Rune Traders Driving down prices!!! Suppior runes for 125G!!!!

Wa$d

Wa$d

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

Well i when and farmed up some good runes, Some Suppior, 2 major and a couple of minor, i go back to town to sell what the price is at the trader, so i dnt overprice and such, and when i get there ALL of my Suppior runes are going for 125G and i can sell then for 25G!!!! this i have to say is so unfare considering that before this runes would have feched a hight price. I mean this is great if you want to buy but if you want to sell you can! I bet this is them getting back at farmers . I hope a Anet will do somingthing about this.

ManadartheHealer

ManadartheHealer

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Awaiting GW2

W/

Nearly every single major and superior rune has a very low price, while many minors have higher prices

But I sort of like it this way. Now I can get major runes for my characters with spare change

Luggage

Luggage

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

sweden

"Supply and demand" - look it up.

I'll buy that sup vigor of you for a plat if you like

drowningfish999

drowningfish999

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Awakened Tempest [aT]

I agree the rune traders definitely cut the value of superior runes. I was so excited to get Superior Fast Casting, untill I found you could buy them for like 280...

Dumachum

Dumachum

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

na

R/E

Gold = still as worthless as it was 1 month ago now just on the opposite extreme.

Eclair

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Prices have been dropping a lot lately. Superior Vigors are going for 66k now. I wonder if its because demand has dropped now that most people have the runes they want, or that a new farming place has been found?

Sovetskeey

Sovetskeey

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Edmonton, AB

Gotta Be Four Twenty Somewhere

Nah, the rune trader was a great idea. I was getting so tired of the absolutely ridiculous prices people were starting to charge for higher level runes. I hate when farmers cry because they can't gouge prices now (my new favourite term, thanks whoever posted it ). Not all of us farm for hours on end and not all of us have 300k sitting in our storage boxes.

Wa$d

Wa$d

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sovetskeey
Nah, the rune trader was a great idea. I was getting so tired of the absolutely ridiculous prices people were starting to charge for higher level runes. I hate when farmers cry because they can't gouge prices now (my new favourite term, thanks whoever posted it ). Not all of us farm for hours on end and not all of us have 300k sitting in our storage boxes.
I am not one of the ppl that has 300K in the bank (wish i did), but it would be nice to see prices raised at the traders for suppior and major runes.

Zfactor

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

NYC

Freelance

Mo/E

Welcome to the word of the nurf. Those who had the time to benefit before a nurf get all the money. As for the rest of us, basically get get flipped off by ANet

StandardAI

StandardAI

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2005

K A R M A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wa$d
Well i when and farmed up some good runes, Some Suppior, 2 major and a couple of minor, i go back to town to sell what the price is at the trader, so i dnt overprice and such, and when i get there ALL of my Suppior runes are going for 125G and i can sell then for 25G!!!! this i have to say is so unfare considering that before this runes would have feched a hight price. I mean this is great if you want to buy but if you want to sell you can! I bet this is them getting back at farmers . I hope a Anet will do somingthing about this.
What? That's nonsense, every action arenanet makes is absolutely perfect. To accuse them of anything else you should be banned from the game, and from these forums. Now, If you have a legitimate complaint like the price of ale going up, or the ale icon messed up. Gaile will quickly address the issue, but unless you have a real issue to discuss please don't post these absurd fallacies on the forum.

Wa$d

Wa$d

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by StandardAI
What? That's nonsense, every action arenanet makes is absolutely perfect. To accuse them of anything else you should be banned from the game, and from these forums. Now, If you have a legitimate complaint like the price of ale going up, or the ale icon messed up. Gaile will quickly address the issue, but unless you have a real issue to discuss please don't post these absurd fallacies on the forum.
im sry this has nothing to do with ale . i will aleify my next post

IceD'Bear

IceD'Bear

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

Awoken Myth [MYTH]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wa$d
im sry this has nothing to do with ale . i will aleify my next post
You need a sarcasm detector

Perishiko ReLLiK

Perishiko ReLLiK

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2005

Divine Guardians of the Soul (Soul)

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zfactor
Welcome to the word of the nurf. Those who had the time to benefit before a nurf get all the money. As for the rest of us, basically get get flipped off by ANet
It's all a part of the joy of playing a fresh mmorpg... seriously, this isnt nearly as bad as many other mmorpgs have been like in the begining... personaly i would hate making a character in a mmorpg, and figuring out that after a year and a half of my work was all for nothing, because my character is incredibly weak, and a non-wanted part of parties/guilds...

