Farming for Ele/Mo .. a bit of help plz

JedyKnight

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Well i just changed my secondary from necro to monk so that i can farm, can anyone tell me how can i build such a char? I saw a movie about farming with such a char and it worked very nice only i dont really know what skills and atributes to put

Plz help .. tkz.

Spike

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

In front of my PC

Kai

E/Mo

well try fire magic/energy storage and healing works for me

JedyKnight

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Some more in depth help ?

Vhayr

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Malice Nights [MN]

A/Me

If you search the builds forum or just do a regular search, I'm sure you'll find something. There's plenty on farming here, you just have to look a bit.

Good luck with the build.

Rubch One

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

The essential attribute lines are smiting and energy storage. I use earth as my tertiary, but it may or may not be necessary depending on the mobs you’re farming. Obviously the more points you can assign to smiting the better.

Current build (most effective against melee mobs)
Divine boon
Ether renewal
Armor of earth
Kinetic armor
Retribution
Balthazar’s spirit
Zealot’s fire
Aura of restoration

The real key to this build is zealot’s fire, ether renewal and divine boon. Zealot’s fire attacks mobs around you when you cast spells on yourself. Ether renewal heals you and provides you energy (the amounts are up to 17 health and 4 energy PER enchantment you currently have on you). Divine boon heals you for roughly 25 health and can be recast every ¼ second and costs 5+2 energy. Given that 7 of the 8 skills are enchantments, by casting all of the enchantments and spamming divine boon, you can potentially heal yourself 501 health per second (25+(17 x 7 x 4) not including aura of restore) and regain 112 energy per second (4 x 7 x4) and deal a lot of damage via zealot’s fire. Ether renewal expires in 10 seconds and has a 30 second recharge, so you’re going to have to survive for 20 seconds before you can cast it again. This is where maintaining kinetic armor and the use of armor of earth come in handy.

I want to try a build with shield of judgment, but I haven’t gotten that skill yet. I’m not sure how the energy management side will work without ether renewal since both are elites. Any one have some thoughts?

Rossaroni

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Knight Vision [KnV]

Mo/

Here's my E/Mo's build for farming. I usually do all my farming at Riverside, since the abundance of mantle (melee) makes it easy to control the battle.

Smiting/E Storage/Protection/Earth:
Glyph of Lesser Energy
Reversal of Fortune
Mark of Protection
Symbol of Wrath
Balthazar's Aura
Armor of Earth
Zealot's Fire
Aura of Restoration

The idea here is to buff yourself, run into battle, then throw on the glyph and cast Balthazar's Aura. Then plop down Symbol, and after that's done, let your hp drop a bit before casting Mark of Protection. I usually like to wait until my Armor of Earth fades, so that the Mark heals me for more. Then you can just spam Reversal until you make up the slack damage, or just cast another glyph/Balthazar's.

You could try swapping Protection for healing, and then making your first 3 skills Healing Breeze, Orison of Healing, and Healing Hands.

I've tried using Shield of Judgement, and it works like a charm, especially with Protection, since it allows you enough time to cast Reversal of Fortune between attacks. It's always good, though, no matter if you're using Protection or Healing, to have one cheap and fast spell like Reversal or Orison, so that you can make good use of Zealot's Fire.

Ketendra

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

New York

JackKnife Brigade

E/Mo

it really depends on how you plan on using it, and where you plan on farming, with my elmo I like to find big groups of mobs and AoE em to death (fire storm, Meteor Shower, Pheonix, Rodgort's Invocation) and keep mending up at all times. At the end of a battle I am completly out of power, but I have all that loot to pick up

JedyKnight

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

And what runes do you ppl use? to do it? have special tipe of armor to farming or not really?
Btw where can i get Shield of Judgement? tkz for all the tips

Aaaaagh

Aaaaagh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by JedyKnight
And what runes do you ppl use? to do it? have special tipe of armor to farming or not really?
Btw where can i get Shield of Judgement? tkz for all the tips
Normally I refrain from these type of posts, but wow. Why dont you try some things yourself, rather than having everyone hold your hand. The first response was a good response, but that wasnt enough. You want to know exact skills, where to find the skills and which runes people use?

Im trying to come up with something constructive for you...I really am. How about this, go plug in your nintendo. Play games that dont require any thought.

ImBobNewbie

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

TX

[NES] Nintendo Powered

E/Mo

This is my lvl 20 E/Mo build, its working pretty well but a bit suicidal. I dont see any reason to use smiting prayers if you are E primary. Smiting prayers cant ever do 230 dmg in a shot (but phoenix can)

12 fire
10 energy storage
8 healing

thats approx what I run

skills used:

immolation (flare isnt enough to strong monsters)
lava font (quick cooldown)
inferno (or flame burst if you have plenty of mana, cuz burst has faster cooldown)
phoenix (i take down large mobs with this)
meteor shower
elemental attunement (elite, 50% mana back)
mending (3 regen per sec, pretty good)
healing breeze

And where to farm? Obviously ANet despises farming, so it will be hard now. Go somewhere with monsters you can handle. Id suggest the jungle areas for you because my E/Mo wipes out the moss scarabs in the jungle 7 at a time. Usually makes 10K an hour pure cash (not many useful items though...low lvl)

Runes? Superior fire, minor energy storage are it for me.

