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βlitzkrieg

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

New Zealand

The Obsidian Kings

Me/N

15 Jun 2005 at 07:16 - 1

I've been playing since release (and before), so I haven't been around pre-searing for awhile. However, the other day I got bored so decided to try out a new Mesmer. I was on the mission that sets you from Barradins Estate to Fort Ranik, and because this is a large journey, I decided to stop into Ashford Abbey and get someone to go with.

So, I pop in, and say "Looking for someone travelling to Fort Ranik".

I then get 5 PM's saying "How much will you pay?"

At first I was like "Huh?" and got replies saying "How much will you pay for a taxi to Ranik, n00b."

I replied to them saying "Umm, I don't want a 'taxi', but rather a campanion." and got no further replies.

I tried a new message "Looking for a companion travelling to Fort Ranik - Not a taxi" and noone replied. I ended up going through two districts before getting bored and going off on my own.

Taxis? Is this crazy - you can't even get a travelling compnaion these days without paying?

GW has gone down hill since release

ManadartheHealer

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Awaiting GW2

W/

15 Jun 2005 at 07:18 - 2

People do stuff like that post searing as well...only they advertise by spamming the channel. The sad thing is, one must realize, they only exist because people do pay for these "taxis"

Divinus

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Mississippi

15 Jun 2005 at 07:25 - 3

People will spam that all the time in Beacon's Perch because people want to get to Droknar's Forge so bad.

I always thought things like this were a scam.

Arri

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

A/W

15 Jun 2005 at 07:25 - 4

Yeah, people are just getting dumber and dumber untill they relise that doing this will make them end up with 0 groups.

Adraeus

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

LLJK

R/Mo

15 Jun 2005 at 07:29 - 5

Why do you need a companion to get to Fort Ranik? You can run the whole way without doing battle as a Warrior. Elementalists have a fairly easy time killing everything on the way. Lonely? Tame a pet.

King of Fools

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

south korea

Angels of Anarchy

W/R

15 Jun 2005 at 08:22 - 6

don't see that as much on euro server. just need a longer ignore list.

Lalii

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Australia

Fight Under No King

N/E

15 Jun 2005 at 08:27 - 7

I thik I've been lucky for the most part stumbling on people who actually just wanted to play without trying to get money out of it. Normally I end up giving them any items I get which I can't use anyway if they're fun to play with.

I just didn't know that people actually did pay for 'taxi's', where's the fun in that?

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

15 Jun 2005 at 08:27 - 8

What's happened in Pre-Searing is that a *lot* of veterans have secondary characters there which they use to scam noobs. Taxi services, "WTB black dye", selling armor and customized weapons etc.

People who prey on noobs don't tend to be particularly nice.

DrSLUGFly

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

European Server or International

15 Jun 2005 at 08:28 - 9

my pet's conversational skills suck in a very serious way. Just last night, we were trying to run the D'Allessio mission and my moa bird was like:
"you slug, that's the wrong way for the bonus!"
so I was like:
"No I'm tellin you man, it's right here."
then the moa bird was all like, "That's it, I've had it you friggin noob! I'm goin"

and he dropped. My own pet dropped at near the end of the mission and left me alone... bloody hell...

Heron Fensbanel

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Here and there.

R/Mo

15 Jun 2005 at 08:31 - 10

Henchmen are looking better and better with each passing day.

I'm glad I have Beast Mastery.

Lord Malikai

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Colorado

Imperial Fist Guild Leader

W/E

15 Jun 2005 at 08:36 - 11

I logged on today in Hells Precipice and saw Monks on chat offering there services for 1000 gold and more. That's ridiculous, really. My wife and I completed the mission with henchmen, you don't need to pay an arrogant monk money to do any mission. If there's no monks or other party members willing to do the mission for the mere price of generosity, then grab a henchman and give it a whirl. They don't expect payment, don't bitch and complain about which direction you go and never say a word if they die.

I've seen monks in FoW and UW saying they can be hired for 10,000 gold. It just simply amazes me. Thank God I'm in a guild that can handle our own and don't have to deal with these asshats.

Some people just don't realize that monks are part of the group and not "the group". A lot of the times you can handle things with 1 monk if you're group is set up right. Protections, wards, blind, hexes, enchantments... all help more than people realize.

