Crashing Gfx Card 6600 GT

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23 Jun 2005 at 06:51 - 41
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Originally Posted by Dirkiess
A couple of things worth trying going by other threads and posters that have had success with these options are as follows.

1. Up the AGP Aperture size to 256 and then 512. Ok, you might be wondering why, but I remember an article I read some time ago, that also said increasing the size to double or Quadruple your Graphics Card memory size can actually help with performance. Also, the guy that did this, had a similar card to yours if I remember right, with 128mb. He increased it and it fixed his problem.

2. The other option is to do with your DRAM timings. You will need to check the make and model of your Ram and then look for the dram timings on the web. Then add these into your Dram Timing options. You will need to change the Timings option from auto to manual/custom and then enter the details in the correct settings given in the Bios.

They are just two options that you can try for now.

Only try one at a time as changing too many things at once, never shows you what was actually the cause of your problem.


the DRAM timing seems like a good idea BUT!... i cant change it becuse my bios dosent save changes .. :/ ive posted on the asus forums about this becuse every time i try to save and reboot after saving stuff in bios it hangs in black screen and dose nothing. so i think im going to give in and let a pc tech play with it and see if he comes up with anything. becuse i need my cpu problem fixing to. (cpu under clocked at 1.1 should be 1.7 and able to overclock to 2.1) thats what it was befor this mothorboard was installed and i dont think its a folty motherboard. but we will see

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23 Jun 2005 at 08:47 - 42
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Originally Posted by kuji
the DRAM timing seems like a good idea BUT!... i cant change it becuse my bios dosent save changes .. :/ ive posted on the asus forums about this becuse every time i try to save and reboot after saving stuff in bios it hangs in black screen and dose nothing. so i think im going to give in and let a pc tech play with it and see if he comes up with anything. becuse i need my cpu problem fixing to. (cpu under clocked at 1.1 should be 1.7 and able to overclock to 2.1) thats what it was befor this mothorboard was installed and i dont think its a folty motherboard. but we will see
Sounds like you have a duff Bios chip or the Battery has CMOS battery has died.

Why not try changing the CMOS battery and then Reprogram the BIOS again. Maybe try an older BIOS level.

Could be, that if you updated your BIOS, it didn't go through properly and you have corruption on it.

If the BIOS chip is faulty, that would have to be changed.

Either way, if you want to try these or just get a techie friend to look at it, good luck.

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23 Jun 2005 at 14:28 - 43
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Originally Posted by Dirkiess
Sounds like you have a duff Bios chip or the Battery has CMOS battery has died.

Why not try changing the CMOS battery and then Reprogram the BIOS again. Maybe try an older BIOS level.

Could be, that if you updated your BIOS, it didn't go through properly and you have corruption on it.

If the BIOS chip is faulty, that would have to be changed.

Either way, if you want to try these or just get a techie friend to look at it, good luck.

well ive tryed to flash my bios 3 times
firs time was form the bios it came with to the newest there is out on the offical site 10.09 or summin ... now ive just flashed it again to the beta virsion thats out and it exaculy the same so the bios flash went through fine

the battery is fine becuse i took the old battery from my old mother board and put it in the new one becuse i thought of the battery already i have a horrid feeling its the bios chip thats messed up . and that would be really really lame. i already have some one willing to lok at my pc whos an IT tech teacher. so he has resorses to test parts to be honest ide love to see if putting another cpu in changed anything and if that cpu worked . but im having big problems with moving my computer around i dont have a car or any means of transport other then the bus routs and yah i dont fancy halling this ton weight on a bus thay would probly charge me for it lol

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23 Jun 2005 at 20:58 - 44
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Originally Posted by kuji
well ive tryed to flash my bios 3 times
firs time was form the bios it came with to the newest there is out on the offical site 10.09 or summin ... now ive just flashed it again to the beta virsion thats out and it exaculy the same so the bios flash went through fine

the battery is fine becuse i took the old battery from my old mother board and put it in the new one becuse i thought of the battery already i have a horrid feeling its the bios chip thats messed up . and that would be really really lame. i already have some one willing to lok at my pc whos an IT tech teacher. so he has resorses to test parts to be honest ide love to see if putting another cpu in changed anything and if that cpu worked . but im having big problems with moving my computer around i dont have a car or any means of transport other then the bus routs and yah i dont fancy halling this ton weight on a bus thay would probly charge me for it lol
I don't think it will be your Processor as you say, you can't save any changes in the BIOS, and that isn't affected by the processor.

