Next time your in a mission with a monk that is working his butt off, tell him thanks & show him the love!!!
Monks need Love!!
Dizmal
I have ran through this game with my Ranger/Monk & had a great time, but since I started my Monk/Necro I have found some disturbing results. People are just plain mean to monks, I see them everywhere I go wanting Healers! Need Monks, then when you go with them you get screamed at & insulted the whole time because they agrro'ed 15 enemies & you couldn't keep them all alive. One guy is telling me I better get to working or he will kick my "butt" himself............now that pissed me off since I had ran low on energy after a huge fight & he ran right in to the next bunch with no time to recharge. I love gaming & I usually ignore those rageing few that always cry, but the difference between being a Ranger & Monk is disturbing.
Next time your in a mission with a monk that is working his butt off, tell him thanks & show him the love!!!
Next time your in a mission with a monk that is working his butt off, tell him thanks & show him the love!!!
Jwh6913
people are morons I think there should be a requirement for everybody to play as a monk before they do any other characters 
maybe they'd be nicer and less noobish lol
maybe they'd be nicer and less noobish lol
Anarchist_Monk
Exactly! I think monks need a whole lot mroe respect than they are getting now. I don't know if some of u have played as a monk before, but before you go screamin about how ur monk sucks you might want to try it yourself.
Jab
I think the problem is since they are the only profession with any healing spells, basically everyone wants a monk to do one thing , and that's healing. I think An needs to take the load off of monks and allow at least another class to do healing. That is one of the main reasons why I do not have a prime monk since, I'm not the player you want in charge of healing
Ollj
If youre a monk and you join someone that allcaps spams
"NEED MORE MONKS AND TANKS LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!"
your own fault, stupid!
"NEED MORE MONKS AND TANKS LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!"
your own fault, stupid!
Jwh6913
I tend avoid those, but there's also ' hidden' morons that plays like crap and treats monks like crap, but they go " group is looking for a monk" politely and like they're experienced.
BaleFire
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Dizmal
I have ran through this game with my Ranger/Monk & had a great time, but since I started my Monk/Necro I have found some disturbing results. People are just plain mean to monks, I see them everywhere I go wanting Healers! Need Monks, then when you go with them you get screamed at & insulted the whole time because they agrro'ed 15 enemies & you couldn't keep them all alive. One guy is telling me I better get to working or he will kick my "butt" himself............now that pissed me off since I had ran low on energy after a huge fight & he ran right in to the next bunch with no time to recharge. I love gaming & I usually ignore those rageing few that always cry, but the difference between being a Ranger & Monk is disturbing.
|
ive never had any complaints, ever. rather the opposite.
i think uve had some bad luck and met the wrong ppl.
d4nowar
can an admin merge this thead with the "sick and tired of monk abuse" thread? it seems to be exacly the same.
regarding the topic of the post. the way i do things is i shut up and heal. if the people are dumb enough to get themselves killed, then i let them. if the people are dumb enough to get themselves killed again, then i let them again. and if they are dumb enough to leave after i let them die, then i'll go on and finish the mission without them.
of course i'll heal them as best as i can, but it doesn't really work when i spam "I have 3 out of 45 energy!" and they continue on as if i was just yelling.
its like yelling "my left arm is on fire!" to a fireman and having him ignore you because he thinks you are fireproof.
regarding the topic of the post. the way i do things is i shut up and heal. if the people are dumb enough to get themselves killed, then i let them. if the people are dumb enough to get themselves killed again, then i let them again. and if they are dumb enough to leave after i let them die, then i'll go on and finish the mission without them.
of course i'll heal them as best as i can, but it doesn't really work when i spam "I have 3 out of 45 energy!" and they continue on as if i was just yelling.
its like yelling "my left arm is on fire!" to a fireman and having him ignore you because he thinks you are fireproof.
DarrenJasper
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by d4nowar
its like yelling "my left arm is on fire!" to a fireman and having him ignore you because he thinks you are fireproof.
|
That pretty much nails it.