Dazzler

Dazzler

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rossaroni
Here's my E/Mo's build for farming. I usually do all my farming at Riverside, since the abundance of mantle (melee) makes it easy to control the battle.

Smiting/E Storage/Protection/Earth:
Glyph of Lesser Energy
Reversal of Fortune
Mark of Protection
Symbol of Wrath
Balthazar's Aura
Armor of Earth
Zealot's Fire
Aura of Restoration

The idea here is to buff yourself, run into battle, then throw on the glyph and cast Balthazar's Aura. Then plop down Symbol, and after that's done, let your hp drop a bit before casting Mark of Protection. I usually like to wait until my Armor of Earth fades, so that the Mark heals me for more. Then you can just spam Reversal until you make up the slack damage, or just cast another glyph/Balthazar's.

You could try swapping Protection for healing, and then making your first 3 skills Healing Breeze, Orison of Healing, and Healing Hands.

I've tried using Shield of Judgement, and it works like a charm, especially with Protection, since it allows you enough time to cast Reversal of Fortune between attacks. It's always good, though, no matter if you're using Protection or Healing, to have one cheap and fast spell like Reversal or Orison, so that you can make good use of Zealot's Fire.
How do you deal with all the shatter enchantments the spellcasters use?

I can find very few groups of mantle that don't have a spellcaster that debuffs me.

JedyKnight

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaaaagh
Normally I refrain from these type of posts, but wow. Why dont you try some things yourself, rather than having everyone hold your hand. The first response was a good response, but that wasnt enough. You want to know exact skills, where to find the skills and which runes people use?

Im trying to come up with something constructive for you...I really am. How about this, go plug in your nintendo. Play games that dont require any thought.
Im trying to find out accurate build from other players so i can test them against my own and then if workable to shape them up my own style, i dont want nothing hand over i never did, im just curious because i just swaped to monk and i dont have that much skill points to spend and im trying to cut the odds a bit get it? about how to find the skills i only asked for one perhaps because i still didnt capture it before and i find it an amazing skill to farming. About the runes it was more curiosity over the build since its a solo farming build and usually there have to be a rune change, at least for my builds. Btw if u dont have anything constructive to say and rather flame like a good boy you are .. plz keep away from these posts, u are to much of a l337 for me so save us all from your wonderfull comments.

Guillotine

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaaaagh
Normally I refrain from these type of posts, but wow. Why dont you try some things yourself, rather than having everyone hold your hand. The first response was a good response, but that wasnt enough. You want to know exact skills, where to find the skills and which runes people use?
It's a Q/A forum, what the hell were you expecting? Moron.

Dazzler

Dazzler

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

E/Me

I farmed for the first time last night with my E/Me and I pwned them mobs!
In 3 hours I made 120,000gp and unlocked many many runes, including sup. vigor and major vigor.

Attributes:
15 Fire (major rune)
10 or 11 Water (major rune)
10 or 11 Energy (minor rune)

Skills
Well, I don't really wanna spill the beans here as I don't want it to get nerfed, but I used Fire, Water and even a Mesmer skill.

Location
Again...no sense giving that away for the nerfbat. Just find a good group of melee opponents and whack 'em down.

shinseikaze

shinseikaze

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Dark Side Of The Force

E/Mo

really you made 120k in 3hrs?

Dazzler

Dazzler

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

E/Me

Yeah I started off with only 3000 gp and ended up with over 120,000 *after* I bought a new set of 1.5k droknar's armor and a superior fire rune for 20k. So I think I actually made more than 120k in that 3 hours.

Understand the cash came from selling runes.
I sold 5 major vigor for like 8k each = 40k (and kept one for myself)
Sold a superior vigor for cheap--only 65k.

That's 105k right there.

Sold some minor sword runes for 1k each.
Sold a superior axe for alot
Sold a major absorption for alot.

Before this 3-hour run, I'd only made about 7k total in 80hrs PvE through Droknar's Forge. and I'd only unlocked 0 superior runes, 2 major runes (for a different profession) and 5-6 minor runes.

During this 3-hour session, I unlocked 4-5 superiors, a bunch of majors, and a crapload of minors.

Next time I will try and keep track of how many runes I get.

pr3miumi

pr3miumi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Lahti, Finland

Genuine Replicas

E/Me

I thought you couldnt use majors and minors together?