At least what they're doing is trying to equalize the economy, which i'm sure a million people have complained about the inflation... the inflation was going up at an insane amount with Any rare items... at least now, if i want an illusionary weapon mesmer, i can easily do it for about 500 gold... gives me a playing chance ^.^

Too bad i bought a major rune of vigor right before the rune traders came into place.. they were going up, and now all of a sudden they dropped like mad. ^.^

free4all

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Yeah, Minor Absorption and Minor Vigor used to go for 1k about a week ago, and now they are hardly 300.

Myrkwid

Myrkwid

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/Me

I was online at the time the patch with the runetrader got streamed. It was pretty weird. First I thought "Nice idea, makes it easy to trade runes without burning vast amounts of time in LA's tradechannel", but then I noticed something strange. I kept opening and closing the trader's window to get updated information on which runes are available at which price and about every 30 (?) seconds he got an inventar full of runes. People were buying like crazy, so the number of runes available decreased rapidly again, but every ~30 seconds his inventar showed every rune of any quality. Prices were a joke at that time, I doubt anybody was selling any of his superiors for 25g, but they kept popping up in his inv and getting bought.
Anybody else noticed it?
Bug? Feature? Some unknown substance in my coffee hampering my perception at that time? I guess I'll never know

dargon

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

R/

The rune trader auto-populates his stock. He doesn't rely upon what people have sold him. Same for the new XP Scroll trader. If you watch him, he'll briefly sell out, and then repopulate his stock.

Ellestar

Ellestar

Munchking

Join Date: Mar 2005

Russian Federation, Moscow

Ladder to Hell (ATM playing with Rus Corp)

You know, i'm buying unidentified superiors for 20k-25k, vigor for 100k. Try to sell whatever is demanded...

BrandonIT

BrandonIT

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Dallas, TX

Tribal Instincts

R/E

More power to the rune traders. I'm actually glad they're here. I feel they are doing exactly what they're supposed to do, bring down the prices of the runes so massive farming is not necessary to get them.

Big Fat Duck

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

mesmer runes are the most unwanted things in this world .. 25 gold for superior fast casting lol

Wa$d

Wa$d

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by IceD'Bear
You need a sarcasm detector
dude u need the detector!! i was using sarcasm!

Ollj

Ollj

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

My superior runes only cost 200 gold
and they beat air eles whose runes cost more than 10 times as much.

ImBobNewbie

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

TX

[NES] Nintendo Powered

E/Mo

Yes, I can see why a lot of people are mad about the prices. I think it is ridiculous that the rune trader can sell superiors for 120g. I think this a bit extreme so I am not selling anything besides minors to the rune trader. On the other hand, since runes arent worth as much, the price of nice weapons has grown exponentially. Have you noticed theres always several weapons going for 200-500K on forums now? Anyway, weapons are the new way to make money now.

exa dust

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

LoTD

R/Mo

no offence ment but this is a PvP game, the farmers who make money on do so because people will pay,and buying runes from a trader is stupid, does it unlock that rune for your acc? no so its worthless, yea it may seem like gouging, but those "farmers" were PvPers who were trying to get a step ahead, its the stupid PvE'ers who fail to realize what unlocking and PvP means that drove prices up

NightStalkerXT

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by ImBobNewbie
Have you noticed theres always several weapons going for 200-500K on forums now? Anyway, weapons are the new way to make money now.
I suspect that the retarded rune prices had something to do with the addition of the rune trader, and the retarded prices of weapons could end up making Anet add something to the weapons traders. It is quite possible that they are against greedy people setting the games economy and would much prefer to control it themselves.

