I think we need a 1 v 1 arena

Firestreak

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Mystic Circle

W/N

I really think we need a 1 versus 1 arena. Or at least something like that. Picture a Tomb-style version of 1 on 1, where sometimes you take on just one other character, and other times your pitted in a gladiator style fight against a bunch of other people--in essence a free for all. Picture the glory of seeing

"So and so has won a battle in the (1v1 top arena)," showing others that you're a really good pvpist.


Or even better, what if you could simply click on a person ingame and like a trade request, do a battle request, and just fight the other person, and if you win you receive a fame, and if you lose you lose a fame, and if anyone leaves the person that remains in the area wins.

If you've ever played RYL you know what I'm talking about, although they might want designated battle areas within a city to do them in. Hehe fighting with other people in the area was still fun though, jumping over them etc, fighting on a roof...sometimes I also wish you had a more interactive environment where you could jump around and climb stuff, etc.

Anyways, the point of this post is that I think we need a 1v1 addition to the game. Do you agree, disagree, and why so. Also, if yes, how would it be done?

Ashleigh McMahon

Ashleigh McMahon

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2005

North East England

WoTU[Warlords of the Underworld]

Mo/Me

Moved to Suggestions Forum.

Regards, Ashleigh.

Firestreak

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Mystic Circle

W/N

Whoops my bad ^_^

arredondo

arredondo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

My idea is here:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=24533

It'll avoid the problem they may want to avoid of everyone rating classes and skills based on one on one play (and you get a practice area out of it). =)

Mayar third Keeper

Mayar third Keeper

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

1vs 1 in GW would be silly. You cant balance it.

arredondo

arredondo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

You're right, which is why it should never be "officially" created. An unofficial practice arena for testing skills with a buddy or two, but where people might choose on their own to "unofficially" battle 1v1 (or 2v2, or 2v1) would be cool. For the few who complain about 1v1 imbalance, they can say it was merely a practice arena, and that balance isn't the design focus for that area.

Firestreak

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Mystic Circle

W/N

Well perhaps not a 1v1 arena but maybe a free for all arena where your on a team of only yourself?

JasonJLore

Core Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
1vs 1 in GW would be silly. You cant balance it.
why not? in 4x4 i have yet to see any one profession out perform another (with the possible exception of a primary monk/x proffesion). and even then the monk generally held its' own. i fear elementalists the most but i know that equipped with a long bow and the "right" mix of ranger & mesmer skills i can give as much as take.

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

definitely they need a 1vs1 Arena in which you can win sigils and fame

this is the best way to stop most of the playerbase from quitting once they realize PVP is impossible to succeed at unless they have 7 other hardcore PVP players in the same Guild as them who come online all the time

StandardAI

StandardAI

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2005

K A R M A

The warrior with life siphon/life transfer would win every time, There's a reason why there isn't a 1v1 arena, and rightly so there isn't one.

Gedscho

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

the Zen Men

Mo/W

Mister AI, I would have expected a smarter remark from your side ^^.

First off... I guess that is not necessarily true. (the life leeching warrior thingy)

and the second thing is: what if that arena could be provided, and people would actually balance their builds themselves for a fun fight. or just to try out skills. or.. or.. or..
or maybe you finally got a place where you can test sayings like... my x can outtank your x anyday.

i LOVE this idea, since i feel the desperate need to beat up a good friend of mine. personally

maybe set em up like showfights, rp-wise.

oh and surely: NO fame, NO xp, NO sigils, NO nuffin, just beating the livin s+++ outta your best friend.

Storm Shadow

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Warriors of the Emperor

W/E

i agree with Gedscho there. me and my pals would love to go one on one for nothing but a fun thing to do. i could see it no how very funny it would be

Raasta

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2005

BloodAxe Guild

W/Mo

I agree with the Arena part of it, there probably would never be an 'official' 1 vs 1 arena. But it would be nice to have some sort of 1 on 1 challenge that was 'un-official' even if it was only held in the Guild Halls.

Mat Thirteen

Mat Thirteen

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Illinois

Cheyenne Social Club

E/N

Im so tired of 1v1 suggestions. ANet said it will never happen. It would never work. Its a joke. Drop it already.

Firestreak

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Mystic Circle

W/N

Show me where they said that!!!!!


*cries*


Lol, but the beauty of guild wars is that every character is balanced. While it's true that if a 1v1 arena was made, that there would occasionally be a slight imbalance, thats only the nature of the game. It's not the players fault that a Mesmer can beat a Monk, but that rarity would only happen if a mesmer and a monk actually got pitted against each other. In truth that would only make the 1v1 arena more challenging, because if some reward like um 'Respect' (playoff of fame) was given for each battle you won, theres no reason you should always win.

The beauty of this game is that each build is creative, and gets the job done. The other beauty is that there is always a counter for it somewhere.