Why not check to make sure your Bios chip is properly inserted in the slot. Just gently push down on the chip and see if it goes down any further. You'll notice if it does, as there will be a slight movement and you'll feel a small click into place. About the best way I can explain it.

Have you tried going back to your Original Bios? Also, how do you run the Update, through windows or using a Dos Floppy Boot disk?

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23 Jun 2005 at 23:40 - 45
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Originally Posted by Dirkiess
I don't think it will be your Processor as you say, you can't save any changes in the BIOS, and that isn't affected by the processor.

Why not check to make sure your Bios chip is properly inserted in the slot. Just gently push down on the chip and see if it goes down any further. You'll notice if it does, as there will be a slight movement and you'll feel a small click into place. About the best way I can explain it.

Have you tried going back to your Original Bios? Also, how do you run the Update, through windows or using a Dos Floppy Boot disk?
ive used the windows on the floopy one on reboot and dos tryed them all. and ive tryed going back to the first bios

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24 Jun 2005 at 08:49 - 46
bump hope some one comes up with a solution

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24 Jun 2005 at 09:37 - 47
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bump hope some one comes up with a solution
You need to get your Mobo looked at.

As you said, you were going to get your Tech Teacher to look at it, you'll just need to find a way for him to check it out.

Do you live with the parents or are you college student out on your own?

Either way, you must have someone that with a car that can drive you there.

Not much more we can do, as it sounds like a BIOS issue that can't be resolved here.

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25 Jun 2005 at 02:51 - 48
maybe it's because Guild Wars was optimized for ATi cards? o.O Probably not though...

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25 Jun 2005 at 02:57 - 49
You say you have funny lines all across the screen? Thats a screen problem. Must be and old computer.

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25 Jun 2005 at 08:33 - 50
can i just say that it's probably ur psu because mine was going wrong with a 350w psu then i upgraded to a 600w now im fine dnt crash atall apart from conection problems so meh jus get a new one

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You say you have funny lines all across the screen? Thats a screen problem. Must be and old computer.

yes my computers old my mobos the newst in the asus AI seres my gfx card a 6600GT new sound card new ram . only thin in here thats OLD is my cd drives and ther enot even pluged in right . and the psu is hardly old.

and yah im in college still.. and atm no one can gimme a lift. :/ i know what i half to do but its almost inpossaable to >.<

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26 Jun 2005 at 20:46 - 52
Hi Yes i was having the freeze crash thing with my new 6600gt , The only way i can stop pooter crashing is to keep the cpu below 100 deg , so it was off with the case side & on with the desktop fan at full speed , i think its a guild wars thing they send a prog down the line & if the numbers come back wrong your out of there :P . So i now have a big hole in side case with a clip fan half in the case, it works for me , will post pic of needed

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26 Jun 2005 at 23:14 - 53
If people are going to try and help this guy, will you at least read the whole thread before attempting to post a solution that doesn't even relate to the problem this guy is having.

The problems he is having seem to relate to the fact he can't do anything with his BIOS. He can set settings, because they don't save. He has flashed the BIOS many times, and they don't work or get locked and he can't adjust anything to set up the hardware correctly.

So please, read before you post.

ANyway, a thought come to mind while writing this.

With regards to your jumpers on your Mobo, have you checked that you don't actually have the jumpers setup incorrectly for the CMOS jumper to keep clearing the BIOS each time you reboot the machine??

Also, check any jumpers you have located on your Mobo to make sure they are all set to the correct jumper settings related to any CPU, Memory and any possible hardware options that your Mobo may have.

Just possible the jumpers may be what is causing your BIOS problems.

Hope this helps.

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27 Jun 2005 at 11:58 - 54
It definitely sounds as though a) the bios chip is borked and that would explain the underclocking of the chip and inability to save settings, rma the board if you can, that would be the easiest option of get a new bios chip, a new bios chip will only cost you a few quid/dollars.

The problems that your experiencing this can really only be the cause..

However though regarding the screen corruption, I would put this down to the PSU, afterall it sadly is a Q-tec, and before anyone flames me for saying this, they have a very low 12v rail, check asus probe and see what the rails are.....I would say if you can afford it get a new one, I got a hiper typeR 420w for only 40 quid and it's as stable as......

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27 Jun 2005 at 16:24 - 55
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Originally Posted by corcesca
maybe it's because Guild Wars was optimized for ATi cards? o.O Probably not though...
No, because I have a GF6 6600 GT as well and I don't have any problems.