Aaaaagh

Aaaaagh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guillotine
It's a Q/A forum, what the hell were you expecting? Moron.
He got his answer on the first post. What I was expecting was for him to take his answer and use it. I have disdain for anyone who dont have the initiative to try things themselves. Its one thing to ask a question, its another to 'copy/paste' the work someone else has done. Furthermore, after he gets his carbon copy builds, he then wants to know what runes and armor to use! Asking for skill locations when this site has a listing of skill locations... LAZY! Come on...thats way overboard.

Just run to ebay and buy an accout with everything set if thats your mentality.

Here is the link for Shield of Judgement...this is me trying to be partially constructive. http://www.guildwarsguru.com/skill/2...d-of-judgement

JedyKnight

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

there is smthing called information sharing .. for example i try one build i post on someones ppl "sharing" so if they like it they will try, if they try some other build i havnt test it yet then i maybe willing to try it too .. its called "information sharing" for evolution purposes .. i guess u aint familiar with that aint you? i guess u were the poor bastard no one help as a child and then got a bit cranky no?

Arcane Senses Failed

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Veni Vidi Vicious

Me/W

what locations are most common for farming?

Rubch One

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

In terms of locations, it really depends on your level and build. Few people are going to publicize their favorite farming spots in fear of having them nerfed. A lot of the builds you see here involve buffs and spells. Therefore, they're usually most effective against melee mobs that don't debuff or interrupt, i.e. white mantle (they'll typically only have one debuffer in a group), minotaur, hydras (their initial meteor will knock down and interrupt), etc.

Rubch One

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

In terms of locations, it really depends on your level and build. Few people are going to publicize their favorite farming spots in fear of having them nerfed. A lot of the builds you see here involve buffs and spells. Therefore, they're usually most effective against melee mobs that don't debuff or interrupt, i.e. white mantle (they'll typically only have one debuffer in a group), minotaur, hydras (their initial meteor will knock down and interrupt), drakes, etc.

salatious

salatious

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Richmond, Va

Looking for a better Guild

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzler
I farmed for the first time last night with my E/Me and I pwned them mobs!
In 3 hours I made 120,000gp and unlocked many many runes, including sup. vigor and major vigor.

Attributes:
15 Fire (major rune)
10 or 11 Water (major rune)
10 or 11 Energy (minor rune)

Skills
Well, I don't really wanna spill the beans here as I don't want it to get nerfed, but I used Fire, Water and even a Mesmer skill.

Location
Again...no sense giving that away for the nerfbat. Just find a good group of melee opponents and whack 'em down.
Im not sure what exploit your using but you have to be using something for solo farming with this get up? you have no healing in there so how do you sustain so much damage? and with 2 majors you are losing 100 health

pr3miumi

pr3miumi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Lahti, Finland

Genuine Replicas

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by salatious
Im not sure what exploit your using but you have to be using something for solo farming with this get up? you have no healing in there so how do you sustain so much damage? and with 2 majors you are losing 100 health
Hmm, he's got water magic, so I guess he's using mist form, blocks physical damage for some time, guess he's farming a place with physical monsters, I do it myself too, 13 fire magic, 12 energy storage, 8 water magic, only minor runes and I wont die, dunno how he made that much money there though, I only make a bit more than 120k a day there, unless I find rare max items :P

Venom

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Calgary, Canada

Idiot Savants

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzler
Yeah I started off with only 3000 gp and ended up with over 120,000 *after* I bought a new set of 1.5k droknar's armor and a superior fire rune for 20k. So I think I actually made more than 120k in that 3 hours.

Understand the cash came from selling runes.
I sold 5 major vigor for like 8k each = 40k (and kept one for myself)
Sold a superior vigor for cheap--only 65k.

That's 105k right there.

Sold some minor sword runes for 1k each.
Sold a superior axe for alot
Sold a major absorption for alot.

Before this 3-hour run, I'd only made about 7k total in 80hrs PvE through Droknar's Forge. and I'd only unlocked 0 superior runes, 2 major runes (for a different profession) and 5-6 minor runes.

During this 3-hour session, I unlocked 4-5 superiors, a bunch of majors, and a crapload of minors.

Next time I will try and keep track of how many runes I get.
Where?! How?! I've been playing since release and I think my total is 130k, + expenses for equipping 2.5 characters. I only have two superior runes unlocked, and maybe five major? Argh...
/me is jealous

Dazzler

Dazzler

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

E/Me

yeah arcane echo + mist form = 32 seconds of nuking pleasure.

Friar Tuck

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

VA

Dragon's Lair Knights

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by salatious
Im not sure what exploit your using but you have to be using something for solo farming with this get up? you have no healing in there so how do you sustain so much damage? and with 2 majors you are losing 100 health
He's botting. Plain and simple. That's where all the big cash comes from. If you stand in Seeker's Passage district 1 you'll see many bots running out of the exit over and over again. It's really pathetic. More money is not going to make you more powerful and you're well on your way toward a permanent ban.