Ya ain't all the monkeys. Deflate your heads a bit and come back down from that cloud your riding on.

Terminal

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Vocal Minority, R.I.P.

Mo/Me

15 Jun 2005 at 08:52 - 12

Too few people with level heads.

Gaming by it's very nature attracts the self-gratifying at all costs crowd. No escaping it.

People yelling away in a perpetuating fit of idiocy in spatial chat when the trade chat is specifically for that. So much so that in a town like LA or Ascalon it's impossible to have a decent conversation unless youre in a group with spatial turned off.

People offering their services to 'run' your character for an XYZ amount of money. When anyone who plays 4-6 hrs a day can get to ascention in a week by playing casually quite easily.

Getting spammed in whispers: "Will u join my guild?" just because i'm not in one. I mean, what retards. Don't they know how moronic they come across ?

Too few of the people out there like to just hang out and help when they can.

On the topic of monks, it bites both ways, that's even sadder.

When I was on my first character, a Mesmer, I had the most terrible time just finding groups. People would rather pick someone who badly played another class over someone who knew his inside out.Even in the desert and the jungles, where the abundence of spam-casting aggros would make any sane gamer wish for a mesmer with 120+ backfire, takers were few and far between. Got the Mes ascended somehow and then got stuck at Dragon's Lair.

Decided to start a Monk and got him to level 20 so I could at least help people if i couldnt get much further in the game myself. Now I have people telling me that i am a "n00ber" because I don't farm with smiting but just stay with pure healing/elem earth protection. The people who i run quests with and heal.

Everyone isnt an idiot. I've met groups of fine fine folk. Fun to adventure with, wise to learn from and receptive to be taught as far as the subtleties of the game we play goes.

Wish there were more of the same sometimes.

Caco-Cola

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

College Station, TX

Kansas City Hotsteppers. Hawt!

15 Jun 2005 at 10:21 - 13

I was in Fort Ranik Post-Searing yesterday playing with my Mo/R and trying to find a group.

I see a guy on All advertising 'will escort you through any mission in under 10 minutes for 1k!"

So I thought, man, what a deal.

I told him to meet me in District 1 of Hells Principe to get my other character through and he never responded

Oh well, I've already beaten the game anyways.

liuzg

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

W/N

15 Jun 2005 at 10:30 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Malikai

Some people just don't realize that monks are part of the group and not "the group". A lot of the times you can handle things with 1 monk if you're group is set up right. Protections, wards, blind, hexes, enchantments... all help more than people realize.

Heh,I complete the second last mission with a warrior-only group(plus two henchmen), all it takes is brain-storming and coordination~~~

Storn

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

15 Jun 2005 at 12:36 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Malikai

I logged on today in Hells Precipice and saw Monks on chat offering there services for 1000 gold and more. That's ridiculous, really. My wife and I completed the mission with henchmen, you don't need to pay an arrogant monk money to do any mission. If there's no monks or other party members willing to do the mission for the mere price of generosity, then grab a henchman and give it a whirl. They don't expect payment, don't bitch and complain about which direction you go and never say a word if they die.

I've seen monks in FoW and UW saying they can be hired for 10,000 gold. It just simply amazes me. Thank God I'm in a guild that can handle our own and don't have to deal with these asshats.

Some people just don't realize that monks are part of the group and not "the group". A lot of the times you can handle things with 1 monk if you're group is set up right. Protections, wards, blind, hexes, enchantments... all help more than people realize.

Ya ain't all the monkeys. Deflate your heads a bit and come back down from that cloud your riding on.

I refuse to ever charge for my monk's service.

After all, isn't it role playing... and are not monks supposed to be enlightened? Not Mercs? grin.

But seriously, I will never charge for any of my character's services. Ii think that is simply heinous.

Bu7ch

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

Cincinnati

Governors of Destruction [GOD]

R/

15 Jun 2005 at 13:59 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Storn

I refuse to ever charge for my monk's service.

After all, isn't it role playing... and are not monks supposed to be enlightened? Not Mercs? grin.

But seriously, I will never charge for any of my character's services. Ii think that is simply heinous.

