People do not listen!!

Hello,

I am not trying to sound like an arse here but please people, when you invite a Monk to your party for a mission, if the Monk says "sec, I need to set my skills for healing THEN BLOODY WAIT UNTIL THE MONK SAYS OK READY" before you enter the mission.

I usually run with henchies so I set up Smithing, if I deceide to accept an invite to a party then YOU NEED TO WAIT TILL I AM SET UP FOR HEALING!!

Well I fell much better now

I hope I did not offend anyone as that was not my intention.

Take care and please listen to your monk

This was annoying when I was playing monk as well...people just don't understand the concept

Yep. This is why you either

A) Make sure everyone has teamspeak and you can freakin' cuss them out to wait for you, or intimidate them with a scary sounding voice.

B) If the other monk is sensible, he/she will share the same feeling as you. One time our UW party had a warrior who would not listen, so the other monk and I made sure that we could let our energy recharge. After a few stops, he apparently got impatient and ran off and died. We refused to res him, but the other monk gave in and ressed him. At that point I left.

Ditch them, especially if it's a PvP pickup group. If they can't be bothered to read what the party members say, you know it's going to be a group that lacks coordination, and if that's the case, there'll be a lot of DP in store for your party in the near future.

Honestly, I don't know why people even bother to say things in team when they lack the ability to read.
"Rez me you idiot" "NOOB U SHUD HAV REZZED MI" [One line above in the chat box, So and so is using resurrection signet on whoever.]
I don't know how many times I've had people berate me for not using my resurrection signet on them, when up in the chat history, I'd already used it, and quite often on the person complaining. (Coincidence? I think not. Inability to listen to team members often leads to behaviour that results in death.)

I'd once heard illiteracy statistics that seemed a bit unbelievable for the US, but now I'm not so sure they're wrong: If you can read, but you neglect to use that skill, then are you really any better than somebody who can't?
So many people can talk/write, but fail in the reading and listening department, it's sad.

One of the most recent random arena matches I did:
Me - "I'm a smiter, not a healer."

[Warrior that thinks he's superman rushes into the enemy team far ahead of us and dies]

Warrior - "WTF monk, why didn't you heal me!?!?"

Surprisingly, we ended up winning that match, but I ditched the team after it was over anyway. Let someone else take my place and deal with the warrior.

Always remember that you have no obligation to go out of your way to compensate for others who refuse to do their share of the workload. If that means they don't work together as a team, of which listening is an integral part of, then you don't have to be there. You don't have to be an elitist to require of that of others. It's not because they are a couple levels behind you, don't have the very best armor, or are missing a couple skills: It's because even if they DID have all of those, they'd still fail miserably.

yesterday while playing monk, we got ganked pretty much by Jade Bows. So i'm lying death, the other monk fighting for his own life as well as the other remaining three. Pointlesss as the damage came faster then the heals. But one must die with honor. And then the following happend:
our dead lying necro sees a purple item lying that is reserved for him: "REZZ ME MONK"
he shouts 8x in a row, explaining that he 'else can't get the purple'. i told him to shut up else i won't heal him the next try. worked wonders.
another great idea was using the res spell with energy upkeep. if he is annoying, push the button: you own his life, is at your mercy. that idea from a fellow monk somehow appeals to me.....

For aggro noobs, I plain don't res them unless they appologize and say that they will not do it again. Infact, I ask for an appology. I often get "It was lag", "res me noob asshole" and "you shouldnt have let me die!". Only once out of countless times has one actually appologized and said he will not do it again. It seems that the majority of aggro newbs are immature morons.

The other thing I hate is when people ask me to heal better. I then have to explain to them that I am a protector, so my only form of healing them (divine favor and divine boon) is very limited. They say "protectors suck then why dont you heal", in which case I respond something along the lines of "a protector monk is very powerful, given that you have another monk in your party to heal, and you listen to me when I say "PROTECTOR Monk LFG" in caps, so that you don't expect me to heal."

The last thing I hate is when somebody "supermans" the enemy and expecting me to keep heals up on them, although they don't listen to "My mana is 3 out of XX" before running into combat. I could keep them alive with the skills I bring, but I choose not to, since they will cause more problems than they will solve.

Basically, if someone pisses me off and does not listen, I will not raise them (leave it to the rest of the party) and I will not cast any enchantments on them. I'm fine with people just not being good, but being able to listen to the party leader is a very simple concept that everybody should be able to handle.

BRILLIANT. Although you're screwed if you want to ressurect a worthy teammate. (Don't have a normal Res, or else you are wasting two slots intead of one)

heres a hint. setup your skills before accepting invites.

hmm brilliant

*covers head and awaits flaming*

That might be a valid suggestion if you didn't care at all what your team brought.

Multiple instances of the same enchantment or hex on the same target won't stack.
Skills that buff melee-ers, or trigger on physical damage (Like Mark of Pain) are not that useful in a caster heavy team. Elemental mods on weapons ruin it as well. Elemental =\= physical damage.

A team should always query it's members prior to entering a mission, and you should always consider the skills and professions of other members in your team when choosing your own.

Monks are much sought after. Sometimes you'll enter a town and be immediately "snapped up". So, I suppose you could refuse to join a group before re-setting your skills. But then sometimes, you don't know you need to reset your skills until you've joined a group.

