Skills - Echo

Guild Wars Guru

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

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Knight of Eonia

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Chronicles of Heroes [CoH]

R/

I would just like to point out that Ephaz does NOT offer this skill.

CKaz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2005

which makes sense as this one is an elite skill
if you don't want to wait, check out arcane echo..

Studio Ghibli

Studio Ghibli

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Gaelic Storm

.. find it on some purple dino on Perdition near the White Mantle quest people.

It's unlinked.

greenknight777

greenknight777

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Iron Curtain

Me/E

Rwek Khawl Mawl - Perdition Rock - Hydra

Lil Miss Muffet

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

MTH

i have a question about this skill.. it says it acts as the spell... does that mean its cooldown is changed? or how does the cooldown work for the spell that it steals?

s0m31

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Silver Dragons

R/N

Does echo work with rez sig? or is rez sig not considered as a skill?

quartet4

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

VA

Servants of Fortuna

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by s0m31
Does echo work with rez sig? or is rez sig not considered as a skill? Echo does work with rez signet.

Oryaka Drake

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

This skill is designed so that for the alloted time it directly MIMICS... the skill that it is echoing. Therefore any recharge times and things of this nature are considered. So a powerful combo is something like(not really powerful but decent) enervating charge or lightning strike or backfire.. or anything helpful.

Tindalos

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Ordo Rosae Moriatur

Me/R

Or, arcane echo the echo and have 3 of your favorite fun spell.

Efficient, not always.
Crazy to do, generally.
Funny, you bet!

s0m31

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Silver Dragons

R/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by quartet4
Echo does work with rez signet. Thanks

zemelett

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

The Dead-Lands

Quote:
Originally Posted by quartet4
Echo does work with rez signet.
I hate to break it to you but I tried this last night....it doesnt work also I tried it with signet of capture trying to get 2 skills for the price of 1...also a bust. Sorry but this info is bunk!

s0m31

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Silver Dragons

R/N

Aww that sucks. O well i guess double rezzing isn't possible now =/.

unclearconcept

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

CA

Chapter Eleven [XI]

E/Me

echo also only mimics the spell [and a spell, not a sig] for a certain amount of time as far as i know, so it would wear off.. but i guess if you had two guys down it mighta worked

Mercury Angel

Mercury Angel

Avatar of Gwen

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wandering my own road.

Quote:
Originally Posted by unclearconcept
echo also only mimics the spell [and a spell, not a sig] for a certain amount of time as far as i know, so it would wear off.. but i guess if you had two guys down it mighta worked Echo mimics any skill, arcane echo is the one limited to spells.
Rez Signet and Signet of Capture are just special exceptions to most other skills.

quanzong

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Somewhere cold

The Followers of the Messiah

W/Me

So if I used Echo with Final Thrust it would keep doing that skill until the sucker is dead?

Mercury Angel

Mercury Angel

Avatar of Gwen

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wandering my own road.

Quote:
Originally Posted by quanzong
So if I used Echo with Final Thrust it would keep doing that skill until the sucker is dead? No, you'd have a second copy of Final Thrust, which is pointless, as it still would drain all adrenaline for using it, so you could never use 2 in a row.

ElderAtronach

ElderAtronach

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/Me

A better combo would be Arcane Mimicry -> Echo -> Cleave so you could spam cleave to hell. Cyclone axe, Cleave, Cleave, is good times.

Tom und Metti

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Europe/Germany

R/Mo

Cleave its also elite btw. so impossible to act like that...

Mercury Angel

Mercury Angel

Avatar of Gwen

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wandering my own road.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom und Metti
Cleave its also elite btw. so impossible to act like that...
Quote: Originally Posted by ElderAtronach
A better combo would be Arcane Mimicry -> Echo -> Cleave so you could spam cleave to hell. Cyclone axe, Cleave, Cleave, is good times. It may not be practical due to large recharge times on arcane mimicry, but it's far from impossible.

Ollj

Ollj

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

The only worthy use for echo is uning it on a non-"spell" skill (that even excludes hex spells and enchantment spells).

use it on Glyphs, Signets, Traps, Nature Rituals and all kinds Attacks, it even copies the adrenaline on attacks, THIS makes the funniest and most flexible builds.

Silent Butt Deadly

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Echo does work on Healing Signet for reference. Personally I thought it had worked on Rez Signet for me before but I could be wrong (plus it's only 20 seconds duration so it would be very situational).

I tend to use it in pve on Cyclone Axe mainly, or sprint for those times when one burst of speed just isn't enough.

