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Kaos the Korruptor

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

LongIsland New York

Gods of Korruption

W/Mo

18 Jun 2005 at 21:01 - 1

I did a search for Guild War player guilds ( Tryed to get the primer guild for free ) and I came across this site. I couldn't believe my eyes!!

The Blatent cheat/hacker/exploit guru's (no pun intended) website staring me right in the face.

This is on the opening page:
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I posted this here since it appears that the Dev's seriously read these forums.
Just wondering if they have anyway of making the Creeps that offer things like this on a website take the site down. or pay some kind of fine, or Both.

I Would really like to know since it appears that the major exploit that was just fixed yesterday that resulted in a couple hundred accounts being banned, might have gotten that exploit and MANY others from this site.

Please Post feed back and on this Thread and some one please get a Dev here to read it. Maybe we can get the masterminds behind this sort of thing to stop, and we can get on with our regular playing schedual again.

DarrenJasper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

18 Jun 2005 at 21:06 - 2

There are sites like that for every single successful MMO on the market, you name it. They all claim to have super-secret ultimate exploit strategies for collecting a billion gold a minute.

It's a hoax. I'll admit I bought into one, briefly, when I was young and stupid, and I'm willing to bet it was as bogus as any of the ones you'll find today. The exploits are either months old and long fixed, don't work, or never pay out what they claim to. The rest of it is crap ripped off from info sites and the official guide. I don't think ANet has any way of nailing these guys legally but frankly, they don't need to.

Porkchop Sandwhiches

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fishing Village in Wizard's Folly

R/

18 Jun 2005 at 21:07 - 3

With a game where most things are easy to achieve, this amuses me.

ManadartheHealer

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Awaiting GW2

W/

18 Jun 2005 at 21:07 - 4

People who use exploits are morons

Exploits, hacks, cheats, etc. are illegal to use in GW, but I do not think they can touch the site because of this

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarrenJasper

There are sites like that for every single successful MMO on the market, you name it. They all claim to have super-secret ultimate exploit strategies for collecting a billion gold a minute.

It's a hoax. I'll admit I bought into one, briefly, when I was young and stupid, and I'm willing to bet it was as bogus as any of the ones you'll find today. The exploits are either months old and long fixed, don't work, or never pay out what they claim to. The rest of it is crap ripped off from info sites and the official guide. I don't think ANet has any way of nailing these guys legally but frankly, they don't need to.

Site is not a problem

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

18 Jun 2005 at 21:08 - 5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaos the Korruptor

I posted this here since it appears that the Dev's seriously read these forums. Just wondering if they have anyway of making the Creeps that offer things like this on a website take the site down. or pay some kind of fine, or Both.

We read all the forums, and thanks for sharing this information. Just for your own information we did not ban a couple hundred accounts yesterday. We did not even ban a couple of dozen accounts. Seriously, we banned a very small number, those who really far across the line, and that's that.

Thanks again for the info. If you find others, you can also submit to support.guildwars.com, if you like.

Zfactor

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

NYC

Freelance

Mo/E

18 Jun 2005 at 21:09 - 6

Doesn't look like they are doing anything illegal to me... They are not giving programs to DoS attack the servers (or at least not on the front page), they are not giving out programs that break the law, just the EULA/ToS of ANet -- which they are not bound to outside of exercising the exploits in game. the EULA/ToS is not a law, its an agreement made when you use the product of ANet (their servers).

Raralith

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

18 Jun 2005 at 22:47 - 7

im sure the devs have an account there and check out anything that seems somewhat viable. mostly bs though, as someone else stated above.

LoneDust

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

19 Jun 2005 at 00:43 - 8

Can someone who has a lot of money sign up for that site and post the content here?

Adaria

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

Wayward Wanderers

E/Mo

19 Jun 2005 at 00:52 - 9

Even if I had millions i wouldn't waste a single penny on this junk...

It's obviously all just a crock to get money, and I bet people buy into it too...

What a nice way to scam people of money eh? Oy...

Red Locust

Site Contributor

Join Date: May 2005

19 Jun 2005 at 01:18 - 10

lol yeah, the ironic thing is that ANet almost certainly has a subscription to that site and is fixing all the stuff posted on there as soon as it comes in. We've seen how fast exploits/farming spots are getting killed as soon as they become popular, even with people trying to not say what/where they are on GWGuru and other fansite forums. Probably someone on those underground forums running his mouth about every new bug and arenanet jump on it immediately.

