Doppelganger? no no no!

Rhombus

Rhombus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Don't remember the name

R/N

I don't want a german name in an english game! Mirror self or your evil twin would be better (cuz that guy looks evil, with his black armor and red fiery head)

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhombus
I don't want a german name in an english game! Mirror self or your evil twin would be better (cuz that guy looks evil, with his black armor and red fiery head)
er... many words in english come from German, Frence, etc... etc... names, so I'm not sure what your upset about?

Since its not a mirror image of yourself its not a fitting name for it.

Caco-Cola

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

College Station, TX

Kansas City Hotsteppers. Hawt!

Yah uh...if you don't want foreign words in the English language you're SOL big time.

English is the largest borrower of words out of ANY language.

Pretty much every 'english' word derives from French, Latin, etc.

In fact I dont' think there is a sole word that belongs to English alone.

Phaedrus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Caco-Cola
Yah uh...if you don't want foreign words in the English language you're SOL big time.

English is the largest borrower of words out of ANY language.

Pretty much every 'english' word derives from French, Latin, etc.

In fact I dont' think there is a sole word that belongs to English alone.
Hotdog.

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Tyil Thunder Arrow

Tyil Thunder Arrow

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

md. usa

Daemon Bane Clan

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Caco-Cola
In fact I dont' think there is a sole word that belongs to English alone.
internet
baseball

but seriously doppleganger sounds a lot better than mirror image.
didn't you fight your mirror image in zelda

Schorny

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Caco-Cola
In fact I dont' think there is a sole word that belongs to English alone.
English, Latin, German, French all have the same roots. So there are words which only exists in one of those language, but many words share common bases.

And Doppelganger is a legal english word, like Kindergarden or Hamburger is. Funny thing: Hamburger is mostly considered a typical english word

There is no need to be so scared of foreign words as the french are: they even got a commission to make up french words for foreign words that want to intrude the french language...

Tyil Thunder Arrow

Tyil Thunder Arrow

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

md. usa

Daemon Bane Clan

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Schorny
There is no need to be so scared of foreign words as the french are: they even got a commission to make up french words for foreign words that want to intrude the french language...
Bites toungue hard and just tries to giggle. A commission now that's funy right thur

Tetris L

Tetris L

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Germany

Servants of Fortuna

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhombus
I don't want a german name in an english game! Mirror self or your evil twin would be better (cuz that guy looks evil, with his black armor and red fiery head)
Evil is the key word here.
He's TEH EVIL GIULDWARS NAZI, so a German name suits him perfectly.



It's "Doppelgänger", btw.



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Judas Hawksriff

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Guardians Of Gwen

W/R

Doppelgänger = Double

That'd do me fine!

Massassi

Massassi

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

kneeling at the feet of Grenth.

Doppelgangers are also a well known race of fantasy monsters.

Rhombus

Rhombus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Don't remember the name

R/N

really? neway about the french, i know its true. They dont use computer like all other countries do, they use ordinateur

EDIT: hotdog is actually an american word, but Lorry is english So is haggis

Caco-Cola

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

College Station, TX

Kansas City Hotsteppers. Hawt!

Ok I guess there was never a Latin word for 'hotdog'.

Canis igneous?

Epinephrine

Epinephrine

Master of Beasts

Join Date: Mar 2005

Ottawa, Canada

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Schorny
English, Latin, German, French all have the same roots. So there are words which only exists in one of those language, but many words share common bases.
To be fair, the germanic languages are considered distinct from the romance languages. They share roots in the proto-indo-european, but that's going back a LONG ways. English and German are closer, sharing the proto-west-germanic ancestor, while latin, french and the related language are from the italic roots, shared with romaninan, catalan, spanish, portugese. We use a lot of words of latin origins despite being a germanic language.

Eagle923

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Caco-Cola
Ok I guess there was never a Latin word for 'hotdog'.

Canis igneous?
No... it is "Meatius Fakeous"

Padre

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Dragon Eye

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Epinephrine
To be fair, the germanic languages are considered distinct from the romance languages. They share roots in the proto-indo-european, but that's going back a LONG ways. English and German are closer, sharing the proto-west-germanic ancestor, while latin, french and the related language are from the italic roots, shared with romaninan, catalan, spanish, portugese. We use a lot of words of latin origins despite being a germanic language.
Hah, someone that actually knows something about languages

English is a germanic language, but blame William the Conquerer for corrupting it with a bunch of his silly french and making us call "beef" (from the french) something different from "cow" (from the german), among other things

Lek Stacy

Lek Stacy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canada

Savage Killers (SK)

N/Mo

Main Entry: dop·pel·gäng·er
Variant(s): or dop·pel·gang·er /'dä-p&l-"ga[ng]-&r, -"ge[ng]-, "dä-p&l-'/
Function: noun
Etymology: German Doppelgänger, from doppel- double + -gänger goer
1 : a ghostly counterpart of a living person
2 a : DOUBLE 2a b : ALTER EGO b c : a person who has the same name as another

Much better.
And Epinephrine is correct, english is a germanic language.

