(not sure if this is the right place for this... oh well)
I've recently made a monk. I don't want to brag, but I concider myself a pretty good monk. I heal when I am supposed to and run when I am supposed to.
My problem is that I don't spend the 50 hours doing all of the quests available so by the time i got to Riverside, I was level 13, when everyone else was 18-20.
Since I am a monk, I got in a party almost instantly, and it was balanced. But when they noticed my level the leader said "uh oh, he's level 13. we are better off with a henchman."
The rest of the team was smart I guess and they all yelled at him for saying that, and we finished the mission with no problems. At the end I even got compliments for my healing abilities.
I was just wondering if anyone else progresses through the game at a relatively lower level than everyone else. I mean, at least ascending actually seems worth it to me.
Replies would be helpful.
too low of a level?
d4nowar
arnansnow
I was a R/Me and throughout the entire game, until the three ascension quests, it seemed like I was a lower level than everyone else. So you weren't the only one.
Although at ascension, it doesn't matter what level you are, but you will have less skills, because you did less missions
Although at ascension, it doesn't matter what level you are, but you will have less skills, because you did less missions
Sekkira
Well sometimes it can mean the difference. Mainly because with levels come attributes, maybe if you try to heal someone higher then you, it may not work as well as it would with someone equal level then you.
It really depends though, so I don't mind taking someone in the party who might be a few levels below me.
It really depends though, so I don't mind taking someone in the party who might be a few levels below me.
Kalus
I had similar problems with my current main, a me/n. I was level 15 when I ascended, and typically 3 or 4 levels below everyone else in a given zone.
In terms of missions, I did the mains and skill quests, and that's it.
Level really doesn't matter, IMO. It was actually a nice way to screen for noob groups. =)
In terms of missions, I did the mains and skill quests, and that's it.
Level really doesn't matter, IMO. It was actually a nice way to screen for noob groups. =)
KaPe
It's not that big deal, unless level difference is really significant. You will heal for slightly less - but then again, you might have better runes, who knows? And if you focus *only* on healing, your atributes will be high enough to compare with higher levels who spread their points a bit.
Minwanabi
On my third character, a r/n, I made it to the dunes at level 10, and it's pretty much impossible to get a pickup at that level unless you're a monk, because I did all the previous ones with henchies.
Eclair
I'd be somewhat wary of lower level characters too, not because I automaticaly assume they suck, but because they have less hp =P
d4nowar
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It's not that big deal, unless level difference is really significant. You will heal for slightly less - but then again, you might have better runes, who knows? And if you focus *only* on healing, your atributes will be high enough to compare with higher levels who spread their points a bit.
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I couldn't spam my lower heals like I normally did, but that didn't stop me from just using my other skills and skill combos.
Oh, and by the way, I've picked up all of the skills that are useful. So that means I have done specific skill quests and bought certain skills.
Edit: Didn't see the post above this. I did have a little bit less hp than everyone else (60-80 less at most), but I'm not a tank, so I just stayed behind and did my job.
Eclair
Well, might not matter much if you're a monk, because they're so rare. However, since I have no way of knowing anyone's skill level, I'd always take a higher level class than a lower level class if I had the choice. Unless of course, it was obvious the higher level player was an ass and/or incompetant.
Winterclaw
I usually take my time and have the opposite problem. My warrior was espically a little slow because I needed to spend so much time farming charr hides.
Ollj
its imple:
When youre a monk, you lead the team!
Everything else asks for being abused!!!
Then:
- if one asks for more monks, kick him. (then say your team "asking for monks = asking for a kick")
- if one tells you what you have to have in your team, kick him.
- if one uses allcaps, kick him.
- if one makes a comment on someone elses level, kick him.
- if one asks stupid questions, like doing the bonus in dragons lair, kick him.
- if one is a class you have enough of in your team, kick him.
- if you lost the mission for one not listening, kick him!
- if one is just ignorant or selfish, kick him, if you like to.
Once you have sorted out all the annoying idiots you will have GREAT gameplay!
When youre a monk, you lead the team!
Everything else asks for being abused!!!
Then:
- if one asks for more monks, kick him. (then say your team "asking for monks = asking for a kick")
- if one tells you what you have to have in your team, kick him.
- if one uses allcaps, kick him.
- if one makes a comment on someone elses level, kick him.
- if one asks stupid questions, like doing the bonus in dragons lair, kick him.
- if one is a class you have enough of in your team, kick him.
- if you lost the mission for one not listening, kick him!
- if one is just ignorant or selfish, kick him, if you like to.
Once you have sorted out all the annoying idiots you will have GREAT gameplay!
RaK
The henchmen are technically the level breaker. It shows the average level normally, so the other people probably farm too much.
My R/Me who is lvl 17 is still in Elona, I can never find a party, and won't try to. That was the only reason I've given up on that character because people like to critize the point that I am a :
-Ranger
-Low Level
-Pet Carrier (pets are awesome if you know how to use them, and no, they aren't tanks or meat shield, they can actually inflict a lot of degen and conditions.)
