Gold Great Axe Max damage, +15% flat!!!

KitiaraBlueLady

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

E/A

This is for:

Icy Great Axe of Warding
6-28 ice damage
Damage +15%(no restrictions like < health 50%, while enchanted, etc.!!!!)
Armor -10(while attacking)
Armor +6(against elemental damage)


Bidding starts at 80k
Would also be interested in trading straight up for a Sword or Bow of equal value, or other items, runes etc.

Mack The Barbarian

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

The restrictions on the 15% damage is the Loss of armor -10. So you lose 10 armor and sorry to say this is not worth 80k, but u might get it.

KitiaraBlueLady

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

E/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mack The Barbarian
The restrictions on the 15% damage is the Loss of armor -10. So you lose 10 armor and sorry to say this is not worth 80k, but u might get it. Yeah but think about it, -10 armor is much much better than say having to have your health above or below 50%, and anyways -10 armor is trivial at best especially in the later stages when just one piece of armor gives you 85 AL. You see?

Mack The Barbarian

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

+15% when health is above 50% is the best..or 15% when enchanted if u use mending or whatnot is also pretty nice. losing 10 armor does make a difference in damage u receive..try it out. Also whats the requirement on this axe?

KitiaraBlueLady

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

E/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mack The Barbarian
+15% when health is above 50% is the best..or 15% when enchanted if u use mending or whatnot is also pretty nice. losing 10 armor does make a difference in damage u receive..try it out. Also whats the requirement on this axe?
The req is 10

derrtyboy69

derrtyboy69

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Clouds

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Mo/Me

that 10 armor is a huge loss, since your armor doesnt add up to make one stat: (85+85....) each piece of armor gives you 85 protection of what ever body part that it is on. so all of your armor would drop to 75

KitiaraBlueLady

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

E/A

hmmm, you think i could get 40k for it then?

KitiaraBlueLady

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

E/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by charlyb
I offer 30k if you want.
IG : azusa fuyutsuki ( use friend list ) how about 35 and we will call it a deal.

I won't be on this weekend though until sunday night, is that cool?

Hers my IG: Kitiara Blue Lady

hellraisin

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

-10 armor ain't that big of deal. you can stick on +5 armor grip to reduce it penalty to -5 or put a +30hp fortitude grip on it. don't forget, you get to use a shield too, 16 armor + reduce damage mod. this is worth lot more than 35k

KitiaraBlueLady

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

E/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by hellraisin
-10 armor ain't that big of deal. you can stick on +5 armor grip to reduce it penalty to -5 or put a +30hp fortitude grip on it. don't forget, you get to use a shield too, 16 armor + reduce damage mod. this is worth lot more than 35k Im sure charlyb aint happy with you, but I am. Didn't think about the axe grip , good call. I'll add one of those and then it should go for much more.

Thanks hellraisin

wgregory87

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

North Vancouver

TYSN

Mo/W

Ok, you guys are forgetting the point that +5 armor grip has no effect on the loss of 10 armor from the hammer. You're still losing 10 armor no matter WHAT way you take it. If you didn't have -10 armor you could add a grip and get +5 armor. If you didnt have -10 armor you would still have a shield with 16 armor (from front only though). -10 armor is still going to lose you 10% of your armor or more which IS bad. So no, the fact that you can add a +5 grip does NOT make this a better weapon.

bee65n

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

i'll give you 40k. I enjoy collecting weapons

hellraisin

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

armor is relative. what's a -10 when you have 100+ combined and it only gets reduced when you attack? people are making this -10 armor seem to be a huge problem, it's really not. if armor really matters, everyone would be wearing galadiator + 1 piece of knight armor for max protection.

Kdab

Kdab

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

San Diego, CA

BFP

N/Me

Have you read the whole thread? Someone already said that the Armors on each piece doesn't stack.

Ishamael Sedai

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mack The Barbarian
+15% when health is above 50% is the best..or 15% when enchanted if u use mending or whatnot is also pretty nice. losing 10 armor does make a difference in damage u receive..try it out. Also whats the requirement on this axe?
The question is is someone buying this axe for pve or pvp? -10 armor while attacking isn't really that much of a loss for pvp. Even in pve it isn't that much of a loss in certain places as it would help farming go by quicker.

hellraisin

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kdab
Have you read the whole thread? Someone already said that the Armors on each piece doesn't stack. yeah, that discussion goes both ways. who know how it works. all i know is from experience, wearing 1 piece knight boot and rest gladiator, hydra fire spells does 2 less damage. seems to be working for me, at least for some stuff.

wgregory87

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

North Vancouver

TYSN

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by hellraisin
armor is relative. what's a -10 when you have 100+ combined and it only gets reduced when you attack? people are making this -10 armor seem to be a huge problem, it's really not. if armor really matters, everyone would be wearing galadiator + 1 piece of knight armor for max protection. You're not getting the point. If you have 100 armor in total and -10 from that. You're losing 10% of your armor THEREFORE suffering from QUITE a bit more damage!. Saying its all relative is ignorant. Without the -10, you would be up to 100 which would be much stronger.

KitiaraBlueLady

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

E/A

Does anyone know if it is -10 only when you are actually swinging the weapon and attacking an enemy, as opposed to -10 while you are engaged with an enemy, hes attacking you and you are about to attack or have just attacked? If it is the former and godwilling it probably is then I couldn't see this being that big of a hindrance. Basically what I am saying is an enemy would have to strike you the exact time you are striking him or another enemy. Furthermore I am wondering how often this happens!

Ensign

Ensign

Just Plain Fluffy

Join Date: Dec 2004

Berkeley, CA

Idiot Savants

Easily the best PvP axe in the game. I'd happily give you 40k for it. Of course most of your market is the PvE crowd that drools at big numbers and is scared away by anything with a minus sign. PvP players get to use PvP weapons which really dries up your market.

But, yeah, I'll take it at that, or maybe we can work out a trade. Let me know, and take care.

Peace,
-CxE

trackxyj

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

In this case, 10 armor ---> 15.9% damage, and ... as a tank, when will you NOT be attacking? Anyway, you won't be using an axe at all if you read the guide already.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...ide-id1156.php

The table above shows:
While you'll take the same damage from physical damage with 60AL wearing the Master's Set will give you 65AL or 8.3% less damage from all elemental sources (91.7-100 = 8.3). However, the 75AL you'll recieve with +vs. a specific element means you'll take 22.9% less damage (77.1-100 = 22.9) but only against one element, the remaining three will be borne at full damage. The Master's set, then, takes 15.9% more damage against a specific type of elemental damage but 9.05% less against all the others when compared to a specific elemental set. (Armour values are exponential. 65AL vs. 75AL is the same as 60AL vs. 70AL. 84.1-100 = 15.9)