Deagol

Deagol

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Denmark

But both players would wear clown gear while the fight goes on.

There are many situations where a 1vs1 fight would be appropriate. Not just for training, also for disputes: "My Wa/Mo" is invincible!" "No, my R/Ne can kill it even before you get close!"

The clown noses would just be there to reming the players that 1vs1 isn't the kind of combat the game is designed for.

hydrak

hydrak

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

This is guild wars, not 1v1, get it?

It is difficult to balance 1v1 as mentioned by other people here. If 1v1 is added, then soon you'll see the same build all over the places. With GvG, you need more or less different builds to make up a good team.

Czar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

I believe that a 1vs1 (perhaps a random battle arena and a challenge arena) would increase my game play and general overall experience. Why? The factors that take place in a 4vs4 is just to great. I play the random arena quite a lot as my Warrior build. When you are randomly pitted against another team of four without a monk, which is unbalanced, the brawl is still very fun (until you die ;-).

The 1v1 would allow you to invite a friend, guild mate, or random hero to battle. Then I could fine-tune my skills and attributes when the X factors are limited. What works against the Monk best, how about a lone Mesmer, etc…

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

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Its another feature to add in, but I fail to see how this could EVER be balanced not matter what anyone says.

Night

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by hydrak
This is guild wars, not 1v1, get it?

It is difficult to balance 1v1 as mentioned by other people here. If 1v1 is added, then soon you'll see the same build all over the places. With GvG, you need more or less different builds to make up a good team.
No offence intended here but 4 x 4 or 8 x 8 is a war? A war in my opinion would involved a crap load more people so the "its called guild wars" IMO doesn't mean a whole nor does it invalidate the fact this game has PvP system which is major component. A war would included alliances between factions as well and I have yet to come across any real way of creating an alliance or allied guilds outsided of understood or implied alliances. IMO doesn't mean a whole nor does it invalidate the fact this game has PvP system which is major component. I'd be all for it myself.

Besides what is the problem with the same builds being everywhere? If its the exact same make up then doesn't in turn into a skill fight which if this is the case, isn't that what makes GW so much better? No one is saying you have to do 1 on 1's just like no one is saying you have to HoH or any other type of PvP. I don't see a problem with adding a 1 on 1 feature. It just adds another tidbit to the game.

hydrak

hydrak

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Night
No offence intended here but 4 x 4 or 8 x 8 is a war? A war in my opinion would involved a crap load more people so the "its called guild wars" IMO doesn't mean a whole nor does it invalidate the fact this game has PvP system which is major component. A war would included alliances between factions as well and I have yet to come across any real way of creating an alliance or allied guilds outsided of understood or implied alliances. IMO doesn't mean a whole nor does it invalidate the fact this game has PvP system which is major component. I'd be all for it myself.

Besides what is the problem with the same builds being everywhere? If its the exact same make up then doesn't in turn into a skill fight which if this is the case, isn't that what makes GW so much better? No one is saying you have to do 1 on 1's just like no one is saying you have to HoH or any other type of PvP. I don't see a problem with adding a 1 on 1 feature. It just adds another tidbit to the game.
If you like 1vs1 so much, you can always go back to diablo2 or WoW where you can maul another player 20 levels lower than you at will. 1vs1 PvP will never be balanced and anet will get alot more complaints if they ever add this feature.

rii

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

UK

Why do people say Guild Wars is so balanced?
I mean it is, but to be honest 90% of the player base dont know every skill in the game, which is more or less necessary for this game to be balanced. Then, people go around, and know exactly what to do, and player skill in game is all that matters. At the moment, theres a huge gap where some people just dont know better (dont mean to be rude) and therefore while the classes are balanced, the players arent. 1v1 arena would work, but it wouldnt be lifesiphon that wins it.

hydrak

hydrak

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by rii
Why do people say Guild Wars is so balanced?
I mean it is, but to be honest 90% of the player base dont know every skill in the game, which is more or less necessary for this game to be balanced. Then, people go around, and know exactly what to do, and player skill in game is all that matters. At the moment, theres a huge gap where some people just dont know better (dont mean to be rude) and therefore while the classes are balanced, the players arent. 1v1 arena would work, but it wouldnt be lifesiphon that wins it.
4vs4 or 8vs8 is more balanced than 1vs1 because the weakness of one build can be covered by another person on your team and vice versa. Think about it.

drowningfish999

drowningfish999

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Join Date: May 2005

Awakened Tempest [aT]

As long as their isn't any big reward or anything, or the reward is seperate from the HoH PvP, then I don't see why there is anything wrong with this. Maybe there could be a seperate scorechart that lists the classes you've played and wins/losses to them. Since no one is being forced to play in them, balance can't really be an issue, since it's 100% opptional if you play at all.

ICURADik

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by StandardAI
The warrior with life siphon/life transfer would win every time, There's a reason why there isn't a 1v1 arena, and rightly so there isn't one.
War or Rng/Mes would probaly be king. Energy denial + steady dps + good armor.