My R/Me who is lvl 17 is still in Elona, I can never find a party, and won't try to. That was the only reason I've given up on that character because people like to critize the point that I am a :
-Ranger
-Low Level
-Pet Carrier (pets are awesome if you know how to use them, and no, they aren't tanks or meat shield, they can actually inflict a lot of degen and conditions.)
KaPe
"pets are awesome if you know how to use them, and no, they aren't tanks or meat shield, they can actually inflict a lot of degen and conditions"
They do? Usually I just see them attacking enemies while occasional using "mauling"(bears seem to be fairly popular with R I party with). They have conditions attack? And are bears the best anyway?
(actually, these questions are serious)
They do? Usually I just see them attacking enemies while occasional using "mauling"(bears seem to be fairly popular with R I party with). They have conditions attack? And are bears the best anyway?
(actually, these questions are serious)
Sekkira
Doing all the quests, missions and bonuses will get you to level 20 waaay before the desert.
RaK
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Originally Posted by KaPe
"pets are awesome if you know how to use them, and no, they aren't tanks or meat shield, they can actually inflict a lot of degen and conditions"
They do? Usually I just see them attacking enemies while occasional using "mauling"(bears seem to be fairly popular with R I party with). They have conditions attack? And are bears the best anyway? (actually, these questions are serious) |
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/skill.php
Read all of the skills (or glance), you'll see that most skills listed are pretty useful.
I'll list a few skills that are pretty useful (Knowing that you are intrested)
Feral Lunge
Ferocious Strike
Melandru's Assault
Maiming Strike
Scavenger's Strike
xaanix
The highest level people in the group are generally the biggest newbs. They're high level because they're not efficient about their gameplay. They either repeated the same missions over and over because they kept failing them, or they did every quest in the game, ignoring the fact that most of them are totally pointless.
I would have grouped you.
I would have grouped you.
wgregory87
The first time through the game I was way too high (Monk)
Now I'm going through Borlis Pass with a level 10 Warrior (Same level as the henchmen I think). Most people that are much higher than you.. it is quite possible it is their first time through the game. And its NOT neccessary. If your team is skilled, the level hardly matters, to some point at least.
Now I'm going through Borlis Pass with a level 10 Warrior (Same level as the henchmen I think). Most people that are much higher than you.. it is quite possible it is their first time through the game. And its NOT neccessary. If your team is skilled, the level hardly matters, to some point at least.
Big Fat Duck
i was a level 15 warrior doing the ascension missions, i ascended at level 16 , but it was a real bitch getting a group that didnt care about your level
Eclair
Well, a lot of people first time through like doing all the quests =P
I'm on my third char and I still like doing all the quests XD
I'm on my third char and I still like doing all the quests XD
Zeru
Bah, I like taking lower leveled people more than higher leveled ones; shows they know what they're doing generally. The stupid people are very biased about levels; when I'm lvl 10 and around lvl 16-18s I get a lot of denials :P
ManadartheHealer
I find that on my newer characters, my average level in later areas is going down. The only side-quests I do are the ones that offer skills, and they have to be skills that I like 
Just because I'm a lower level in Kryta, does that make me a newb? Of course not!
Just because I'm a lower level in Kryta, does that make me a newb? Of course not!
Eclair
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Originally Posted by Zeru
Bah, I like taking lower leveled people more than higher leveled ones; shows they know what they're doing generally. The stupid people are very biased about levels; when I'm lvl 10 and around lvl 16-18s I get a lot of denials :P
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In the end you still don't know if they're good or not, but at least the higher level person can take more damage =P
MaglorD
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Originally Posted by Eclair
There are just as many people who tagged along with a friend/guildmate and got to where they are at without knowing what they're doing.
In the end you still don't know if they're good or not, but at least the higher level person can take more damage =P |
I like telling them to do the Ascension missions at level 1.
Zeru
Yeah but if that's happening there's a very high chance they've already completed the game. Most people aren't rushed through the game their first time around =P
But yes, that is true, nothing wrong with high lvl tanks =P
But yes, that is true, nothing wrong with high lvl tanks =P
d4nowar
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Originally Posted by Sekkira
Doing all the quests, missions and bonuses will get you to level 20 waaay before the desert.
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Note: Got to all three of the Ascension missions with the monk, but only gained about 1 level doing Riverside, Sanctum, and clearing the areas to the missions. People that are level 20 going into the desert must have tons more hours than I do. My monk still only has 7 or 8 deaths, and I spent a bit of time pvping in Ascalon when I started it.
I'll check the hours of gameplay I have on it sometime tomorrow. You people should tell me about how many hours of gameplay it takes you to get to the desert.
The undead Mesmer
i did d,alesio seaboard with a level 10 necro when i finnaly found a team.
they al said go away low level noob and things like that the mission started and everybody got himself killed really.
i had to rez the monk because i whas the only one alive
they where between level 14 and 16.
andthey didnt knw i had the best animate horror/minion/fiend skills.
at the end one of my horrors laughed in their face
im the best 
they al said go away low level noob and things like that the mission started and everybody got himself killed really.
i had to rez the monk because i whas the only one alive
they where between level 14 and 16.
andthey didnt knw i had the best animate horror/minion/fiend skills.
at the end one of my horrors laughed in their face
im the best