My staff gives me 20% chance of faster casting and 20% chance of faster skill recharge and +41 hp.
Whats wrong with it? is there much better items around?
Collector's items
BaleFire
Lots of people apparently look down on collector items - why?
My staff gives me 20% chance of faster casting and 20% chance of faster skill recharge and +41 hp.
Whats wrong with it? is there much better items around?
My staff gives me 20% chance of faster casting and 20% chance of faster skill recharge and +41 hp.
Whats wrong with it? is there much better items around?
Moskel
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Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude it isn't a Shadow Staff, the Shadow Staff looks sooooooooo coool!! Its all about looks man!! Who cares what the staff does my staff looks better!!!
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The same reason people buy the 15k armor or spend days collecting the components for the 15k armor in the fissure or underworld. Its all about looks, personally my perfect collector staff looks a lot better in my hands while I stand over the dead body of somebody else with an almost perfect Shadow Staff they paid 50k for.
Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude it isn't a Shadow Staff, the Shadow Staff looks sooooooooo coool!! Its all about looks man!! Who cares what the staff does my staff looks better!!!
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The same reason people buy the 15k armor or spend days collecting the components for the 15k armor in the fissure or underworld. Its all about looks, personally my perfect collector staff looks a lot better in my hands while I stand over the dead body of somebody else with an almost perfect Shadow Staff they paid 50k for.
SereneD
The problem I have noticed with collectors items is: They can not be salvaged.
If you put that awesome rune or component on a collectors item, then there is no way that you can remove the item by salvaging it so you can put it on something else that you acquire later. At least this is what I have noticed. I could be wrong or bugged.
If you put that awesome rune or component on a collectors item, then there is no way that you can remove the item by salvaging it so you can put it on something else that you acquire later. At least this is what I have noticed. I could be wrong or bugged.
Uzul
they made the collector items a lil better during one of the last updates... i don't mind people looking down on them - it's fun to hunt for the items and get pretty nice items for it (mostly the value is higher than 5 of the items for it so even gold-diggers should like them). still: lots of people don't know about them or just don't ever get into the mood to pile 5 items and go back to get the reward.
what i dislike is people who are selling those for several plat - some even try to tell you they are mod/salvagable (what they DONT are, for anyone who wants to know). a fair price may okay but some people just go nuts ^^
there is nothing with higher chances than 20% and random items (dropped ones) mostly don't reach the 20... but if they do: booyaaah!
another fact: for a roleplayer like me the colour indicates how strong the magic on that item is - and golden beats purple which beats blue: i just love to use rare items... and i can't imagine who does not enjoy golden equiqment. ^^
edit: some collector items have a very nice look - i had a nice smiting rod once that looked like a strange firewand.
what i dislike is people who are selling those for several plat - some even try to tell you they are mod/salvagable (what they DONT are, for anyone who wants to know). a fair price may okay but some people just go nuts ^^
there is nothing with higher chances than 20% and random items (dropped ones) mostly don't reach the 20... but if they do: booyaaah!
another fact: for a roleplayer like me the colour indicates how strong the magic on that item is - and golden beats purple which beats blue: i just love to use rare items... and i can't imagine who does not enjoy golden equiqment. ^^
edit: some collector items have a very nice look - i had a nice smiting rod once that looked like a strange firewand.
Than
Well its hard to beat a +10 mana wand imho. Havn't seen any wand of the collectors that can beat that. Or any staff, if it one could it couldn't beat that plus of the +10 mana from my offhand item.
Kha
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Assured that armor provided by collectors can now be salvaged.
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Moskel
If the item has "perfect" (i.e. 20% casting bonuses [for staff/wand/focus] or 15% damage bonus [for weapon/bow]) why would you want to salvage the component back out? Its not like you're going to find a better item.
There are some items available that may be "better" than the collector stuff depending on what you're trying to do. As an example for a pure warrior weapons exist that have a +15% Damage (no condition) -5 energy set of buffs on them. Some may argue that buff is superior to +15% Damage (while health > 50%) but thats debatable to me.