In pvp it's very useful in conjunction with Blackout, Shatter Hex, Diversion, etc, (although Arcane Mimicry would be almost as good for these and free up the elite slot - but since I play a W/Me I prefer Echo over Arcane Echo as it's cheaper, fixed duration & more flexible for copying warrior skills too - nothing like penetrating blow doubled up for 20 seconds to really drive the point home).

Edge Martinez

Edge Martinez

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

NC

DKL

I've been all over Perdition Rock and can't find this Rwek Khawl Mawl. I've seriously cleared every single area multiple times, have the whole thing visible on my map and have captured almost every other elite offered there. Did Anet change the location of this one?

mike00769

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

W/

Just killed Rwek Khawl Mawl he did not have it :-/ did it move?

Edge Martinez

Edge Martinez

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

NC

DKL

Quote:
Originally Posted by mike00769
Just killed Rwek Khawl Mawl he did not have it :-/ did it move? Where did you find him, and what did he have?

QuixotesGhost

QuixotesGhost

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

I've echoed Res Signet many a time in PvP, it is possible. My W/Me also likes echoing "To the Limit!" in PvE. Instant adrenaline spike, allows you to go through that sever artery+gash+galrath+Final thrust chain almost immediatly or quickly throw up bonetti's if need be.

raven claw

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

is echo worth getting ?

GreatLich

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by raven claw
is echo worth getting ? if you like to do things like:

echo + arcane echo + <long cool down, heavy nuke spell>

i'd say yes...

tossing Arcane Mimicry in somewhere in that chain might produce some odd results as well (can you arcane mimicry Oath Shot anyone?) or maybe use it with arcane thievery (will this really take out 3/8th of an enemy's monk's skillbar? or is there still a chance for the other copies of arcane thievery to steal an already disabled skill?)

Rajamic

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

IA

Chronicles of Heroes [CoH]

R/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by GreatLich
tossing Arcane Mimicry in somewhere in that chain might produce some odd results as well (can you arcane mimicry Oath Shot anyone?) or maybe use it with arcane thievery (will this really take out 3/8th of an enemy's monk's skillbar? or is there still a chance for the other copies of arcane thievery to steal an already disabled skill?)
You can Mimic Oath Shot. But someone tried this about a week ago, and they had set up Oath Shot so that it won't recharge any Oath Shot on your bar. Still mildly useful, since you could, with the help of Quickening Zephyr, unload Oath Shots every 5 seconds for a little while (privided you didn't miss). I think I'd prefer mimicing an Oath Shot while I had something like Incendiary on my skill bar, though.

As far as disabling someone with Arcane Echo, Echo, and Arcane Theivery, I've heard conflicting information. One person said it seemed to take the last skill the target had used (meaning you could easily take the most vital skills), while another has said it always duplicated the same skill (thus disabling one skill for them, but giving you 3 copies of it). I've never checked.

karunpav

karunpav

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Where do you get this skill?

karunpav

karunpav

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Ok, never mind, it's already posted.

Kai Nui

Kai Nui

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Behind you with a knife

Celebrity Gangsters [FamE]

Me/

I used to use Echo, Arcane Echo, and a nuke spell together. 3x the nukes, 3x the fun.

mattjx

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

Me/

Hey there! where abouts is Perdition? Which part of the map is it on?
Any help you can offer on the matter would be great! thanx for your help!

zigzag

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

R/W

GOD use it with storms! 2 fire storms hurt or use it with dis ranger with savage shot or something

iSo_Cody

iSo_Cody

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2006

clan iSo

W/R

i would like to say that using echo with backfire is hella fun when u use it on the enemy monk in say GvG,ab, or hoh. keep hittin him with backfire, and he keeps using spells, he ends up killing himself before he realizes it. =) funny to watch i might add

Poison Ivy

Poison Ivy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Toronto

Hopping

Mo/A

Nice revival.

Echo Mending with it

BTW, Backfire is too easily removed, it's the last thing I would suggest you to Echo in PvP.

Saphatorael

Saphatorael

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

Quote:
Originally Posted by mike00769
Just killed Rwek Khawl Mawl he did not have it :-/ did it move? Were you a mesmer primary or secondary at the time you killed him?

whobitz

whobitz

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/

According to guildwiki (not personal experience), if the boss echo'ed something before it died, you have to wait 30 seconds (or however much time would be left) for the skill to change back.

Echo

Lambentviper

Lambentviper

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Noobs Just Took Halls [WTF]

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by whobitz
According to guildwiki (not personal experience), if the boss echo'ed something before it died, you have to wait 30 seconds (or however much time would be left) for the skill to change back.

Echo i can be the personal expirience on this one, as my W/Me had to wait the 30 seconds

Terra Xin

Terra Xin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

That's a very weird trait for Echo to have, because when a player dies, Echo returns immediately and beings recharging. It should be classed as a bug rather than an ongoing effect.