Sir Hammonsweet
I'm gonna use a sports analogy on this one. Monks are like the quaterback of a football team. Sure, other team members contribute just as much on a football team, but when something bad happens, who gets blamed? The QB. Except football players don't say, "GJ ST00PID N00B!!1one!1" That's just one of the things you are going to have to handle if you create a monk. *Inspired to create a monk named Joe Montana....*
Weezer_Blue
When I play healer, which I occasionally have to (have you ever seen "LF Smiter!"?), when people are bastards, I just let them die, and wait a good while before rezing them. If the whole team is full of them, I go with them near the end of the map, then let them die and ditch the group after lecturing them a bit. Yeah. It's evil. I don't care. I'm a jackass by nature, they're just giving me an excuse to bring it out.
Zeroo
People are idiots.
Thats one more reason to play whit henchman.
Thats one more reason to play whit henchman.
theclam
I wish my Monk could find love, but I haven't been very successful finding girl Monks. At first, I found these two hotties, Alesia and Lina, but I soon found out that they...uh..don't really say anything. I'm not having much success with the other girls that I've found. Everytime I try to /makeout, it tells me that I can't. I can't figure out a way to make it work, so the girl Monks get bored and leave. I'm beginning to think that my Monk will never find love in this game, even though he needs it so badly.
King of Fools
i hear the dwarven women are hawt for monks. on a side note, it would certainly add to the whines and rants if everyone had to play monk primary first to unlock the other classes as primaries. do you think a guild called 'beach and moon' would evade the banstick?
midnyte13
I think i love you
Aalric
I have not noticed any particular hatred towards monks. If there is, though, I honestly cannot understand it. Everyone needs a monk.
One thing I will say, though. I have noticed a lot of monks (and this is especially true in the Temple of Ages) being very arrogant and obnoxious. Because they are needed, they think that they are more important than everyone else. So this is not one-sided. I think both sides need to relax, calm down, and remember that it's just a game.
One thing I will say, though. I have noticed a lot of monks (and this is especially true in the Temple of Ages) being very arrogant and obnoxious. Because they are needed, they think that they are more important than everyone else. So this is not one-sided. I think both sides need to relax, calm down, and remember that it's just a game.
Lazarus
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Aalric
...I have noticed a lot of monks...being very arrogant and obnoxious...
|
Perhaps these monks that are giving you trouble are just trying to kill bad attidudes. I have no problem telling someone when they are a being a fool and risking the lives of the party. This is because going into the UW or Fissure and completing the quests takes TIME. Time is worth more to me than anything else in my life. If I am in aparty that is wasting my time, I tell them so. If they refuse to learn the proper tactics and strategies to become successful, I leave. Does that make me arrogant? Maybe, but it also means I have 732,492 XP. I didn't get there by sucking mud, or by staying in parties that cannot work as a team. If you are a good player, I will welcome into my party. If not, I try to help you become a better play. What's wrong with that?
Lazarus
Sting
Well when you have some monks only willing to group if you pay them or just plain arrogent it sets a bad attitude about the whole class, deserved ot not.
Weezer_Blue
Haha... I don't care about bad attitudes. You can whine and moan all you want, but when it comes down to it, your life is in my hands, and I may or may not decide to drop you. If you're a total idiot, I can find a better party without any trouble because I am in such high demand. "Hey! Lets charge into that group of 3,000,000 enemies shortly after a battle that drained all our healer's mana! weee" ... ... ... ... ... "Hey! WTF?! You Suck! Why did we die!? Waaa waaa waaa..."
blkbelt
how about this, how about going into one of those games that say "NEED MORE MONKS!!!" and just let them die and laugh all the while they're screaming at you.
blkbelt
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Aalric
I have not noticed any particular hatred towards monks. If there is, though, I honestly cannot understand it. Everyone needs a monk.
One thing I will say, though. I have noticed a lot of monks (and this is especially true in the Temple of Ages) being very arrogant and obnoxious. Because they are needed, they think that they are more important than everyone else. So this is not one-sided. I think both sides need to relax, calm down, and remember that it's just a game. |
triorph
aye, i've just recently started a new monk char, so far its only happened once, but i had a stone summit crusher attacking me and this person had called on the engineer (who doesn't fight back, so doesn't need to die) i pointed this out and said i'd prefer it if they left engineers till last and i was called a newb, by the end she was calling me a "newb" monk and saying she knows what it takes to be a true monk from beta tests. Anyway i find it funny that they're rushing in from all sides, at one point decide to split up, and the blame still goes on me even though i'm out of mana and getting my divine boon enchantments stripped.
