PM, IM, or whisper me. My AIM name is Lance4205, my IGN is Master MCS, and well PM is to the left.

EDIT: An additional note, I suggest that when the buyer gives me the money he takes a screen shot, I will be taking screenshots of me giving the money to the seller.

Keep these screenys until after the trade is 100% complete then you can delete them.

Wouldn't want some vengeful member mad that I closed his thread claiming I stole his money.



Added By Nef

Feel free to message me any time that I'm on and MCS isn't available. You can reach me at Nefastaru Bladesong (most days). Just added this in since some new members don't know/trust me

~Nef~

Added by Chief:

I will assist with trades too. Feel free to IM. My AIM name is xSeniorChiefx.

Mimu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

England, UK

Call of Destiny [call]

I just want to say that MCS is definitely trustworthy, I once bought a few items from him which meant using two different trade windows..and he completed it even though he already had the money.

I would be very surprised if he scammed you..so I myself, would not worry about him taking the money.

This is a really good idea, and I may use this service in the future.

alph

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

you are the man MCS. this is a great idea!

MrWho

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Great idea, I suppose if anyone trusts me I can help too :P

_jew

MCS

MCS

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

Don't you know I don't write any of my own material, hell even this sentence was written by my team of trained slave monkeys.

sino-soviet

sino-soviet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Israel before, CA now.

R/Me

Who knows? maybe MCS can start the first virtual escrow agency.

EnDinG

Keyboard + Mouse > Pen

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/W

Sorry to break up the lovefest fellas, but please keep this thread on topic. I'll ask the admins to unlock the level above if you want to strike up a "MCS Is My Love" thread. :P

MCS

MCS

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

If people really start using this more I'll be deleting most of the off topic posts.

Until then however let them love me!

MCS

MCS

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by PK Ghost
so yer a broker now?
i thought we were using unidentified gold salvage items and sigils as currency over 100K...

do we really need brokers since theres no need for x-shard/x-server trading?
Quote:
some people have been using 100k+ items, if that's how you want to it, go for it. Some people however, don't have the items and don't want to buy them just to trade. Some people don't want to sell them after receiving them, they just want raw gold. No one is forcing you to use anything.

Brute

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

I think thats a great idea. If i ever pick up something worth over 100k, you will be the first one to know when i want to trade...

Bloodyblackthorn

Bloodyblackthorn

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Symphony of Darkness [SoD]

W/Mo

Well I still trust u MCS...

MCS

MCS

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

Okay Garric, you attempted to make people not trust me. It didn't work.

Any more posts on the matter I will have to consider trolling.

Here is a link to the thread for anyone who cares to read about how untrustworthy I am.

Thread: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=16032

All other posts about this are being deleted.

wgregory87

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

North Vancouver

TYSN

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by MCS
Okay Garric, you attempted to make people not trust me. It didn't work.

Any more posts on the matter I will have to consider trolling.

Here is a link to the thread for anyone who cares to read about how untrustworthy I am.

Thread: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=16032

All other posts about this are being deleted. Ahaha but Garric is such a noob. Leveling is hard? Don't make me cry.

finfunnels

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Elohim The Mighty Ones

W/Mo

hi Master MCS first of all thx for helping me out
the trade is me IGN: Lunamaria Sahalin with IGN: I badboy I
deal is i paying 400k and my 13% while hp above 50% long sword and unid sup mesmer rune for his perfect 15% while hp above 50 long swordi will let u know as soon as hes ready thx again

MCS

MCS

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by finfunnels
hi Master MCS first of all thx for helping me out
the trade is me IGN: Lunamaria Sahalin with IGN: I badboy I
deal is i paying 400k and my 13% while hp above 50% long sword and unid sup mesmer rune for his perfect 15% while hp above 50 long swordi will let u know as soon as hes ready thx again You'll give me the 400k, once thats done I'll tell him that you've given it to me.

Then you'll trade the superior unided mesmer and the 13% sword for his 15% sword, then I'll give him the 400k

Yes?

EDIT:

All done, just held 450k.

finfunnels

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Elohim The Mighty Ones

W/Mo

new deal based on our agreement
450k in gold + unid mesmer rune + my 13% while hp > 50 long sword for his perfect 15% while hp > 50 long sword

finfunnels

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Elohim The Mighty Ones

W/Mo

done deal nice trade fast and easy MCS is very trust worthy i gave 1k tip

Ketch

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Waterloo

W/Mo

I don't know if anyone else saw this loop hole.
Lets take your example MCS

Trader B gives you 100K gold, and then trader S trades him the item for 100K, then you ask Trader S if he recieved his money, and he says yes,

BUT Trader B says "Nooo, he didn't give me anything, give me back my 100K"
Well... What to do?
Now you have no idea who to believe.
Of course it will be rare, but it's possible, and now that I said it, it will be more possible.

I wanted to bring this to light, because you can prevent this from happening.