Caco-Cola

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

College Station, TX

Kansas City Hotsteppers. Hawt!

Every language has the same roots. Indo-European.

I believe the study of words and where they come from is called Etymology.

There's my spurt of intelligence for today.

Adn I still have to go to work. See what you made me do?

Gerbill

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

The Frozen plains.

The Llanowar Legion [LL]

Me/N

There's also an MVP (boss monster) in Ragnarok online called doppelganger, never really got that though since the only ghostly imitation that is is of the knight class but oh well..

Magus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Epinephrine is exactly right about English being a Germanic language, another group distinct from the Romance languages (Latin, French, Spanish, etc.), however both are in the main group of Indo-European languages. As it is, English and German are more related grammatically than anything else. Many words are similar (father, vater), but as the two languages share such an old origin, they both diverged, and many of the "pure English" words may sound nothing like German words, but may have actually evolved from the same words long in the past. Much Latin got introduced into English through things like the Roman occupation (which lasted half a century, I believe) of "England," the Norman conquest of England (who spoke French normally, but used Latin for governmental and church-related things), and finally the Renaissance, where a huge interest in the Roman Empire caused many scholars to go back to Latin.

But, that aside, English assimilates many words from other languages. And yes, "doppelganger" is an English word. "Doppelgänger" is German. It may have a German etymology, but again it is estimated that over 90% of English words were taken from other languages at some point, so if you really want "pure English," be prepared to forget most of the language.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gerbill
There's also an MVP (boss monster) in Ragnarok online called doppelganger, never really got that though since the only ghostly imitation that is is of the knight class but oh well..
Oohh he was hell to fight. When he used two-hand-quicken, his attack speed becomes faster than your flinching rate when you get hit. So basically, whoever's tanking him can't do anything at all. Luckily, I was able to just sit back and cast stuff on him, being a wizard and all.

Makarei

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

It would be good, just before you fight your Doppelganger, that it turned into an exact layout of your characters form. taking on all aspects of appearance, down to the very fine thread on your guild cape. Also your characters name (confusing i know, but it would be great)

What would be alot of fun, for a future quest or something. is taking on a complete doppelganger group of your party :-)

Rhombus

Rhombus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Don't remember the name

R/N

lol makarei thats a nice suggestion. and stacy (thought that was the name too lazy to reach for my mouse and scroll back up), tnx for explaining wtf a doppelganger actually is. You win, I rest my case.

Epinephrine

Epinephrine

Master of Beasts

Join Date: Mar 2005

Ottawa, Canada

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Caco-Cola
Every language has the same roots. Indo-European.
Nope. Many languages aren't derived from these - among them are the Afro-Asiatic languages, Sino-Tibetan, Austroasiatic, Austronesian, various aboriginal languages of north and south America, etc...

Lief

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Faction Issues

R/Me

Some people need to learn their history better before making amusing threads like this one ^^

Nicro Mancer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

London

BOA

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhombus
really? neway about the french, i know its true. They dont use computer like all other countries do, they use ordinateur

EDIT: hotdog is actually an american word, but Lorry is english So is haggis
isnt haggis scottish?

Dirkiess

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Uk, England.

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicro Mancer
isnt haggis scottish?
That's what I thought. Just hope the Welsh don't start with there words. Now that would make some interesting thoughts for those trying to determine where they get there wording from.

LadyCallipyge

LadyCallipyge

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eagle923
No... it is "Meatius Fakeous"

Hahahahaha!

InvaderGIR

InvaderGIR

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

This is completely irrelevant, but I had to share this:

gigantasmesocricetusauratusdioxipodosfairochorafip hobia
noun - the fear of being chased by a giant hamster around a football field.

*edit* I guess the word spam bot had to chop it up. Well, the "hobia" is a part of the rest of the word. :P

Lord Avalon

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Hotdog, aka frankfurter....

Volarian

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Texas

NOT-Nomads Of Turmoil

ain't, fixinta, yall etc.


...ok they're not really english words they're Texan-speak!!!

Elythor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

Elysium Protectorate [EP]

Quote:
Originally Posted by InvaderGIR
This is completely irrelevant, but I had to share this:

gigantasmesocricetusauratusdioxipodosfairochorafip hobia
noun - the fear of being chased by a giant hamster around a football field.
My new word of the day!!

Kossan

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

regardless of the roots and actual meaning of the word I can honestly say that it's a DAMN ugly word....I mean cmon....seriously ugly

Osangar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

This one from websters:



dop·pel·gäng·er or dop·pel·gang·er ( P ) Pronunciation Key (dpl-gngr, -gng-)
n.
A ghostly double of a living person, especially one that haunts its fleshly counterpart.



I think it's the most fitting name you could consider for what we fight :P.

UberRusty

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

amsterdam, where male prostitution is legal

[GGG] Gay Guild Gals

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asdfasfasdfasf <-- Now that's English. It's called SPAM.