There are some items available that may be "better" than the collector stuff depending on what you're trying to do. As an example for a pure warrior weapons exist that have a +15% Damage (no condition) -5 energy set of buffs on them. Some may argue that buff is superior to +15% Damage (while health > 50%) but thats debatable to me.
Ninna
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The problem I have noticed with collectors items is: They can not be salvaged.
If you put that awesome rune or component on a collectors item, then there is no way that you can remove the item by salvaging it so you can put it on something else that you acquire later. |
from 06/01 patch
http://www.guildwars.com/news/gameupdates.html
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Tyil Thunder Arrow
I see nothing wrong with them
I have
Vampiric ascolon bow of fortitude
maxed stats on bow and components nothing better out there
got it cheap
now if i find that perfect short or halfmoon bow i can take someone for there money it's not shiny but man does it kill good
I have
Vampiric ascolon bow of fortitude
maxed stats on bow and components nothing better out there
got it cheap
now if i find that perfect short or halfmoon bow i can take someone for there money it's not shiny but man does it kill good
Darkest Dawn
I never used to go for too many collector things except the hammer by the Kryta Ambassador in post searing Ascelon, Until seeing two collectors in Kryta selling 71 rated armor, which was tops until you got to Augury Rock.
LoneDust
In addition to appearance appeal to players, the general public also seems to like gold items and look down on blue items (even when they have perfect stats).
Give the players some time, they'll soon learn that colours can be decieving.
Give the players some time, they'll soon learn that colours can be decieving.
Deathlord
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trackxyj
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I see nothing wrong with them
I have Vampiric ascolon bow of fortitude maxed stats on bow and components nothing better out there got it cheap now if i find that perfect short or halfmoon bow i can take someone for there money it's not shiny but man does it kill good |
There are things I haven't found yet. Where is the collector giving 12 energy 20/20 offhand on smite? where is the single hand healing rod?
Eclair
Aparently, ascalon bow is not a bow type, but a bow appearance. There's 2 identical ascalon bows in mineral springs, but one has the range and firing rate of a short bow, while the other has that of a longbow (I think).
BaleFire
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The problem I have noticed with collectors items is: They can not be salvaged.
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its the same problem with quest revard items, dont know why but its stupid.
some low damage items have nice mods..
Angels Touch
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i have had this problem before with armor, lost a rune and it really pissed me off.
its the same problem with quest revard items, dont know why but its stupid. some low damage items have nice mods.. |
I am about 90% sure you can salvage a quest weapon. I had one that I tried salvaging as it had nice mods, but it would not, so I customized it to use. I then later found a perfect Axe that had the same mod, so I was going to sell the quest axe, but tried to salvage it first. Guess what I got the haft off of it.
There was a few days in-between the time I got it and the time I customized / salvaged it, that is why I cannot say with 100% certainty that I was able to. I will be trying this though with the next quest item I get.
Syno
I think it all stems from the "If you didn't pay 75k for it, it ain't worth it" mentality. I have found some impressive idols from Collectors at +10 energy, while gold looted idols in the same area are at about +8 energy. I look at numbers, not names, looks, and whatnot.
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Phaedrus
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Lots of people apparently look down on collector items - why?
My staff gives me 20% chance of faster casting and 20% chance of faster skill recharge and +41 hp. Whats wrong with it? is there much better items around? |
For instance: a fire elem who uses glyphs has to choose between a staff with 20/20 fire recharge/fire casting bonus -or- a staff with 10/20 generic recharge/fire casting on it. Which is more useful to him?
It comes down to playing style. If you only use one type of ability, then caster collectors' items are nice for you. If you don't, they're not so hot.
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Akshara
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Personally, I don't like the Collector's items because it takes so long to find the items and then the Collectors themselves that go with those items. In pre-sear it was ok because one could do most of the quests solo and get all the drops, but in post-sear it can take a really long time to find all of the items required.