Mountain Man

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

N/E

19 Jun 2005 at 03:36 - 11

Nice. Just go ahead and link to the site while you're at it. A little free-advertising is sure to get your point across.

Magus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

19 Jun 2005 at 03:47 - 12

Quote:

Ruin Video Guides: We include our exclusive video guides that show how to quickly farm multiple ruins such as Superior Vigor’s. Our Ruin video guide alone lasts over five minutes. Many of these ruins are selling for $30-40 each on ebay. Even one would easily pay for a one years subscription to Guild Wars: Underground subscription.

That site sure seems *really* credible with its "ruin" guide.

Kaos the Korruptor

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

LongIsland New York

Gods of Korruption

W/Mo

19 Jun 2005 at 10:43 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mountain Man

Nice. Just go ahead and link to the site while you're at it. A little free-advertising is sure to get your point across.

Well just a little FYI for you there I didn't post it here and link for free advertizing

, I put it here so the dev and the other powers that be can look at it and see if they can force that webmaster to take it down.

=HT=Ingram

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Anchorage Alaska

Haz Team [HT]

R/W

19 Jun 2005 at 10:51 - 14

trust me a rep from the alpha team is in their site just to see what they are saying...

Kaos the Korruptor

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

LongIsland New York

Gods of Korruption

W/Mo

19 Jun 2005 at 11:54 - 15

Here is yet another site where you buy your way to an unfair advantage
url censores
Isn't this type of thing ilegal?
Isn't the sale of online or Intellectual property such as In game gold, and Items against the law ?
Can't the company that these people are making a proffet off of do something about this like sue them or force the websites that do this to close?

I would really like to know.

! Let the Glory of The Gods of Korruption Live Forever!

Silmor

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2005

19 Jun 2005 at 12:05 - 16

How about we stop posting links to these sites to avoid giving them free publicity? This breed needs only ten suckers to earn enough to encourage them to continue.

Terminal

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Vocal Minority, R.I.P.

Mo/Me

19 Jun 2005 at 12:16 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManadartheHealer

People who use exploits are morons

QFE. The more I read from this guy the more I find that he's said what i've been on the verge of saying all along.

DrSLUGFly

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

European Server or International

19 Jun 2005 at 12:33 - 18

intellectual properties... copyright infringement...

Quote:

Play Guild Wars Without a Box: This allows you to play a version of Guild Wars without ever purchasing the game.

the question is, is it worth the time and money to pursue? I think that if they teamed up with companies like Blizzard and the other biggies, the could certainly put together a well funded task force devoted to taking things like this out.

Principa Discordia

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2005

England.

19 Jun 2005 at 12:39 - 19

STOP linking to those kinds of site here. Forward the URL to the Guild Wars support page instead.

Kaos the Korruptor

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

LongIsland New York

Gods of Korruption

W/Mo

19 Jun 2005 at 14:38 - 20

I'm sorry about that. I didn't think there would be a problem, I was just trying to get the attention of the devs here, and to try and get an answer to my original question. which was is there anything Anet/Nc Soft can do about the those offender?

Again sorry for any inconvienence I may have caused.

! Let the Glory of The Gods of Korruption Live Forever!

Dax

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

19 Jun 2005 at 18:18 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porkchop Sandwhiches

With a game where most things are easy to achieve, this amuses me.

Exactly.

But I think these sites are a scam. If they actually have exploits on thier site
I guess on the positive side, they are helping the devs with qa testing because all the exploit they find can be brought to the attention of anyone willing to pony up the money....

Spark

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

19 Jun 2005 at 20:00 - 22

Quote:

Isn't this type of thing ilegal?

No, it is merly against the EULA. This means that they can ban your account but they have no legal footing to do anything in court.

FengShuiBundi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Blue State

K A R M A

Mo/Me

20 Jun 2005 at 01:23 - 23

Meh, let the idiots pay money to get ahead in an online game... They're losing a lot more in life. Hopefully they have to download a "hack" for the game, and in the process their account is stolen and given to a person who will get money from it or use it properly.

Sorry, I'm just fed up with the masses of morons and idiots who inhabit this planet. They DESERVE what's coming to them.

Dax

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

20 Jun 2005 at 01:56 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by FengShuiBundi

Meh, let the idiots pay money to get ahead in an online game... They're losing a lot more in life. Hopefully they have to download a "hack" for the game, and in the process their account is stolen and given to a person who will get money from it or use it properly.