Agreed...In Hell's Precipice I saw a monk charging 20k! My second character is a healing monk and I don't charge (tips are nice though

)

Titus_Nefarius

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

15 Jun 2005 at 14:18 - 17

Lately a lot of groups, even in the Shiverpeak missions, have been insisting on taking at least one (preferably two) primary monks and warriors with them, even to the point of not wanting to enter the mission before these conditions are met.
This usually seems to be a good indicator of the skill level of the persons in question, only being able to adapt to external influences by keeping internal influences as rigid as possible. Funnily enough most of these groups tend to fail miserably due to Wamo-Rushing syndrome and Religion-induced delusions of superiority.

After getting into one of these groups a few days ago, and having at least 3 deaths at the first encounter, warriors running off while everyone was recuperating, and monks blaming everyone but themselves, I quit after another 3 deaths at the second bend, and invited the first five people LFG. This turned out to be all primary Elementalists, Mesmers and Necro's, with no Warrior or Monk secondary but myself (El/Mo). After laughing a bit about our "Squishy party", we slowly and methodically started the mission, and lost no-one at the first encounter (Minotaur charge). From there on we proceeded to end kicking ass and taking names in 3 missions and quests inbetween. Best group I ever had.

So if people kick you from group because you're no monk or warrior, be glad they did, and form your own group. You'll be laughing after they'll arrive a few hours and a few plat later after having to resort to taxi services.

Ketendra

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

New York

JackKnife Brigade

E/Mo

15 Jun 2005 at 15:37 - 18

well the advantage is, when I get my monk leveled just a little bit more, I wont have a problem finding a group..since I will not charge for services (but I will admit that if someone offers to pay I wont turn em down as long as I am going that direction anyway, just wont ask, lol)

Padre

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Dragon Eye

Mo/W

15 Jun 2005 at 15:41 - 19

Yeah, it's easy to find a group as a monk if you don't charge, even if you're protection

Claymore

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Kingston, Ontario, Canada

A/W

15 Jun 2005 at 15:51 - 20

Ok I hate to ask this because I'm not exactley a noob, BUT, from Beacons Pearch where is Droknar's Forge? Oh and I am NOT looking for a taxi (teehee) Just a direction or a companion for travleing. Playing a Fire elemental/Monk, more fire than monk, but I have rez and some minor healing.

Padre

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Dragon Eye

Mo/W

15 Jun 2005 at 15:59 - 21

beakan's pearch is where you end up after the second mission in the northern shiverpeaks, and droknar's forge is an area quite a bit south of that that has the best armor stats in the game for the least money - anything more expensive is just for show

Claymore

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Kingston, Ontario, Canada

A/W

15 Jun 2005 at 16:01 - 22

So as long as I head south I will find Droknar's Forge ? South from Beacon's Pearch I mean.

Hell Marauder

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

15 Jun 2005 at 16:07 - 23

I say, promise those idiots 1000 gold and demand to get there in less than one minute, pay them upon timely arrival. After all, they are taxis aren't they?

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

15 Jun 2005 at 16:18 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManadartheHealer

People do stuff like that post searing as well...only they advertise by spamming the channel. The sad thing is, one must realize, they only exist because people do pay for these "taxis"

they only exist because ArenaNet has nerfed any other way to make money quickly....people will innevitably find other ways to farm...only now they're farming other players rather than mobs.

wizorack

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

South Carolina

Whiz Kids

R/Mo

15 Jun 2005 at 16:49 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Algren Cole

they only exist because ArenaNet has nerfed any other way to make money quickly....people will innevitably find other ways to farm...only now they're farming other players rather than mobs.

Whats all this money for? And where are these farms? Only farms I have seen in the game was in pre-searing and was no money there that I saw, just worms and seeds!

I have yet to buy an item from another player, or sell for that matter. I always have enough money for armor I want to buy, and a good enough weapon for my char's level and its.. Fun..

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

15 Jun 2005 at 16:52 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by wizorack

Whats all this money for? And where are these farms? Only farms I have seen in the game was in pre-searing and was no money there that I saw, just worms and seeds!

the first 123817239712893 people to say that were funny.....you're not

Dragonkin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Infront of my pc, UK.

Dragon Guard Alliance

R/Mo

15 Jun 2005 at 16:57 - 27

I've never experienced this but i've noticed theres alot more childish people pre-searing, all running around offereing "Bj's for 10gold" and acting the fool.