The other issue is that many of these collectors are found along quests or missions... ever try to stop and talk with a collector while questing with a PuG? Yeah right, give me a break... I'm lucky to have enough time to just pick up dropped items, let alone do a trade with a collector that's off the beaten path. I've not once been in a PuG that actually stopped or diverted for a collector, even when asked.
After that last patch, with all the drop problems going on when running solo or with henchmen, I lost interest in running through zones trying to find collector's items and looking for the collectors themselves. Now that those problems have been supposedly fixed, maybe I'll give it another try at some point.
unclepodger
So can anyone PLEASE PLEASE authoritatively confirm whether or not compnents you put into COLLECTOR weapons can be salvaged back out or not. I have been asking around in game but always get conflicting answers. I know the update mentions collectors armours, but nothing is said about colelctor weapons. So if anyone here can give a definitive answer, it would be much appreciated.
ManadartheHealer
Test it yourself 
Get a very cheap upgrade, put it in a cheap Collector weapon, then try to salvage it out. If it can't salvage out, you exchanged <200g for that knowledge
Get a very cheap upgrade, put it in a cheap Collector weapon, then try to salvage it out. If it can't salvage out, you exchanged <200g for that knowledge
unclepodger
Ok I have tried it, and the result is:
*Drum Roll*
It is NOT possible to salvage components out of collector weapons.
On a side note, does anyone want to buy a (Collectors) Longsword of Enchanting? :P
15-22dmg +15%dmg when enchanted
Enchantments last 10% longer
*Drum Roll*
It is NOT possible to salvage components out of collector weapons.
On a side note, does anyone want to buy a (Collectors) Longsword of Enchanting? :P
15-22dmg +15%dmg when enchanted
Enchantments last 10% longer
ManadartheHealer
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Ok I have tried it, and the result is:
*Drum Roll* It is NOT possible to salvage components out of collector weapons. On a side note, does anyone want to buy a (Collectors) Longsword of Enchanting? :P 15-22dmg +15%dmg when enchanted Enchantments last 10% longer |
unclepodger
Sigh, the sacrifices I make in the name of science 
dansamy
If it doesn't havae any reqs, sell it in Ascalon to a neophyte for ~250g.
Da Cebuano
Thing is, who would wanna salvage a perfect weapon 12/20/20? That logic is fallably stupid. Perfect collector's weapons will help out starters who don't wanna have to shell out 50-100plats just to do great. It gives them the same performance for 10X cheaper, yet they all like LoL Collectors... Anyway, just to point, most of these guys are just morons and only demean a great item simply cause it doesn't have that GOLD LETTERING that they can brag to their online friends .
Also, you can salvage collector's armors but not quest given weapons and collector's weapons.
Also, you can salvage collector's armors but not quest given weapons and collector's weapons.
Dirt Merchent
Is there a collecter who gives max dmg longswords. Not the black ones. The shiny ones.
unclepodger
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Thing is, who would wanna salvage a perfect weapon 12/20/20? That logic is fallably stupid. Perfect collector's weapons will help out starters who don't wanna have to shell out 50-100plats just to do great. It gives them the same performance for 10X cheaper, yet they all like LoL Collectors... Anyway, just to point, most of these guys are just morons and only demean a great item simply cause it doesn't have that GOLD LETTERING that they can brag to their online friends
Also, you can salvage collector's armors but not quest given weapons and collector's weapons. |
The thing is, there are no collector weapons which give +dmg when hp>50%, which is considered by some to be the most desirable mod on a weapon. Therefore, while waiting till you get enough money to buy your dream weapon, deciding whether or not to put that +29hp hilt or grip on the collectors weapon might become an issue.
GW Monkey
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Is there a collecter who gives max dmg longswords. Not the black ones. The shiny ones.
