Selling Guild Membership - Illegal?

Sol Invictus

Sol Invictus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Tyranny of Choice

Me/N

This has got to be against the Terms of Service: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName=WDVW

The gist of it is that "Sissy Boys" is selling guild membership to their GW guild on EBay, which being an in-game asset of Guild Wars, reasonably constitutes as property belonging to ArenaNet.

Thoughts?

King of Fools

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

south korea

Angels of Anarchy

W/R

publicity stunt imo.

Jak o

Jak o

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2005

I thinks its a bigger offence calling themselves the top american guild

And at the same time making it sound like it takes any real skill to win HoH's.

Ollj

Ollj

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Im not that deep into the Terms of service and license agreement, but I see no problems with such.

Is says you can not sell accounts.
Is does not prohibit to sell virtual goods or invitations to whatever.

I bet theese guys have a Webserver or Chatserver to pay.

Nightslayer420

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2005

isnt that the truth

Itbegins

Itbegins

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

A Van Down by the River

Best Rapper Ever[DMX]

Mo/E

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName=WDVW


Guild Wars Collectors Edition: 79.99
Extra Headset: 19.99
New Video Card from Newegg: 189.99
Bidding to be in a "Renowned as America's Top Guild" :PRICELESS



that has got to be the funniest thing ever and i believe i read somewhere that Anet does not condone any form of selling anything for actual money.

Jormund

Jormund

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2005

Michigan

I wouldn't be surprised if anyone accepted into the guild either gets kicked right back out or is never allowed to play in any battles with them.

Allowing people to purchase a spot in a guild, how low can you go?

Jak o

Jak o

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2005

Pretty low apperently

Adaria

Adaria

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

Wayward Wanderers

E/Mo

I have NEVER seen this guild listed as winning HoH and I play GW ALOT, this is... ... disturbing to me actually...

InvaderGIR

InvaderGIR

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

I actually saw them win the HoH once or twice when I was on. But personally, I think that Idiot Savants guild seems more impressive.

Ludic

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

[XoO]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jak o
And at the same time making it sound like it takes any real skill to win HoH's.
Well, it must, because I've never been able to get into a group that can do it. I've been close, but then the group I was playing with got bored with the game and moved on to other games.

Caco-Cola

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

College Station, TX

Kansas City Hotsteppers. Hawt!

Like someone said in another thread (and this one pretty much) it's gonna be hilarious when/if someone buys that thread.

Purchaser: Hey guys!
sB: *silence*
P: How's it going! We gonna tombs tonight?
sB: *silence*
P: Uh...so maybe some GvG?....nothing? Well agiht, cya'll later. Maybe we can get some tombs together (logs off)
sB: Moron.

free4all

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Caco-Cola
Like someone said in another thread (and this one pretty much) it's gonna be hilarious when/if someone buys that thread.

Purchaser: Hey guys!
sB: *silence*
P: How's it going! We gonna tombs tonight?
sB: *silence*
P: Uh...so maybe some GvG?....nothing? Well agiht, cya'll later. Maybe we can get some tombs together (logs off)
sB: Moron.
hahahaha so funny

CAT

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

KOREA

Slash Rank[DeeR]

R/Me

How do we know its even the sissy boys selling it

Stev0

Stev0

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Halifax, NS, Canada

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sol Invictus
Calling themselves the Sissy Boys and coloring their capes pink would probably get under the skin of quite a few of my gay and lesbian friends. It's not politically correct.
Gimmie a break.

Caco-Cola

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

College Station, TX

Kansas City Hotsteppers. Hawt!

Yah taht's kinda stretching it Sol.

But a lot of companies do claim all right sto ALL virtual possessions in the game which would include the guild (so basically Anet would own your guild and you would be renting it).

Not sure if that's how Anet phrases it but it's how OSI/EA did, SOE did, and Blizzard soooo yah.


So basically yah, selling a membership on ebay without giving Anet a cut is illegal.

Synncial77

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sol Invictus
Calling themselves the Sissy Boys and coloring their capes pink would probably get under the skin of quite a few of my gay and lesbian friends. It's not politically correct.
Ya know, to take that as a personal jab is taking our oversensitive culture to an extreme.

That name in no way implies anyone's sexual nature. Pink has always been seen as a docile colour and "unmanly". Sissy also pretty much means "unmanly".

Would you be okay with it if their capes were green?

Xellos

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2005

No Idea

Hey, they are probably the top tombs team in the game, considering not alot of top teams even plays tombs anymore :P Their right in a sense. Big fish in small pond.

Red Locust

Red Locust

Site Contributor

Join Date: May 2005

haha, that made me laugh. most probably a joke.

Jak o

Jak o

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ludic
Well, it must, because I've never been able to get into a group that can do it. I've been close, but then the group I was playing with got bored with the game and moved on to other games.
Sorry about that, I shouldn't have said it takes no skill. It does take skill, and the average group wont win in HoH. But guilds competing at the top of the ladder shouldn't have any problem winning in HoH's, and you can't really base being a top guild on that. So what I meant was winning HoH is irrelevent when trying to figure who is the top guilds.

