Who do you hate more? Noobs or experienced?

Devts-Waver

Devts-Waver

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

USA, GA

Forgotten Legends

W/Mo

I see almost 5 times as many snobby experienced players than irretating noobs. Actaully, on second thought, I have ONLY seen snobby players and little if not zero noobs that bug me. So I want to get your votes on this.

Who do you hate more, snobby and more experienced players that think they know better than everyone else. Or do you hate the regular noobs more?

I vote experienced players.

EDIT

I have rephrased the question due to people telling me it's confusing.

StandardAI

StandardAI

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2005

K A R M A

Noobs waste hours of my time by messing up missions half way through, there's going to be "snobby" people whether experienced or not. I know people who just bought guildwars and try to sound like they're pros. Challenged one to a guild match and he said that I wasn't worthy yet I'm in karma, good game.

Phaedrus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Devts-Waver
I see almost 5 times as many snobby experienced players than irretating noobs. Actaully, on second thought, I have ONLY seen snobby players and little if not zero noobs that bug me. So I want to get your votes on this. Who do you hate more, snobby and more experienced players that try to put noobs down (or people that are better than them by calling the noobs too). Or do you hate the regular old noobs more?

I vote experienced players.
I vote snobby players who decide they're experienced and label people noobs.

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Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

in my view there is nothing at all wrong with criticizing horrible players for their horrible playing. if they are wasting the time of good players by joining non-n00b parties, then they deserve all the barrage of comments that are gonna come their way for making the good players lose

i vote for n00bs all the way

Feli

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Is there any other valid option then the "experienced players"?
Those constantly bitch and moan around about how THEY know how to play the game but EVERYONE else doesn't. Whenever i form a group i ask for people that are NOT Pro.

Well, those parties are the most successful ones with a minimum of leavers and complainers. However all of those "experienced players" only partys constantly ran into doom, got into arguements on how to play a character and had the occasional leaver that would just drop at the slightest sign of dificulty. As of course, an experienced team would not encounter any difficulty at all would it?

Get rid of experienced players. Hang them, ban them.

Red Locust

Red Locust

Site Contributor

Join Date: May 2005

n00bs. It's so annoying when you're going through a mission or doing PvP to have a noob do something totally idiotic and screw your entire team over. Sure it's not nice to insult them and all that, but most of the stuff the snobby experienced players say is what everyone else is thinking, so it ain't all that bad.

StandardAI

StandardAI

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2005

K A R M A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Feli
Get rid of experienced players. Hang them, ban them.
:Tries not to flame you:

Eclair

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

I vote n00bs who think they're experienced and act all snobby and arrogant

velvetbunny

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

I vote everyone who uses the term "n00b" constantly...

Edit: Now where is the wednesday update so i can go back to playing and stop staring at this forum.

Darc.Syde

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

Spirits Of War

Me/Mo

i hate noobs who think they're the most experienced.

StandardAI

StandardAI

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2005

K A R M A

I hate experienced players who think they're noobs.

Moltov joss

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

D/

Ahem.....I'm experienced!!! I dont bitch, complain, leave party, argue about tactics and whatnot. I stick with my team, I don't boss instead I make suggestions, I don't argue plainly because I don't care enoughf about trivial gameplay preferances.

Nice stereotypes everyone I was a noob once too, so was everyone else.

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

Join Date: May 2005

Lost in La-La Land

LFGuild

Mo/Me

Level 20 n00bs who think they are experienced. And under my definition, n00b/noob is different from newb or lowbie. I'll help lowbies all day long. I'll even try to help stupid lowbies until I have definitely determined that they are in fact noobs. If I party with a high-level moron, one of those you wonder how they made it out of the desert, I put them on my ignore list and I don't party with them again.

Bu7ch

Bu7ch

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

Cincinnati

Governors of Destruction [GOD]

R/

I vote drunks...oh that's me, so uh the snobby people then - they don't like drunks lol

Flame

Flame

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

The worst is the noobs who are convinced they are pros. For example, the person today who claimed to have 10 million gold, and when I told him the maximum on an account was 1.4 million, he claimed to have nine accounts. Then he offered 20k to anyone, but mysteriously didn't give it away. And all this started because he refused to believe you could buy Black Dye in Ascalon City.