Sorry, I'm just fed up with the masses of morons and idiots who inhabit this planet. They DESERVE what's coming to them.

I'd be inclined to agree.... who said something about a fool and thier money? PTBarnum?

Saerden

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

20 Jun 2005 at 15:41 - 25

The sites (gold sellers, account sellers, exploit sellers) are not wrong in a moral or legal way.

There is a reason why game companies avoid them as best as they can. Or join them, look at sony.

The current US government has no interest in online gaming. The only way to stop it would be to lobby.

Without special laws helping the companies (which is true for every other aspect of life as well

) they would just get a bloody nose. They may shut down WeLeveLj004ca$$.com, but they need a reason: they sell intellectual property. Wait they dont sell it. They dont sell the gold, they sell the time it takes to get said gold. Sure they break the EULA but who cares? EULA =! law.

So if they claim that its illegal to sell your time to get the gold / stuff (the intellectual property thing may not work in court, so you need a reason), they themself CLAIM that it has a value. Have fun paying compensation to 100.000 users after a server crash. Sure your not allowed to sell it, but it STILL has a value. Guess how many of them will sue?

Great Gjl

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

20 Jun 2005 at 15:55 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

We read all the forums, and thanks for sharing this information. Just for your own information we did not ban a couple hundred accounts yesterday. We did not even ban a couple of dozen accounts. Seriously, we banned a very small number, those who really far across the line, and that's that.

Thanks again for the info. If you find others, you can also submit to support.guildwars.com, if you like.

While I appreciate what you're doing, you should make yourself a bit more unequivocal about details like these.

Also, is anything being done about the ebaying of ingame items/accounts? If Anet are against botting and farming then they ought to get rid of the main reason for people doing it (RL Cash).

Kaos the Korruptor

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

LongIsland New York

Gods of Korruption

W/Mo

18 Sep 2005 at 12:45 - 27

Bump.
This topic still hasn't been aswered yet. the last post just before this one is still open and has No resolution.

Tactical-Dillusions

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Grimsby, UK

R/

18 Sep 2005 at 14:32 - 28

I assume the vast majority of botters have been eliminated with the introduction of keys. I don't think there is a problem in that area now.
The only bots left are the ones spamming "wu qi nu xi blah blah" and the random invite hunting party bots.
Not such a serious threat IMO.

What courses of action ArenaNet takes on bots i.e. investigations, tracking is a matter of their own business and nobody outside of ArenaNet gets confided in.

Why people want to pay for pretend items and gold is beyond my understanding. ******g idiots.

"WTT my pretend money for your real money"

fubar121

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

9Th layor of hell

The Butchers of Ascalon [BoA]

R/Me

18 Sep 2005 at 16:09 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrSLUGFly

intellectual properties... copyright infringement...

the question is, is it worth the time and money to pursue? I think that if they teamed up with companies like Blizzard and the other biggies, the could certainly put together a well funded task force devoted to taking things like this out.

Correct me if Im wrong but is'nt Anet made of of exblizzard developers?
I know from read various threads and other sites that they have had quite a few developers leave blizzard for anet.

BLIZZARD BLOWS

<--- Just my opinion though.

Tactical-Dillusions

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Grimsby, UK

R/

18 Sep 2005 at 16:39 - 30

Quote:

Originally Posted by fubar121

BLIZZARD BLOWS

<--- Just my opinion though.

Oh c'mon! You are obviously forgetting about Primal Rage!

Me and my dad used to have a blast on that for hours and hours. All that gore and those secret combo's. I'm sure there was something in the manual that stated "just try to press lots of buttons to find some secret moves"

IMO Anet is composed of the best elements of blizzard. I just wonder if the PR characters would ever make it into the 3-D world of Tyria. I wish.

Yeah, i know they were basically dinosaurs but the skills and battle tactics are pretty much the same.
Sauron had a skill like cry of frustration, diablo had phoenix, vertigo was a W/Me, blizzard was a water ele.

You are of course entitled to your opinion, unless of course my post has changed your mind?

Teh Azman

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

I Used Charm Animal On Your [MOM]

Me/R

18 Sep 2005 at 18:43 - 31

Animate Thread Fiend anyone?

Ah, Primal Rage, I remember that! I used to play it in the arcades when i was like 6 all the time! Didn't know that was blizzard...But anyway, thats one of the many things thats messed me up so much to this day