sumthing about farming...

hmm,i just wondered how chinese farmer can make at least 100k per 12 hrs.
and i played very hard still cant get that much.
i asked some of those, they told me that there is an instance with 2 chests at the beginner of the instance they just go into it and get the 2 chests then come back to town.
wondering what's the place... they just told me they r in the snow mountain.

When people do that, ArenaNet hears about it, checks the logs and removes the chests.

Less features in the game, less free goodies lying around for others and a total ruin of something enjoyable for "free" which is this games great trademark.

How boring to run in and out collecting chests. Alot of skills in that, oh yes.

Anything else that people wish to spoil?

I agree that money is HARD to come by and things cost way too much but hopefully updates will fix this.

In a few months if things aren't more rpg like i fear this game will go the way diablo did

how can you say that?! this game will never turn into diablo for a good deal of reasons.

no super awesome OMG items in the game.
no "magic finding" for these super awesome OMG items in the game.
gold isn't super easy to come by as in diablo.
you can't hack into the game to get these items or gold as in diablo.

compared to diablo, the economy in this game is freakishly good.

ah i remember the days, "trading 40 sojs for a 1.0.7 grandfather"

regarding the OP, i'm afraid telling you the location of these chests would ruin your gaming experience. no sane person would want to enter a mission, get a chest or two, and leave the mission... for 12 hours. if you are that desperate to get gold then just do some manual labor for 12 hours of a day and use the real money that you earned to buy gold off of ebay. at least you will be helping someone build their house or something.

lol this is the best reason.

ive heard this before, think ive found one.
however u dont just walk over to the chest and get stuff, it spawnes a boss on you and 4-5 minions..

and thanks man, if they remove the chest.

With my Monk smiter build, I probably couldn't make 100k in 12 hours, but I could make probably 5k per hour if I really tried. I don't see why it's a problem.

I have no clue how to make 5k a hour- that's the real problem most people doesn't, and those does, is only getting richer and richer.

You used to be able to make 10k+ (not counting runes and rares you might get) an hour doing Riverside. Blessed Gryphons were pretty profitable too. However Riverside is not worth it anymore and Blessed Gryphons are much harder now. I'm sure there's still places though, just might not be right next to down or at the beginning of a mission.

Which means you now need speed and protective stuff to get your character to run past the not-so-good monsters to the ones that both can be solo'ed and are worth solo'ing. Not every melee-only pack qualifies as worth solo'ing with a smite build.

very true. I've been playing for about 2 and a half weeks. the total amount of money I think I have made through the game would be about 100K (Just). I have 27K now, and only a few runes in storage and the things I use to play.

I want to get the 15K armor. I cant see my having it in any forseeable (sp?) future!

SOMEBODY LET ME IN ON THE SECRET!

I actually made enough to buy my 15k armor set in 2 hours by farming flesh golems. The video I posted (paying homage to the first two posters who inspired me) took a bit more than 3 minutes including loot time, getting around 350 a group, 7 groups, 15 times an hour, 2 hours netted me around 70k.

But what you are missing though is the fact that farming flesh golems was not for gold (they don't even drop runes). It was the best way to get skill points, and unlocking items for PvP. The best collector items in the game are by far better than most items you can find. Although gold is nice and shiny, it doesn't unlock items, and unless you buy unid'ed runes, you still won't be unable to unlock it. But besides gold being shiney, it has no real use. Can't buy skill points, can't unlock items with it.

As to what happened to Chinese Farmer, I made her a PvP Air Elemental and I don't regret it. Had to farm to unlock PvP content, sucks like hell, but you really have no other choice.

You want to know the secret though? 15k armor doesnt do anything, stick with the 1.5k armor. Get the collector items around the crystal desert for your weapon/offhand needs. That solves 90 if not 99% of your gold needs. Fashion doesn't matter if your dead on the floor with some monster standing over you.

"Jesus saves by shopping wisely and using double coupons."

The problem with the game is that various people are punished for the exploits, incompetance, and lack of self control of other players.

Diablo II economy was actually pretty good. It had a stable (asides from when new dupes came out) currency. SoJs were the dollar and chippies were the 'change'. Things had actuall values and the whole thing functioned in a pretty realistic way. This games economy is more synonymous with chaos.

You can still farm in the game. it just needs a team of 2 players now, instead of just one, BUT its just as fast as before (twice as fast and divided by 2 players).
Gives like 2-5k in 10 minutes for each of both players.

So far, EXTREME-farming was succesfully fixed.

The fact that SoJs became the major form of currency rather than the game's built in gold currency bespoke a huge problem. So did every other person having a Grandfather, Ethereal Colossus Blade, Windforce, or similar.

I'm not sure which games you guys are playing cause items drop like rain in GW.

Exactly, and NM Andariel actually had the highest drop rate for SoJ and even then, it was highly unlikely she would drop it. I remember spending hours with the drop calculators and getting frustrated as Hades that I had a 1:10000 chance of getting what I wanted.

All this talk about Diablo 2 gives me the creep

Anyways, making 5k per hour is cakewalk... Right now the highest I've seen is 65k per hour. I know many ways of making 5k per hour or more. I don't think nerfing any location with less than 10k per hour farming is worth it. I mean face it 65k per hour is kind of too much, but if you can't farm at all, then how can you buy items and armors? Eg. 15k armors, 100k runes

NOTE: If you can't make 5k per hour, its not because its unfair. Perhaps maybe its YOUR problem.

The economy is a joke in guildwars. In Wow, Diablo, all of those games you have capitalism, just like all major countries have. The economy in guildwars is like some sort of country that has a huge tax. You sell a rune to a rune trader for half the price someone buys it for, that's a 50% tax that you pay for doing business through the rune trader. I don't know of any country with 50% taxes but I'm sure they'd have some riots unless the streets were paved with gold. Not to mention the entire price of the rune is done by a supply and demand code, which is neat and all but you can't really dictate how much something is worth through code.

What else do Diablo and WoW have that guildwars doesn't? In diablo you could join trade game, you knew that when you joined you were only looking to trade, a lot of games were named after the items people were looking for, or selling. This makes trading a lot easier in diablo than it is in guildwars where as you have a billion people spamming the chat. Another thing with Diablo is you can actually pay the price for the item, where as in guildwars prices can go well over 100k, yet you can't trade more than 100 gold. In world of warcraft there's an auction house, meaning any item you want, you can find it there, and at the current price as well with no 50% tax to the seller. The WoW system is currently the best, and the guildwars system is currently the worst.