Marc Grahamsworth
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Dizmal
I have ran through this game with my Ranger/Monk & had a great time, but since I started my Monk/Necro I have found some disturbing results. People are just plain mean to monks, I see them everywhere I go wanting Healers! Need Monks, then when you go with them you get screamed at & insulted the whole time because they agrro'ed 15 enemies & you couldn't keep them all alive. One guy is telling me I better get to working or he will kick my "butt" himself............now that pissed me off since I had ran low on energy after a huge fight & he ran right in to the next bunch with no time to recharge. I love gaming & I usually ignore those rageing few that always cry, but the difference between being a Ranger & Monk is disturbing.
Next time your in a mission with a monk that is working his butt off, tell him thanks & show him the love!!! |
I've just started a new monk character and I'm going to be wary of groups that treat their monks like shit
.
EmperorTippy
I just annoy the idiots with vengance look here for what I mean. The context applies a little differently but I think that you can get the idea.
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by EmperorTippy
This is a great skill to use against that annoying idiot who you need to finish the battle but you dont want to survive and be annoying. Me and another monk did this one time we both brought vengance with us and every time the one idiot on the team died one of us would use vengance on him then when it wore off after 30 seconds the other would use vengance when that wore off the fist monks would be recharged an recast and so on for the rest of the level.
The Benifit: First no more DP for the person vengance is used on for the rest of the time. You can stop the idiot who apolgizys (sorry for spelling) to get resed and then continues to be annoying because if he continues with his stupidity you ust leave him dead. Its great fun to watch people fall over for no apparent reason and then wonder what happened. |
Weezer_Blue
Haha... love that skill. *ally dies due to idiocy*. *I res with vengeance*. 30 seconds later. "hey wtf why did I die?!"
EmperorTippy
Run around fissure like this its actually quite fun and as no dp is added half the time you just dont heal the idiots so what if they only kill 1 guy per vengance use it just takes a while.
Fantras
HAHA omg I love it. I used it the other day cause I wanted to keep my elite skill open for Word of Healing, so I left Unyielding Aura at home and brought Vengeance. I used it and the female tank toppled over with all the same questions we've seen before.
"WTF!"
"Wow, i didn't even get a DP for that death"
"What just happened?"
You'd think she just got visited by an alien or something. Oh yeah, I was also called a noob for letting someone die, because it seemed to them that the two monks were only healing one person. Sigh. It's part of the territory.
"With great power comes great responsibility."
"WTF!"
"Wow, i didn't even get a DP for that death"
"What just happened?"
You'd think she just got visited by an alien or something. Oh yeah, I was also called a noob for letting someone die, because it seemed to them that the two monks were only healing one person. Sigh. It's part of the territory.
"With great power comes great responsibility."
Bast
For even more fun with Vengeance, Ctrl-Click it, and there's always someone who will say "OMFG DOTN USE VENGENANCES!@#!@$!@!!!!!!!!1"
MaglorD
Meanest thing I did as a monk:
Stupid warrior chided me for using Smite Hex on her. I stopped healing her and instead focussed all healing on the melee mesmer(I know, not a smart build), who was her friend btw. Stupid warrior kept dying as a result and after endless dying and probably -60 dp she left. Then I announced...."my my what a weak warrior" and the melee mesmer says, "I agree and I'm a mesmer tanking and didn't even die"....ROTFLMAO.
My monk receives quite a bit of love though...
Stupid warrior chided me for using Smite Hex on her. I stopped healing her and instead focussed all healing on the melee mesmer(I know, not a smart build), who was her friend btw. Stupid warrior kept dying as a result and after endless dying and probably -60 dp she left. Then I announced...."my my what a weak warrior" and the melee mesmer says, "I agree and I'm a mesmer tanking and didn't even die"....ROTFLMAO.
My monk receives quite a bit of love though...
