Definition of "Attack"

Xelorz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

When a skill talks about an "attack" what exactly does that mean? For example in guardian you have a certain percentage chance of blocking an attack or projectile. Also in empathy when an enemy "attacks" they take damage.

dargon

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

R/

Strikes at you with a weapon would be the definition I would use. Using a wand/staff/truncheon/etc would also count.

IceD'Bear

IceD'Bear

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

Awoken Myth [MYTH]

Mo/

Attacks are basic attacks (like swinging your sword, shooting with the bow etc) and all skills that have Attack in their type (like Power Attack, Sewer Artery etc).
Projectiles are mentioned extra in the description of Guardian, as it blocks magical projectiles too (like Lightning Orb etc).

Skrilling

Skrilling

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

USA

Yeah i have a few skills that say "attack or use skill" so that means that weapons and "skills" are separate. Skill of course being spells, but maybe things like final thrust, executioners strike and so on as well, not that it mattered with my particular skill.

Xelorz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by IceD'Bear
Projectiles are mentioned extra in the description of Guardian, as it blocks magical projectiles too (like Lightning Orb etc).
In the same respect would it block chain lightning or obsidian flame? (Those are just 2 random elementalist skills)

Dazzler

Dazzler

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

E/Me

Those 2 are not projectiles. They just magically cause damage, whereas lightning orb produces a projectile that flies and does damage if it hits (hint: you can actually sidestep it if you see it coming). That's one reason I prefer the chain lightning to the orb, even when I will only dmg one foe with it.

Zenny

Zenny

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Moa Birds [MB]

Mo/N

Ya, I like to think a projectile as just something that travels over time between yourself and the target.

So nothing instant, no firestorm, etc.

Bingley Joe

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Philosophers of Denravi

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenny
Ya, I like to think a projectile as just something that travels over time between yourself and the target.

So nothing instant, no firestorm, etc.
Ok, I can see that. But doesn't it also seem logical that some spells would also qualify as attacks?

Take Conjure Phantasm, for example -- as far as I can tell, there's no other reason to cast this spell unless you want to attack your foe. Sure, it does direct damage ignoring armour, etc. and is not a projectile, but all it does is attack (vs., for example, an attack that drains health but also returns energy to the caster).

As another example, I'm a R/Me, so I've got Lightning Reflexes and Distortion as defensive skills. LR states clearly that it helps you get away from [evade/block, I'm not sure what the difference is; the outcome appears to be the same] melee and projectile attacks, while Distortion merely says "attacks".

There's no question about whether LR can help you get away from spell attacks - it can't - but my impression from playing with the skill is that Distortion can. I think I can "evade" better with Distortion than with Lightning Reflexes. This would seem to indicate that at least some spells do qualify as attacks.

Anyone know for sure?