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28 Jun 2005 at 12:13 - 56
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Originally Posted by Dirkiess
If people are going to try and help this guy, will you at least read the whole thread before attempting to post a solution that doesn't even relate to the problem this guy is having.

The problems he is having seem to relate to the fact he can't do anything with his BIOS. He can set settings, because they don't save. He has flashed the BIOS many times, and they don't work or get locked and he can't adjust anything to set up the hardware correctly.

So please, read before you post.

ANyway, a thought come to mind while writing this.

With regards to your jumpers on your Mobo, have you checked that you don't actually have the jumpers setup incorrectly for the CMOS jumper to keep clearing the BIOS each time you reboot the machine??

Also, check any jumpers you have located on your Mobo to make sure they are all set to the correct jumper settings related to any CPU, Memory and any possible hardware options that your Mobo may have.

Just possible the jumpers may be what is causing your BIOS problems.

Hope this helps.

unfortunetly i dont realy no much if anythign abou tthe jumper configeration on my mobo the thought stang to mind but at first glanse i couldent even find them let alown no were thay should be set to. but its a very worthy salution and hopfuly the one im looking for.

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28 Jun 2005 at 13:00 - 57
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unfortunetly i dont realy no much if anythign abou tthe jumper configeration on my mobo the thought stang to mind but at first glanse i couldent even find them let alown no were thay should be set to. but its a very worthy salution and hopfuly the one im looking for.
Two ways you can find this out.

1. They should be located in your Mobo Manual and they mention the locations of all the jumpers and what they should be set to, related to the hardware you have installed.

2. If you don't have the Manual, go to the website of your mobo and search for the Downloads section and then download your Manual from there.

Also, I would search through the Mobo Website and see if they have any type of support related issues with yout Mobo and what may be the cause of the BIOS problems, in case there is a fault of somekind with that Mobo.

Hope this helps you out a little. Manuals always come in handy for this.

Just remember, when adjusting Jumpers, have the PC switched off and turned off at the wall, but leave the plug connected to the wall socket, so you are earthed against the PC Tower. Touching components could short something while doing so, if you don't follow this simple rule.

Good luck in finding your manual.

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28 Jun 2005 at 14:01 - 58
kuji: Its almost impossible for me to read your post. I usually help in the Tech section, but it's really VERY difficult to me (spanish) to understand you without no commas, periods and changed letters.

You should read this:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=2447

Thank you

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28 Jun 2005 at 14:12 - 59
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kuji: Its almost impossible for me to read your post. I usually help in the Tech section, but it's really VERY difficult to me (spanish) to understand you without no commas, periods and changed letters.

You should read this:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=2447

Thank you
Totally understand your frustration and the same thing occured to me. However, being English I can sort of understand the language, but it's quite possible, people that are posting on here, are either foreign to English and do the best they can or actually have some form of Reading and Writing dissability, dyslexic or something along those lines.

As for those that really do use AOL and Mobile Phone short language writing, yes, they should be deleted until they can learn to write properly.

All in, it's good for them to learn the ability in how to actually use the English language.

If those people where English is not there first Language and do a bloody good job at attempting to write in English, I hold my hat out to you.
For those that can't be bothered to write in English, shame on you.

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29 Jun 2005 at 08:19 - 60
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or actually have some form of Reading and Writing dissability, dyslexic or something along those lines.

thats my problem not big on spelling and wrighting thats odvious. nothing i can really help at myage now..

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29 Jun 2005 at 08:21 - 61
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thats my problem not big on spelling and wrighting thats odvious. nothing i can really help at myage now..
Thats ok. Won't stop me from trying to help you out.

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29 Jun 2005 at 11:15 - 62
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thats my problem not big on spelling and wrighting thats odvious. nothing i can really help at myage now..
In that case I retract and say sorry. But that doesn't keeps me from not understanding you. Il'l try my best and re-read the thread.