00039
I usually defend the monks by saying something along the lines of "Monks are not your slaves" as long as the monks themselves are not asses
MaglorD
Seriously though, I've said it before and I'll say it again...most non-monks are too reliant on the monk to survive...all professions have some form of damage reduction and/or healing...but few players know how to use them effectively.
The two professions which are closely tied are monk and warrior though since most of the healing required is by the warrior(tank) who is supposed to take the most damage. This is one reason I loathe playing in groups with more than two warriors since they will all be taking too much damage for me to heal effectively.
The two professions which are closely tied are monk and warrior though since most of the healing required is by the warrior(tank) who is supposed to take the most damage. This is one reason I loathe playing in groups with more than two warriors since they will all be taking too much damage for me to heal effectively.
EmperorTippy
If you think thats fun this is even better. Use Unyielding Aura and whenever the person gets annoying just turn it off. They fall over dead. Its really great when you have the guy who just cant help aggroing. Whenever hes about to aggro turn Unyielding Aura off and he wont aggro anything They learn quickly this way.
They learn quickly this way.
Fantras
Yeah, or say something like, "I feel someone's gonna die in 3....... 2........ *bam*"
Malchiel
Well most monks want to be treated like princess. I feel sorry for those who aren't. Personally I have met many monk players who're not only terrible, but also rude, and has no sense team work. These monks also leave at the first sign of trouble, creating trouble in the team.
Personally I don't care about monks in PvE, the henchies can handle their jobs better than most PCs I know. Moreover they're guaranteed never to quit, never to bitch, and the rests.
Personally I don't care about monks in PvE, the henchies can handle their jobs better than most PCs I know. Moreover they're guaranteed never to quit, never to bitch, and the rests.
Fantras
I know I like to be treated like a Princess.
EmperorTippy
^^to Malchiel as fantras couldnt wait 2 miniutes.
someone doesn't play a monk.
The good monks dont want to be treated like princesses but when you say I have 2 of 40 energy and then the idiot goes and aggros 3 groups well we get pretty bitchy after they say its our fault that they died.
And I never leave my team.
If you think that the henchi healers are good you have never been on a team with a real good healer.
EDIT: Dumb Fantras beat me.
someone doesn't play a monk.
The good monks dont want to be treated like princesses but when you say I have 2 of 40 energy and then the idiot goes and aggros 3 groups well we get pretty bitchy after they say its our fault that they died.
And I never leave my team.
If you think that the henchi healers are good you have never been on a team with a real good healer.
EDIT: Dumb Fantras beat me.
Malchiel
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by EmperorTippy
^^
someone doesn't play a monk. The good monks dont want to be treated like princesses but when you say I have 2 of 40 energy and then the idiot goes and aggros 3 groups well we get pretty bitchy after they say its our fault that they died. And I never leave my team. If you think that the henchi healers are good you have never been on a team with a real good healer. EDIT: Dumb Fantras beat me. |
And yes there're good monks, but that's only like what 30-20% of the monks out there?
My experience is that, it's better to stick with healer hench, unless absolutely necessary.
EmperorTippy
^^
I agree but luckly I'm in a good guild with lots of good monks so I don't have to worry very much.
As for the number of good monks out their its probanly closer to 10% as lots of people just made monks and they suck with them.
I agree but luckly I'm in a good guild with lots of good monks so I don't have to worry very much.
As for the number of good monks out their its probanly closer to 10% as lots of people just made monks and they suck with them.
Fantras
I think the same thing about Tank Henchman if it makes you feel any better.
Myodato
Comments about my healing prowess doesn't bother me - I know how good I am. It does however help me to identify the noobs, which is great for prioritising heals fo rthe greater good of the team.
I just wish people would learn that whether a monk is good or bad is irrelevant. If he couldn't keep you alive the first time you charged head-first into a large group, then chances are he won't the second time either when you've 15% less hit points. Too many people are like goldfish in this game; continually swimming head first into the side of the bowl and saying wtf?!
I just wish people would learn that whether a monk is good or bad is irrelevant. If he couldn't keep you alive the first time you charged head-first into a large group, then chances are he won't the second time either when you've 15% less hit points. Too many people are like goldfish in this game; continually swimming head first into the side of the bowl and saying wtf?!