Alex Weekes

Alex Weekes

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

Brighton, UK

Quote:
Originally Posted by dargon
The rune trader auto-populates his stock. He doesn't rely upon what people have sold him. Same for the new XP Scroll trader. If you watch him, he'll briefly sell out, and then repopulate his stock.
Actually, that's not true. What you are seeing is caused by a separate feature. All traders receive 100% of their stock from players.

Mr. Matt

Mr. Matt

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

R/Mo

I've been noticing a lot of tweaks and new things. I just created a new character and took it through pre-searing. I found a rune! In pre-searing! I've taken numerous characters through pre-searing and never encountered a rune before. But there it was, in broad daylight. Sure, I didn't have an expert salvage kit to get at it until after the Academy, but still...

Not just that though. I've also noticed that some of the weapons given as rewards in pre-searing are actually a little better, and with special abilities. Sure it's a bit annoying that my first Ranger character went through with a normal bow, lacking the advantages the same bow now gives, but I don't really care. And then after the Academy, I arrived in Ascalon City (I hadn't been there for some time), and found a Rune trader! Amazing.

And you know what? I think it's a good thing. Anything to kill the growing trend of elitism and let everyone experience the game. Runes still aren't cheap to newer players, remember. So far I have no problem with any of the patches they've put out. And I think someone should tell them, if they didn't already know, that most people in-game seem to like them too. It's only on forums like this that you encounter people complaining in such a vocal way.

Dreamsmith

Dreamsmith

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Minnesota

Beguine Guild [BGN]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Myrkwid
Bug? Feature? Some unknown substance in my coffee hampering my perception at that time? I guess I'll never know
One thing that should be noted. Whenever you successfully drag a rune to the buy box without getting an out of stock message, you can then ponder it as long as you like before buying it, and be guarenteed that you'll get it.

What does this mean? It means that when you drag a rune to the buy box, it gets removed from the trader's stock. If you then hit cancel, it returns to the trader's stock. Thus, runes will be going into and out of the stockpile constantly, even if no one is buying or selling them. Every time you it pull into that box, you "pull it off the shelf", so no one else can see it. If it was a simple price check, you just "put it back on the shelf" when you hit the clear or cancel button.

Thus, if there's only a handful of something in stock, it'll be constantly going "out of stock", only to be "replenished" a few seconds later, even if no one is buying or selling, just looking.

kungfumonkey2

kungfumonkey2

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Virginia

ACE~Ancient Combat Experts

E/Mo

Smart perception Dreamsmith

I feel the rune trader is just fine. Instead of having to hunt around the trade channels hoping to catch someone selling in LA or Ascalon. I just went and spent a measly 125g for my Superior Earth run. Very convienant. Although the rune is not unlocked, it is able to server the purposes for the character I have it on. I was able to experiment with my build more quickly.

Personally myself, I think someone should combat the high prices. By farming their ass off and then selling everything they get to the vendor. It would be fun to see Superior vigors for sale for 3-5k. Then how would you people prove you are 1337 if everyone had a Super Vigor? Maybe by the skill of you and your team? Like the way the game was intended to be played?

Aug

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Maryland

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by NightStalkerXT
I suspect that the retarded rune prices had something to do with the addition of the rune trader, and the retarded prices of weapons could end up making Anet add something to the weapons traders. It is quite possible that they are against greedy people setting the games economy and would much prefer to control it themselves.
A.Net isn't controlling the economy. Only so far as in determining the drop rate of those items. Well, they do set the minimum value, but it's lower than the value of the unsalvaged armor.

The market was simply made more accessible to the general public. That's all A.Net did. No longer is the wealth distributed among the few people that enjoy working the in-game player trade system. Now the trade system is automated, and you're rewarded for what you bring into the system, not for being a 'middle man'.