Change your policy to be that all items and money must be given to you, then ONLY after receiving everything you will turn all the items and money over to their new owners.
This also takes away the need for asking if the trade happened etc.

MCS

MCS

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

Screenys are good.

If this happened I'd have the Seller go scroll up to where it says they traded and take a screeny then send it to me. Then that nasty buyer would be banned from the site for trying to scam people.

I've advised people to take screenys of everything.

I take screenys of both people agreeing, me giving the gold to the seller, etc....

Ketch

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Waterloo

W/Mo

Very true, but someone who tries to hard could easily fake a screeny.
I just wanted to point that out.

But being able to fake a convincing screeny limits who can do it.. they'd need very specific skills and tools.

MCS

MCS

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

Uh?
What is the buyer going to fake a screeny of, them not trading? The buyer is the scammer here saying they didn't trade when they did then trying to get me to give him the money back. The seller would be taking the screeny.

If people feel more safe giving it all to me then I'll do that but I really see no danger in my way.

What you're describing won't happen. You might as well list someone hacking into my account right after the person gave me the gold which booted me off, he then gives all my gold and items go a guild mate and gets off. I get back on and they start calling me a scammer!

The chance of them making an unnoticable fake is about as good.

Lust Faeriefire

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

SHIN

E/Mo

I'm slightly confused. What's the difference when the trade occurs just between two players, ie: player 1 gives 300k gold + items and player 2 gives uber item.

x-todd

x-todd

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Lemmings of Death

Mo/Me

i guess you can only carry 100k at a time.
i wouldnt know though, as i have never had more than 20k at any given time.

MCS

MCS

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

Anything requiring over 100k gold or over 7 items would have to involve trust because it's the max you can carry for gold and the max you can fit on the trade screen for items.

thesecondrei

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

Alliance of Xen [XoO]

W/R

Yo, MCS, I need help with a 250k trade, my IGN is Patriarch Kain, and the IGN of the other trader is Notorious B I G

MCS

MCS

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by thesecondrei
Yo, MCS, I need help with a 250k trade, my IGN is Patriarch Kain, and the IGN of the other trader is Notorious B I G All done.

thesecondrei

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

Alliance of Xen [XoO]

W/R

Thanks for being moderator MCS, very smooth

Kabale

Kabale

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

UK

Portrayors of Valour [pV]

Yeah, it sucked me in too ^^

EasyS

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Thanks for the trade holmes

Ketch

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Waterloo

W/Mo

Sorry MCS, I wasn't meaning to be hostile.
I love what you're doing, in fact, I will be using your services when I have the need.
I just know, since I do graphics as a hobby, I could easily fake a screeny, and no one would be able to tell the difference. Not even myself if I somehow forgot which was real and which one wasn't.

Anyway, I am glad you're doing this, and I've told some guildies that could have benifited from your services.

Dualinity

Dualinity

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Eternal Flame Brotherhood

N/Me

I was thinking, what if they just do the deal online in GW world??? that should be no problem???

Ketch

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Waterloo

W/Mo

Thats what they are doing....

IndyCC

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Standing United (UNIT)

Why not just give 100k and give the rest of the money value trade in sigils.

Last night I saw sigils at the sigil trader at tombs were going for 60 plat.

So 200k trade means two sigils and 80k. Thus no multiple trades. Person recieveing sigils can hold them, or sell them back to trader to recieve his cash.

I suppose this could even be done with runes. Example I want Sup Vigor and Sup Absorp. So 200k becomes 100k and sup vigor and sup absorp. Thus no multiple trades and no chance at scamming. I would think if they buyer doesnt agree to this he would be a bit loopy or is trying to scam somehow. If seller doesnt agree same thing.

Stabwound

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

The problem is that some people hate to sell items. I know that I definately wouldn't want to trade for sigils, because I can't stand spamming for half an hour to sell them. Time is money, too. The only way this would work is if you based it on the price that the TRADER buys them for.

IndyCC

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Standing United (UNIT)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stabwound
The problem is that some people hate to sell items. I know that I definately wouldn't want to trade for sigils, because I can't stand spamming for half an hour to sell them. Time is money, too. The only way this would work is if you based it on the price that the TRADER buys them for. Right that is what I was suggesting, to just use the sigil trader (since at tombs storage and sigil trader are right next to each other) as a spot rate. Buy two are three or whatever is needed to buy the item use that price as the included price then have the seller sell them back. Price fluctuation if all done timely would be negligible. No time value of money lost.

Ketch

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Waterloo

W/Mo

Utilizing MCS is easier, but if he wasn't around, that would be an alternate plan.

bee65n

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Hey Master MCS was wondering if I could use the service. Deal is, my Chaos Axe w/ 14%dmg+ while enchanted, 3:1 Axe vamp hilt, and a 30 life axe grip for another guy's 270k.

MCS

MCS

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

Contact me in game sometime when he is on.