Doppelganger? no no no!

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Rhombus
Rhombus
Frost Gate Guardian
#1
I don't want a german name in an english game! Mirror self or your evil twin would be better (cuz that guy looks evil, with his black armor and red fiery head)
RTSFirebat
RTSFirebat
The Humanoid Typhoon
#2
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Originally Posted by Rhombus
I don't want a german name in an english game! Mirror self or your evil twin would be better (cuz that guy looks evil, with his black armor and red fiery head)
er... many words in english come from German, Frence, etc... etc... names, so I'm not sure what your upset about?

Since its not a mirror image of yourself its not a fitting name for it.
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Caco-Cola
Krytan Explorer
#3
Yah uh...if you don't want foreign words in the English language you're SOL big time.

English is the largest borrower of words out of ANY language.

Pretty much every 'english' word derives from French, Latin, etc.

In fact I dont' think there is a sole word that belongs to English alone.
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Phaedrus
Lion's Arch Merchant
#4
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Originally Posted by Caco-Cola
Yah uh...if you don't want foreign words in the English language you're SOL big time.

English is the largest borrower of words out of ANY language.

Pretty much every 'english' word derives from French, Latin, etc.

In fact I dont' think there is a sole word that belongs to English alone.
Hotdog.

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Tyil Thunder Arrow
Tyil Thunder Arrow
Frost Gate Guardian
#5
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Originally Posted by Caco-Cola
In fact I dont' think there is a sole word that belongs to English alone.
internet
baseball

but seriously doppleganger sounds a lot better than mirror image.
didn't you fight your mirror image in zelda
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Schorny
Wilds Pathfinder
#6
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Originally Posted by Caco-Cola
In fact I dont' think there is a sole word that belongs to English alone.
English, Latin, German, French all have the same roots. So there are words which only exists in one of those language, but many words share common bases.

And Doppelganger is a legal english word, like Kindergarden or Hamburger is. Funny thing: Hamburger is mostly considered a typical english word

There is no need to be so scared of foreign words as the french are: they even got a commission to make up french words for foreign words that want to intrude the french language...
Tyil Thunder Arrow
Tyil Thunder Arrow
Frost Gate Guardian
#7
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Originally Posted by Schorny
There is no need to be so scared of foreign words as the french are: they even got a commission to make up french words for foreign words that want to intrude the french language...
Bites toungue hard and just tries to giggle. A commission now that's funy right thur
Tetris L
Tetris L
Jungle Guide
#8
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Originally Posted by Rhombus
I don't want a german name in an english game! Mirror self or your evil twin would be better (cuz that guy looks evil, with his black armor and red fiery head)
Evil is the key word here.
He's TEH EVIL GIULDWARS NAZI, so a German name suits him perfectly.



It's "Doppelgänger", btw.



<- /me points out location
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Judas Hawksriff
Frost Gate Guardian
#9
Doppelgänger = Double

That'd do me fine!
Massassi
Massassi
Academy Page
#10
Doppelgangers are also a well known race of fantasy monsters.
Rhombus
Rhombus
Frost Gate Guardian
#11
really? neway about the french, i know its true. They dont use computer like all other countries do, they use ordinateur

EDIT: hotdog is actually an american word, but Lorry is english So is haggis
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Caco-Cola
Krytan Explorer
#12
Ok I guess there was never a Latin word for 'hotdog'.

Canis igneous?
Epinephrine
Epinephrine
Master of Beasts
#13
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Originally Posted by Schorny
English, Latin, German, French all have the same roots. So there are words which only exists in one of those language, but many words share common bases.
To be fair, the germanic languages are considered distinct from the romance languages. They share roots in the proto-indo-european, but that's going back a LONG ways. English and German are closer, sharing the proto-west-germanic ancestor, while latin, french and the related language are from the italic roots, shared with romaninan, catalan, spanish, portugese. We use a lot of words of latin origins despite being a germanic language.
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Eagle923
Academy Page
#14
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Originally Posted by Caco-Cola
Ok I guess there was never a Latin word for 'hotdog'.

Canis igneous?
No... it is "Meatius Fakeous"

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Padre
Academy Page
#15
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Originally Posted by Epinephrine
To be fair, the germanic languages are considered distinct from the romance languages. They share roots in the proto-indo-european, but that's going back a LONG ways. English and German are closer, sharing the proto-west-germanic ancestor, while latin, french and the related language are from the italic roots, shared with romaninan, catalan, spanish, portugese. We use a lot of words of latin origins despite being a germanic language.
Hah, someone that actually knows something about languages

English is a germanic language, but blame William the Conquerer for corrupting it with a bunch of his silly french and making us call "beef" (from the french) something different from "cow" (from the german), among other things
Lek Stacy
Lek Stacy
Ascalonian Squire
#16
Main Entry: dop·pel·gäng·er
Variant(s): or dop·pel·gang·er /'dä-p&l-"ga[ng]-&r, -"ge[ng]-, "dä-p&l-'/
Function: noun
Etymology: German Doppelgänger, from doppel- double + -gänger goer
1 : a ghostly counterpart of a living person
2 a : DOUBLE 2a b : ALTER EGO b c : a person who has the same name as another

Much better.
And Epinephrine is correct, english is a germanic language.
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Caco-Cola
Krytan Explorer
#17
Every language has the same roots. Indo-European.

I believe the study of words and where they come from is called Etymology.

There's my spurt of intelligence for today.

Adn I still have to go to work. See what you made me do?
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Gerbill
Lion's Arch Merchant
#18
There's also an MVP (boss monster) in Ragnarok online called doppelganger, never really got that though since the only ghostly imitation that is is of the knight class but oh well..
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Magus
Lion's Arch Merchant
#19
Epinephrine is exactly right about English being a Germanic language, another group distinct from the Romance languages (Latin, French, Spanish, etc.), however both are in the main group of Indo-European languages. As it is, English and German are more related grammatically than anything else. Many words are similar (father, vater), but as the two languages share such an old origin, they both diverged, and many of the "pure English" words may sound nothing like German words, but may have actually evolved from the same words long in the past. Much Latin got introduced into English through things like the Roman occupation (which lasted half a century, I believe) of "England," the Norman conquest of England (who spoke French normally, but used Latin for governmental and church-related things), and finally the Renaissance, where a huge interest in the Roman Empire caused many scholars to go back to Latin.

But, that aside, English assimilates many words from other languages. And yes, "doppelganger" is an English word. "Doppelgänger" is German. It may have a German etymology, but again it is estimated that over 90% of English words were taken from other languages at some point, so if you really want "pure English," be prepared to forget most of the language.

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Originally Posted by Gerbill
There's also an MVP (boss monster) in Ragnarok online called doppelganger, never really got that though since the only ghostly imitation that is is of the knight class but oh well..
Oohh he was hell to fight. When he used two-hand-quicken, his attack speed becomes faster than your flinching rate when you get hit. So basically, whoever's tanking him can't do anything at all. Luckily, I was able to just sit back and cast stuff on him, being a wizard and all.
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Makarei
Elite Guru
#20
It would be good, just before you fight your Doppelganger, that it turned into an exact layout of your characters form. taking on all aspects of appearance, down to the very fine thread on your guild cape. Also your characters name (confusing i know, but it would be great)

What would be alot of fun, for a future quest or something. is taking on a complete doppelganger group of your party :-)