Edit: Yes, it also made me laugh, and I would sure hope its a joke, cause it is pretty silly. But lets see if someone will sink even lower and actually bid

Xellos

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2005

No Idea

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jak o
Sorry about that, I shouldn't have said it takes no skill. It does take skill, and the average group wont win in HoH. But guilds competing at the top of the ladder shouldn't have any problem winning in HoH's, and you can't really base being a top guild on that. So what I meant was winning HoH is irrelevent when trying to figure who is the top guilds.

Edit: Yes, it also made me laugh, and I would sure hope its a joke, cause it is pretty silly. But lets see if someone will sink even lower and actually bid
But Holy Buddha almost won it with henchies....

Nash

Nash

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2005

Sweden

The Cornerstone

Idiotic guild. I wouldn't even want to join for free.

Chaynsaw

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

I wouldn't diminish the Sissy Boys' accomplishments in PVP. Winning in the Hall of Heroes isn't just as simple as like, flashing your tag and instigating such widespread panic that your enemies quit in despondent recognizance of inevitable defeat...

But paying for membership? Come on, sBs.... :P

Sol Invictus

Sol Invictus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Tyranny of Choice

Me/N

Sissy Boys does nothing but exploit the pillars where they can't be hit with projectiles or melee, while casting gale, keeping the opposing hero down. Oh yeah, they're real "accomplished".

Nash

Nash

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2005

Sweden

The Cornerstone

Winning in Hall isn't hard when you have 3 teams trying. Most other guilds are scrambling together 1 team. Doesn't make them good. They're just many.

theclam

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Who cares? If they want to sell guild memberships for tiny sums, to people who will spam guild chat, let them.

Brett Kuntz

Brett Kuntz

Core Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

ahahahahahahaah

Tuna

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Dark Horizons

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xellos
But Holy Buddha almost won it with henchies....
I think he was playing in the middle of the night and uh.. got lucky with timing.

Night

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

BTW why is everyone worried about it being illegal? The only people who have the right to do anything as far making any charges would be ANet. Do I think its pathetic? No. Do I think someone buying that auction to get in? Hell ya. Let some fool or moron purchase it. Who cares?

sama

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

EST

K A R M A

hmm...top american guild huh?

3rd Negative Zero nO 1614 70 9
5th Sissy Boys sB 1559 111 25

Dunno, seems like nO is the better american guild based on record, rating, rank, win-loss ratio, what have you.

is nO selling membership on ebay too? :P

keen

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

sissy boys

R/W

sama is hot and so is n0

oh... we are on top in the n0 sB gvgs =)

our losses have mostly been to drops, or losing to great guilds, so i am not ashamed of very many losses in our record

oh i'd like to address our name... I dont think anyone has ever brought to my attention the possibility of our guild name being offensive. I dont think its a legit concern, but I dont want to offend anyone. We are some sissy boys, what can I say? being a sissy has nothing to do with one's sexual orientation. Unfortunately, you may have a different meaning for sissy in your mind, but I dont think most people share it. I just hope for a crowd that wishes the world to be understanding and accepting of them, they'd be just as accepting of a fun loving group of people, making fun of themselves using a word that is MUCH more often used to describe people that are not gay/lesbian. If you can't live with that, i'm sorry that we offend you =/.

no comment on the topic

Im A Paladin

Im A Paladin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

Treacherous Empire

W/A

Hihi this is Sissy Ranger a.k.a. Im A Paladin on Sissy Boys just dropping in to say hi this is thread is very entertaining

Mormegil

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Im A Paladin
Hihi this is Sissy Ranger a.k.a. Im A Paladin on Sissy Boys just dropping in to say hi this is thread is very entertaining
Nah, you're overestimating this thread.

A supposedly "Top Guild" selling memberships on E-bay is far more entertaining.

keen

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

sissy boys

R/W

games are meant for entertainment

dbgtboy

dbgtboy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

irl

i quit playing

2 low lives actually bid, LMAO

Reibus

Reibus

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2005

Vul isnt a low life just taking the piss

DrSLUGFly

DrSLUGFly

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

European Server or International

Quote:
Originally Posted by Adaria
I have NEVER seen this guild listed as winning HoH and I play GW ALOT, this is... ... disturbing to me actually...
I see them win regularly... They're the only name I recognize because of how often I've seen it. I only know Idiot Savants because of numerous references in these forums... not to say that I'm condoning this... and it's true, it may not even be them doing it.

Mormegil

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Yes, they're undoubtedly skilled, and maybe they're the best american guild around right now. Which is kind of sad, considering their well-known behavioral issues and now their selling memberships on e-bay.

Oh well, you don't expect grown-up people with a real life and little time to waste on videogames to excel, do you?

The Pope

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

This is a joke, not a way of making money. Like a lot of things on Ebay.

keen

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

sissy boys

R/W

well known behavorial issues?!? please give me a break. It is true that a few people may have seen a member talk out of line, but I believe we've taken care of those few instances. People have been cut for their behavior. However, our behavior was never what I would consider a widespread epidemic of trash talking sissy boys. I am going to have to say, that any kind of bad reputation was spread by the usual haters, not by people who actually saw our members being incredibly out of line.

Mormegil, try gettinig to know us before you judge us. We havent' judged you, why judge us?