Mo/E using Obsidian Flesh and mass enchants would also be very popular.

ICURADik

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

BTW, I'm all for this idea. Would allow much more open amount of testing within guilds.

Mister Pie

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Evil Avatar

W/Me

It would be a fun idea as long as people don't take it too seriously. I can see way too many people taking a loss to heart and then posting all over the boards about imbalance.

speedtouch

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canada

Mighty Crusade

R/Mo

It's stupid if you never add this in

Who cares if you suck at it, you don't even have to do it.If you think 1 vs 1 is imbalanced just don't use it.
There should be NO rewards and NO penaltys at all, something to do for fun.

and please stop telling us to play games that have the stuff we're suggesting.

suggests mounts, reply: GO PLAY WOW
suggests player housing, reply: GO PLAY THE SIMS
suggests pet armor, reply: GO PLAY NEOPETS
suggests 1 vs 1 battles, reply: GO PLAY WOW

Like sheesh, you don't always have to compare to another game every topic you hate.

Firestreak

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Mystic Circle

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by speedtouch
It's stupid if you never add this in

Who cares if you suck at it, you don't even have to do it.If you think 1 vs 1 is imbalanced just don't use it.
There should be NO rewards and NO penaltys at all, something to do for fun.

and please stop telling us to play games that have the stuff we're suggesting.

suggests mounts, reply: GO PLAY WOW
suggests player housing, reply: GO PLAY THE SIMS
suggests pet armor, reply: GO PLAY NEOPETS
suggests 1 vs 1 battles, reply: GO PLAY WOW

Like sheesh, you don't always have to compare to another game every topic you hate.


I thought GW was a game that took other RPG concepts to make the ultimate RPG. 1v1 would be a fine addition to the game. Besides, participating in it is like watching a tv channel. You either can watch it, or you can not watch it. The channels there for every other subscriber to either watch or not watch also.

Indigo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Ivory and Steel

N/Me

If a practice arena was added to the Guild hall this entire argument would be moot. Then you could practice with your guildmates 1v1, 2v1, 3v2, or some other combination up to 8v8, if you wanted... If there is to be a "practice arena" the guild hall is where it should be.

varyag

varyag

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wrath of Nature [Fury]

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Firestreak
I really think we need a 1 versus 1 arena.

Anyways, the point of this post is that I think we need a 1v1 addition to the game. Do you agree, disagree, and why so. Also, if yes, how would it be done?
I removed all the unnecessary and contraversial poo you first wrote.
Keep it simple.

We need 1v1 for testing. Which damage dealer of the two does more damage? Which mesmer is best at shutting down a monk, another mesmer? Etcetera.

(maybe it should only be availiable within a guild, in the guildhall)

arredondo

arredondo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Indigo
If a practice arena was added to the Guild hall this entire argument would be moot. Then you could practice with your guildmates 1v1, 2v1, 3v2, or some other combination up to 8v8, if you wanted... If there is to be a "practice arena" the guild hall is where it should be.
Quoted for genius... and also because i suggested the exact same thing.

varyag

varyag

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wrath of Nature [Fury]

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by arredondo
Quote:

Originally Posted by Indigo
If a practice arena was added to the Guild hall this entire argument would be moot. Then you could practice with your guildmates 1v1, 2v1, 3v2, or some other combination up to 8v8, if you wanted... If there is to be a "practice arena" the guild hall is where it should be.

Quoted for genius... and also because i suggested the exact same thing. Quoted for genius... and also because i suggested the exact same thing.
I raise by double quoting your quote. *two thumbs up*

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

It would give warriors something to do rather than waiting 15 minutes in the HoH waiting for a party to take pity on them and invite. Unless you're an aftershock/knockdown warrior, no one wants you. In a 1v1, there would be no waiting, just fighting.

Also no more after one match half the party leaves because you lost. And it would be a lot better than say Diablo II because unlike it that game you can't hack in the best stuff.

And if it's just used for the purpose of testing, then why all the complaints?

Pashet

Pashet

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Illinois

House Nightshade

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by speedtouch
There should be NO rewards and NO penaltys at all, something to do for fun.

and please stop telling us to play games that have the stuff we're suggesting.

suggests mounts, reply: GO PLAY WOW
suggests player housing, reply: GO PLAY THE SIMS
suggests pet armor, reply: GO PLAY NEOPETS
suggests 1 vs 1 battles, reply: GO PLAY WOW

Like sheesh, you don't always have to compare to another game every topic you hate.
Bravo! I agree. I'm tired of everyone badmouthing every idea that comes out of someones mouth.

As for this idea. I like it. Even if it's just to play around. For people who are new to PvP it would be a godsend. Get them used to the idea of battle against a real player, practice, figure out strategy, etc. One battle in the acedemy doesn't do it for you.