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In that case I retract and say sorry. But that doesn't keeps me from not understanding you. Il'l try my best and re-read the thread.
no problem

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29 Jun 2005 at 12:38 - 64
this in factseemsto be more of a motherbored issue it seems then anything else altho my PSU seems to be slighty lacking in power.

the asus website and the VIA area site all the issues with crashing and things are not rare thay seem very common if i had the money ide swap this mother bored out asap but i dont

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29 Jun 2005 at 13:15 - 65
I HAD the same problem. I however called my tech support up (Alienware in this case) and at first they gave me some BS about reinstalling the lastest nVidia drivers so i did that and of course it didnt work. So then i got a 'specialized' agent to work with me and he made me take a look at the video card and we found that the dual fans it had, had actually SHATTERED so it had no cooling ppower at all (we just got this comp...Alienware=Bad Shipping ) So like i think in the firts psot? he said keep xtra fans on it and it works for me

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I HAD the same problem. I however called my tech support up (Alienware in this case) and at first they gave me some BS about reinstalling the lastest nVidia drivers so i did that and of course it didnt work. So then i got a 'specialized' agent to work with me and he made me take a look at the video card and we found that the dual fans it had, had actually SHATTERED so it had no cooling ppower at all (we just got this comp...Alienware=Bad Shipping ) So like i think in the firts psot? he said keep xtra fans on it and it works for me
Did you have a Bios that doesn't save any of the changes you have made to it?

That is the main part of the OP's problems, but thanks for the info.

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29 Jun 2005 at 14:56 - 67
in case you guys didn't know... there is a HUGE difference in power supplies. there are several different version numbers of ATX (2.2 i believe is the latest revision) and several inconsistencies in power consumption have been fixed. when purchasing a power supply you should ALWAYS make sure it complies with at least ATX 2.03.

also, the manufacturer of the card makes quite a difference in the performance and specs of the card. you need to do temp readings and keep that baby under 50C.

as far as BIOS settings are concerned, i've encountered several BIOSes which require you to press F10 after changing ANYTHING. so if you change a setting, press F10 directly afterward and see if that keeps it. if not, we've run into several problems at work where the solder joints on the CMOS were f-ed up. either the pads were removed or the stuff inside the casing was messed up (vertically mounted CMOS sucks). check solder connections around the battery and all around the BIOS chip.

Conador

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29 Jun 2005 at 16:21 - 68
also forgot to mention...i have a NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT...im not big on computers...is that neraly the same as his or is it abig difference

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29 Jun 2005 at 17:09 - 69
Sounds like the PSU. Most PSUs don't even use 100% of its capacity. 350w is way too low. AND IF this not an issue, then its the drivers. The 77.72s suck, so you need to find a stable downgrade. A lot say that the 71.89s work but you would probabaly be better off with the 76.44 betas. The 77.18 betas are also good.

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29 Jun 2005 at 17:11 - 70
heh, the tehc support team told me to use the 'latest' drivers - the 77.72

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I have a Geforce 6600GT and the latest 77.xx driver set will always give me lockups. Older drivers work perfect for me.

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30 Jun 2005 at 08:02 - 72
Right Oki if i half to repeat my self AGAIN.

First off i dotnt have a 350 PSU its a 400 q-tec the manafaturer may be the problem i know this.

Its NOT a mobo battery problem.
its NOT a GFX card problem its not getting to hot becuse i just have 3 fans pointing at it and my genral case temp is not over 30
as far as i know its not a jumper problem i just checked my manual and theres no jumpers that do shit like this.
its NOT the bios chip not inserted wrong.

im still thinking slightly a PSU problem but i dont no if the fact that if my PSU was underpowred that ide have the problem with underclocked CPU.

still open to ideas

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30 Jun 2005 at 09:12 - 73
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Originally Posted by kuji
Right Oki if i half to repeat my self AGAIN.

First off i dotnt have a 350 PSU its a 400 q-tec the manafaturer may be the problem i know this.

Its NOT a mobo battery problem.
its NOT a GFX card problem its not getting to hot becuse i just have 3 fans pointing at it and my genral case temp is not over 30
as far as i know its not a jumper problem i just checked my manual and theres no jumpers that do shit like this.
its NOT the bios chip not inserted wrong.

im still thinking slightly a PSU problem but i dont no if the fact that if my PSU was underpowred that ide have the problem with underclocked CPU.

still open to ideas

Well, as you say, you can't save your settings in the BIOS, so I'm thinking you have something major wrong with your Mobo. Whether it's a lose BIOS chip or not, there is something wrong with the BIOS.

If you can't change anything in the BIOS and have those settings save, then it's faulty and will cause you all sorts of problems with your hardware setup.

So, either you get this looked at, or you're going to go around in circles.

I see no point in continuing this until you get that BIOS sorted first.

It's like trying to get a car running. There is a problem with the Oil Sump, but no matter how much oil you put in, it's still going to pour out. SO unless it gets fixed, the card won't run properly. Or the worst, You will blow up or damage parts of the car.

In otherwords, get it fixed or dmg the rest of your PC.