Ardus Shadowmane

Ardus Shadowmane

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Guild of the Burning Tree

R/W

There's a definite difference between n00b and newb. If you're talking about n00bs, then that's what I have to go with, as they are by definition ignorant and refuse to learn anything, regardless of what level they are. If you mean newb, someone new to the game and confused, then comparing them to asshole experienced players is just silly.

And why would somebody start a thread that could only lead to a flame war anyway? Seriously, I'm surprised this isn't closed yet.

Mimu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

England, UK

Call of Destiny [call]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Flame
The worst is the noobs who are convinced they are pros.
I second that vote.

The best ones are the people who charge straight into the aggro, die and then try and tell you how to play the game whilst you happily take on the group of monsters.

Moofoo Pork

Moofoo Pork

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Brothers Of The Illuminati

I vote the snobby experienced.... I don't have to listen to them and at least they get the mission done- i dont care what they say

Sir Hammonsweet

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

I vote people who think that since they are experienced and so "1337" at a video game, that it constitutes their condescending attitutes to people who don't sit in front of their comps for 12 hours a day and jerk off to news of upcoming expansions.

Skawtt

Skawtt

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Oregon

W/N

............I hate spammers (looking for party excluded)

30PSI

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

TX and AR

Anybody worse than you is a noob, anybody better than you has no life. I don't know who I hate more but this logic applies to any online games. lol

hydrak

hydrak

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Devts-Waver
I see almost 5 times as many snobby experienced players than irretating noobs. Actaully, on second thought, I have ONLY seen snobby players and little if not zero noobs that bug me. So I want to get your votes on this. Who do you hate more, snobby and more experienced players that try to put noobs down (or people that are better than them by calling the noobs too). Or do you hate the regular old noobs more?

I vote experienced players.
I hate neither noobs nor experienced players. But I do hate cry babies. They cry just about anything that put them at a slight disadvantage. They threaten to boycott and blacklist the game. And yet they are still here, playing a game that they hate so much. There is a word describing this kind of behavior... what is it?

Hint: H-------E

DarrenJasper

DarrenJasper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

I vote for gross, sweeping generalizations.

Is that an option?

Bingley Joe

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Philosophers of Denravi

Quote:
Originally Posted by hydrak
I hate neither noobs nor experienced players. But I do hate cry babies. They cry just about anything that put them at a slight disadvantage. They threaten to boycott and blacklist the game. And yet they are still here, playing a game that they hate so much. There is a word describing this kind of behavior... what is it?

Hint: H-------E
Herbivore?

Porkchop Sandwhiches

Porkchop Sandwhiches

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fishing Village in Wizard's Folly

R/

I just hate stupid people

BaleFire

BaleFire

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

In a cave, by a lake of fire

i think "n00b" sounds a bit arrogant, personaly. there is only 20 lvls in this game so
u cant really call ppl that.

Robos Stavanis

Robos Stavanis

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Indianapolis, In.

Order of the Setting Sun

I gotta go with the snobs...Can't stand them. We all were noob's at one time, it is just the snobs took a left turn somewhere along the line

DrSLUGFly

DrSLUGFly

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

European Server or International

as was already mentioned, noob doesn't = low level or new to the game. noob = somebody who refuses to listen and does stupid things. The following things bug me a lot and admittedly I see them more on high levels than low:

-not listening to others in the party...
-solo aggro while others are recharging or far behind...
-not waiting when "wait" is asked for...
-bitching about not getting healed (this one bugs me a lot, if I die it's because I died, I can't blame the healer cuz I couldn't get out of a bad situation)...
-spamming : res, res, res

these are about it... and once again, I do see them far more often in experienced players than in noobs... in fact... except for the solo aggro, I don't really see any of them in noobs.

Deathlord

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

PVP Ranger: Does Stuff Fast

XXX

W/Mo

See, I'd agree with you but I think you might've phrased your question wrong. The question I was looking more for was "What do you hate more, inexperienced players or stupid ones?". Stupid one's can be experienced, but they constantly yell at inexperienced/other stupid's without knowing that it won't do anything except annoy teamates. Experienced players don't always yell at newbs and inexperienced players don't always not listen. I'm not sure how I'm going to give a direct answer to the question so I just won't. Hopefully this won't be considered as spam...