I think the point here, and it's an interesting one, is that Guild Wars requires team play. This is a new concept for most gamers, who may view their teammates as props for their own glory. (Internal dialogue: I'm the one making this happen here. These guys need me.) The idea that you must work together and communicate in order to succeed is not going to come easy, if at all, to many.

Call me a retarded idiot, but I just realized:

People who need to make a thread to proclaim "people do not listen!" as if it were a scientific breakthrough are really kind of hopeless, no?

Times like these you can just act like you're pro, lean back, sigh, and say, "Get used to it, kid."

Good Work my spread resserection methods around. Serious. If all healers did this people would learn real quick like to listen.


What you do is get another monk or healer to bring the real res.

Not all classes are as cookie cutter as W/Mo. One size does not always fit all. The OP even mentioned in his post...

... Smarty.

Yeah, I also get this sort of thing with my monk, only a little different. I usually use protection spells on my monk so I make sure to always say "Protection Monk LFG...". Yet a couple times people have invited me and then yelled "WTF HEAL US ALL OMG" in the middle of the mission. I then kindly inform them that I already told them I use protection spells. I swear some people just see a Monk class and the thought "MONK = INVINCIBLE/CONSTANT HEALING" just goes through their head and they disregard anything else.

Well I did leave that 1st group BTW. I then set my last skill, went and fixed a rum and coke, then when I came back I had an invite from some1 else. I accepted and the mission started out with them drawing too many monsters. The monsters came right for me. (luckily I had Sprint ready) After we killed off that rather large group I told them that if they drew too many in the next area I would most likely get killed. From that point on everything went smoothly. We did 2 of the three missions for Ascention. The group worked very well together. I only had 2 peeps get killed on me from an unexpected patrol while we were in a fight already. But there were no foul comments towards me and I took a screenshot of the party names so I can referance them later. I will have no prob partying with any of them again

Edit: OK if you insist; retarded, excuse me but where did that come from? Me hopeless? Have you ever heard of "venting" or is that a new concept to you? From your other post it would seem that you have encountered the same problem (or similar). So it rather surprised me that you made that comment. end Edit.


Have a good night everyone! I have to work in the morning so its off to bed

You could always, change your skills before you join a group.

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Thank god that Alesia doesn't stop healing people because she's on some personal power trip.

Teamwork? Group Dynamics? Big talk... all just lip service when said people proclaiming it's importance bail, or threaten to quit or stop healing when things don't go their way or they run into someone they actually have to make an effort to team with.

Completely. I figured that one out awhile ago the hard way.

Now I go into an invite with a base template that I've decided to bring to the table ahead of time, with a few slots that are variable in case the group is communicative, yet that I'm extremely fine going in with if they are not.

In a PvE PuG, rarely does one come across a group of people who discuss their skill setups and want to figure out complimentary designs on the fly. Everytime I've tried to intiate that, it fell on deaf ears. It's a lot simpler to just go in prepared, yet be ready to switch if that unique team happens to show up.

I have never complained to a Monk about lack of healing my character. I will thank them after the battle for the help they have given me. I try to notice other characters energy levels. In fact I like the Monk to call targets. Many times I have broken off my fight up front (when I can get UNstuck) and ran to the rear to draw off the bad guy nailing on the casters while trying to use my healing breeze on one of them at the same time telling them to run away.

One of the greatest feelings is when a mission/quest is over and the Monk in the group whispers to me" "Add me and call me anytime for a mission..."

I play a monk. He is a ranger and doesn't have quite the energy that he should due to wielding an awesome bow. I like Ranger because of being able to have one or two ranger slots depending on the mission. Especially Stormchaser, that Ranger version of sprint, has saved entire missions, allowing me to get away and then rebirth the entire team after the baddies have slunk away. And I like the concept of a bow wielding monk... although a bo wielding monk would be cool too.

I ALWAYS discuss that my energy is not the highest... but I will heal as much as I can... and any help that the other teammates can give to healing themselves or each other is greatly appreciated. In town.

I WILL switch skills as we are discussing the mission, in town, if need be. I ask for suggestions.

Despite being a low energy Monk (34), I have pretty decent management energy skills. My heals are effective and fast. I like the 5 pt Heals, especially Dwayna's Kiss which stacks healing on any enchantment. When I'm partnered with another Protection monk, we rock on toast.

As I said in another post, I have had FAR more great PUGS than bad or average. I must be doing something right.

The best and only 'omfg heal me monk' story happened last night...I just got to the Desert and grouped with some people to get to Augury Rock. Mind you, I'm the ONLY healer in the group including secondaries. Someone rushed into the scarabs outside the Oasis and we all die. Then someone aggros another mob of about 8-12 and we die. Then 4 of the party members start up with 'omg heal someone' and 'you suck n00b' , etc...I requested someone call targets before going into a battle, nobody did. I requested that if anyone had any possible healing (the Necro) that they use it to help use my energy for everyone else. The best was the W/E asking why I only healed myself when I'm curing his poison and bleeding and using Heal Other on him constantly. Then...it may be even better - the two most vocal people yelling that I sucked had no clue what the teleports were. So I was basically being called a n00b by n00bs. Once I pointed that out they shut up. The other two shut up earlier in the mission when I said that a) if you don't like me find another healer and b) flat out - I won't heal you unless you shut up and call targets.