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

15 Jun 2005 at 16:58 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragonkin

I've never experienced this but i've noticed theres alot more childish people pre-searing, all running around offereing "Bj's for 10gold" and acting the fool.

roflmao...I have noticed that some of the female characters offer to take their clothes off for gold. I find it disturbingly humerous

wizorack

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

South Carolina

Whiz Kids

R/Mo

15 Jun 2005 at 16:59 - 29

Haha... Just answer the question.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Algren Cole

the first 123817239712893 people to say that were funny.....you're not

Cap'n Hoek

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Sunny California

Ancient Avatars

15 Jun 2005 at 17:02 - 30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Algren Cole

ArenaNet has nerfed any other way to make money quickly

BUT THIS IS BRAND NEW INFORMATION!!

...isn't it?

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

15 Jun 2005 at 17:04 - 31

Quote:

Originally Posted by wizorack

Haha... Just answer the question.

I don't farm....I've never had a need to. But the patch that killed it also killed any decent drops. I haven't gotten anything worth picking up, other than materials, since the patch. I don't play as often as others do, probably an hour or so a day(if I'm lucky), but I have a Purple Vampiric Bow, a Purple Ascalon Bow, and a Purple Ebon Brute Sword....all that I managed to get in drops before the patch....since the patch I haven't bothered to pick up a damn thing.....I don't mind if they implement a 'nerf' to farming without killing the drops...like I said I don't farm.

Claymore

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Kingston, Ontario, Canada

A/W

15 Jun 2005 at 17:29 - 32

I have to say that since the patch I have actually got More drops, not just in quanitity, but quality as well. I unlocked a major rune of earth outside Yak's bend last night, and then a major rune of tactics for my warrior 15 minutes later. I have even got some purple while out with just henchies which is a first for me.

Acan Vishnu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/N

15 Jun 2005 at 17:47 - 33

Edit: Removed my post, it wasn't on topic... thought this was another thread for a second there.

Aria Marisel

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2005

15 Jun 2005 at 18:14 - 34

The days of the monking fee are going to be over soon I'm betting. I was grouping with my alt in Frost Gate the other day and ended up in a five person group with three monks. Its happened to me a bunch lately in the Kryta area. Being a monk is trendy!

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

15 Jun 2005 at 18:17 - 35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aria Marisel

The days of the monking fee are going to be over soon I'm betting. I was grouping with my alt in Frost Gate the other day and ended up in a five person group with three monks. Its happened to me a bunch lately in the Kryta area. Being a monk is trendy!

If you're on your ALT in the future I'm in the Frost Gate/Yaks Bend area....we should party up

IGN: Algren Cole LvL14 R/W

ManadartheHealer

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Awaiting GW2

W/

15 Jun 2005 at 18:19 - 36

I never have, never will, and never will even think about having my monk charging for being in a group. That is completely foolish. Whenever somebody allows me to enter their group, I say hello and I thank them for the group they have let me enter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aria Marisel

The days of the monking fee are going to be over soon I'm betting. I was grouping with my alt in Frost Gate the other day and ended up in a five person group with three monks. Its happened to me a bunch lately in the Kryta area. Being a monk is trendy!

Those are most likely people's second characters after they completed the game first with their class of choice and noticed the monk shortage. They wanted in on the monk action

Misty Cross

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Michigan

D/Mo

15 Jun 2005 at 18:26 - 37

I once saw someone saying they will pay for someone to take them somewhere or another. I ended up PMing them and telling him that he shouldn't have to pay for that. Since I had never been where he was going I spent nearly 10 minutes trying to help him find someone to take him there *sigh*

Khrysyl

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

15 Jun 2005 at 18:39 - 38

Regarding the OP: I guess this is what happens when a game has no real community to speak of? People are not people that aare also playing the game, they are just another way to make a few gold coins. Sad.

Eclair

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

15 Jun 2005 at 18:46 - 39

There are still plenty of places to farm, just not both for runes AND money, at least not that I know of. If you want runes, do giants. I average 1.5 purples per run and a gold every 3 or so runs. If you want money, do blessed griffons or mountain trolls, I'd say probably 20-30k an hour from doing those, not to mention insane exp.