Terminal

Terminal

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Vocal Minority, R.I.P.

Mo/Me

Most snobs don't really know how to play their class or their role in a group either - so they are n00bs. Moronic bent of mind doesn't change wether that person is level 2 or level 20. So morons = n00bs = snobs. I avoid those like cholera.

Newbs on the other hand (new players) are perfetly cool. If they have questions, I can spend hours explaining to them whatever I know and helping out in doing missions, whatever. As long as they don't turn into "n00bs".

Wilford

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2005

I realy hate the word noob and i usaly leave the party when people start to spam that word to other people.

Players that is new to this game and players that behave like morons i can handle but people that inslult other players i cant stand. Leave that elitist thinking when you log in to the game and try to have fun insteed.

Shadow_Avenger

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Stolen Dreams

R/Me

I personally think both are as bad as each other and the people who post about it are just as be, why??
Because beleive it or not people are influenced by what they read on the Forums, also I strongly suspect the noisiest of players are often avid posters on forums like this.
It is not something thats just limited to this forum, it is on the majority of GW forums although some do have a much strict policy.
Noobs because some times they want you to do the game for them, they actually don't have any desire to learn and experiance the game. Then the experiance players can be the most selfcenter **** sure gits in the gaming world.

Tyil Thunder Arrow

Tyil Thunder Arrow

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

md. usa

Daemon Bane Clan

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eclair
I vote n00bs who think they're experienced and act all snobby and arrogant
Ya like people who have played guild wars for like a month and think their all l33t.

When there are some of us here who have been around since the first days of ultima online where it all started. Even further way back in the mud days which i must admit i still play some.

Just cause someone is lower level in game doesn't mean they have not been around a long time.

Have I mentioned l33t speak blows

Myodato

Myodato

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

WOR

Mo/

My personal pet hate is experienced players who think they can start acting like noobs just because they've hit lvl 20.

The best example I can give is the warrior who charged off in the Underworld (whilst everyone else was waiting for energy to recharge) to cry 10 seconds later,

"wtf ? there was only 1!"

Tetris L

Tetris L

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Germany

Servants of Fortuna

Quote:
Originally Posted by Devts-Waver
Who do you hate more? Noobs or experienced?
There are idiots in both groups alike and nice people in both groups alike.

Serenity Lathain

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2005

Bergen, Norway

W/R

The worst are people always having to hate someone. You must have very easy lives..

Mr. Matt

Mr. Matt

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

R/Mo

I don't care either way. I'm only interested in having fun playing the game. I'd rather spend three hours just exploring and accomplishing nothing than three hours rushing through the quests trying to get as much money and experience as I can in a short time-span, if you see what I'm saying. The rest of the team could be totally unskilled in every manner and we could end up dying numerous times, and I wouldn't be particularly bothered just so long as they weren't obnoxious about it, and just laughed it off.

As I still go out with henchmen most of the time, you can guess how many people such as those I see around, though.

Aalric

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

W/N

I cannot STAND rude and arrogant players. I have nothing against inxeperienced people - we were all inexperienced at a stage - but I truly cannot stand rude people. I have had people who have insulted people for no reason, who have sworn at people, who have called people Nazi's, and that is just the beginning of their rudeness. Why people think that they are cleverer than everyone else and can therefore insult everyone is beyond me.

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

I hate the experience snobes, I call them 'Elitists'. They make no distinction between newbies and n00bs. N00bs can be weeded out pretty easily in the game by the way they act in the outposts for recruiting, wanting players much more experienced then them but trying to be elite about it. Elitists only want to group with someone who is just as experienced and anyone who isn't is a stupid idiot that doesn't deserve to be in the same district.

I have all the time in the world for newbies. I like bossing around a bit (nicely of course) and they listen, then whether we win, I thank them for doing a good job and listening. If we lose, I apologise and ask for a possible new strategy because it was my fault that got us killed.

I also enjoy making small talk in districts when someone asks for experienced players and no newbies, I reply with something along the lines of "I'm pretty good, but I've only been playing since late april so I'm still a newbie"

Shandoo Bilari

Shandoo Bilari

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

NoVa

Dark Brotherhood

Mo/

I crave a kick button whilst in an instance.