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If someone cares about what their armor or weapon looks like, then use an inferior -=GOLD=- RARE OMGOMG!!!111 you bought in LA for the amount of your entire savings. Personally, if I could get an Ascalon Plastic Butterknife +15% >50% 22-29 from a collector... I'd be stabbing with it. It's all about stats not looks. Graphics are eye candy. You can enhance a good game with them, but you can't prop up a bad one. Well maybe you can... but only if you make the female toon's breasts jiggle when she moves.I do keep drops on occasion. On those incredibly rare times something unique and with complementary bumps that, in certain instances, are better than a collector item, I keep it. It's a trophy. However I'd much prefer selling it to one of the image-obsessed: Perfect Gold Flellblade, pre-dyed black, matches your fissure armor perfectly, incl. your choice of hilt/pommel, c/o 122K!! WHISPER BID!!
(You want to create an economy where none exists? I WILL HELP YOU.)
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The thing is, there are no collector weapons which give +dmg when hp>50%
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Dirt Merchent
The reason i asked is not for looks its cause i have alot of collecters weapons including the black longsword. Its something i do when im bored is collect stuff from collecters who cares about looks not me. I would use a purple 2 by 4 if they had it in there and it was a good stats.
KaPe
"If someone cares about what their armor or weapon looks like, then use an inferior -=GOLD=- RARE OMGOMG!!!111"
!111ONE... So what if I care about looks of my avatar? How does this make me inferior to you? Unless there is some big difference in effectivness, I, myself, prefer looks. Not enough to pay ridicilous amount of gold for it, but enough to keep slightly worse weapon/armor if it looks better than new one.
!111ONE... So what if I care about looks of my avatar? How does this make me inferior to you? Unless there is some big difference in effectivness, I, myself, prefer looks. Not enough to pay ridicilous amount of gold for it, but enough to keep slightly worse weapon/armor if it looks better than new one.
unclepodger
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Uhm, haven't you read the posts before yours? You are making a prime example of why... ah, nevermind.
If someone cares about what their armor or weapon looks like, then use an inferior -=GOLD=- RARE OMGOMG!!!111 you bought in LA for the amount of your entire savings. Personally, if I could get an Ascalon Plastic Butterknife +15% >50% 22-29 from a collector... I'd be stabbing with it. It's all about stats not looks. Graphics are eye candy. You can enhance a good game with them, but you can't prop up a bad one. Well maybe you can... but only if you make the female toon's breasts jiggle when she moves.I do keep drops on occasion. On those incredibly rare times something unique and with complementary bumps that, in certain instances, are better than a collector item, I keep it. It's a trophy. However I'd much prefer selling it to one of the image-obsessed: Perfect Gold Flellblade, pre-dyed black, matches your fissure armor perfectly, incl. your choice of hilt/pommel, c/o 122K!! WHISPER BID!! (You want to create an economy where none exists? I WILL HELP YOU.) Incorrect. |
GW Monkey
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So if you have somehow bettered the 10+ people in the collector location thread and found a collector who gives max dmg +15%dmg when hp>50%, why don't you post a screenie?
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I've never looked for swords because I rarely run my W with swordsmanship, but of the many collectors that trade max damage longswords I'm willing to bet one of them is the >50% qualification one. (since you can't see the bump w/o getting it, we need to get everyone to start participating in the "collector locations" thread.)
unclepodger
^^ Ooh nice find nice find...I hope someone finds the sword and/or axe one soon >.<
Dirt Merchent
i know the collecter outside the dunes ascention mission gives max dmg sword but forgot what he wants.
unclepodger
that guy gives +dmg in stance i believe
StrongBow
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that guy gives +dmg in stance i believe
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Its 15-22 dmg (req.9 Swordsmanship) Damage +15% (While enchanted)! It's similar or identic to "Rin Blade" (ugliest sword ever).
Dirt Merchent
The other longsword is the black one i would like to know if there is a collecter that gives the longsword thats not the black one or the rinblade looking one.