If people keep complaining about how unfair and messed up the economy is could anet wipe all gold and items?
They wont wipe lvls since they dont want us to grind again but they might do it with items, money
I would stop complaining now. I doubt they will do this but still.
Major reset?
internopsp
Aaaaagh
I cant see them doing that, they would lose a large number of players....which means a large amout of cash. Think about it like this, in six months, it wont much matter.
wahjot
this isnt diablo
Sholtar
An economy sweep wouldn't be effective. The new economy would develop in the same old ruts. What they need to do is fix the current economy by creating proper gold sinks that establish a balance with the gold influx. They need to find an ideal total market value, and balance it so that it stays there. This won't happen by wiping the economy.
Borealis
If they wipe items I'll never touch this game again, I didn't play 350-400+ hours to lose all that I've busted my arse to get.
I'm dying for some good gold sinks, suppose I could take a ton of ale into the fissure eh?
I'm dying for some good gold sinks, suppose I could take a ton of ale into the fissure eh?
Blahofstars
I dunno, maybe an Item Gambler like the one in D2 with highly overpriced items. That'd eat up the gold fast.
Sholtar
Item Gambler would work to an extent, but it would be far better to kill two birds with one stone by creating, for example, Taverns. This would allow for innovative gold sinks that don't reward the player with anything but community building, and it would also satisfy the people who think there isn't enough to do that involves more than just your party.
DarrenJasper
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Originally Posted by internopsp
If people keep complaining about how unfair and messed up the economy is could anet wipe all gold and items?
They wont wipe lvls since they dont want us to grind again but they might do it with items, money I would stop complaining now. I doubt they will do this but still. |
/greasy
hydrak
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Originally Posted by internopsp
If people keep complaining about how unfair and messed up the economy is could anet wipe all gold and items?
They wont wipe lvls since they dont want us to grind again but they might do it with items, money I would stop complaining now. I doubt they will do this but still. |
Those other people keep buying items, thus raising the prices.
I blame it on the economy.
I want a reset, completely wipe out all gold and items.
Thanks.
ManadartheHealer
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Originally Posted by hydrak
I can't seem to make as much gold as other people.
Those other people keep buying items, thus raising the prices. I blame it on the economy. I want a reset, completely wipe out all gold and items. Thanks. |
Lose-Lose
Sholtar
I'm hoping hydrak was joking. If not, I just feel sorry for them. It's not the economy's fault. Ok, the economy isn't the greatest, but a wipe is an absurd idea and I hope that nobody actually seriously thinks it would be effective for anything but shutting the game down due to lack of participants.
Wa$d
well then any1 else have any good ideas? the PvP update will do nothing for PvE, so they are still neglecting PvE
Sagius Truthbarron
/violin
Noes, this game isn't perfect. Let's go back and play Risk Your Life or RoseOn
[Point: People in this game whine about everything, yet, this is probably the best MMORPG ever made. Reason: They are all Counter Strike players.]
Noes, this game isn't perfect. Let's go back and play Risk Your Life or RoseOn
[Point: People in this game whine about everything, yet, this is probably the best MMORPG ever made. Reason: They are all Counter Strike players.]
Racthoh
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Originally Posted by Sholtar
Item Gambler would work to an extent, but it would be far better to kill two birds with one stone by creating, for example, Taverns. This would allow for innovative gold sinks that don't reward the player with anything but community building, and it would also satisfy the people who think there isn't enough to do that involves more than just your party.
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Magus
In comparison to the general population, I'm quite poor, as I'm just a casual player. Farmers will always make far more money than I do, but I don't want a reset.
Sure, I can't afford the best equipment, but I can come close. Some farmer might spend a fortune on a +30 pommel of fortitude, but I could get a +27 one for 100K less. Ooh, I'm at a disadvantage of 3 health, boo hoo.
As Sholtar and ManadartheHealer said, a reset will only delay the so-called imbalance, not stop it. Gold sinks are the way to go.
Sure, I can't afford the best equipment, but I can come close. Some farmer might spend a fortune on a +30 pommel of fortitude, but I could get a +27 one for 100K less. Ooh, I'm at a disadvantage of 3 health, boo hoo.
As Sholtar and ManadartheHealer said, a reset will only delay the so-called imbalance, not stop it. Gold sinks are the way to go.
hydrak
I don't have enough gold to buy anything.
I'm jealous of all the rich people who can buy everything.
The economy I'm blaming.
A.net I want reseting.
I'm jealous of all the rich people who can buy everything.
The economy I'm blaming.
A.net I want reseting.
Magus
Um, I play on average for 30 minutes to an hour each day, and I can easily buy what I want (obviously not the perfect equipment, but pretty damned close.) Yeah, I'm also jealous of the rich people who can buy whatever they want too, but they have almost no advantage over people like me. Fixing the economy, such as through gold sinks is the answer; resetting doesn't solve a thing.
hydrak
Don't blame me for pointing out the brilliant logic that Internopsp and all the people, who want a reset, have.
DarrenJasper
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Originally Posted by hydrak
I don't have enough gold to buy anything.
I'm jealous of all the rich people who can buy everything. The economy I'm blaming. A.net I want reseting. Don't blame me for pointing out the brilliant logic that Internopsp and all the people, who want a reset, have. |
sojen
Just wiping all the money, people will still do the same thing over and over again. Economy repeats itself. We having too much inflation, what do we do? Try to lessen the money in the economy, use gold sink, or they can try to control prices.
Since prices are not easy to control in online games whereby you cannot set a ceiling price or floor price, the next best thing would be to at least give out a price guide. New players can use this guide from getting cheated, and preventing people from further cheating therefore raising the price even higher.
Or if the reason so much inflation is going on because too much demand, too little supply. ANet do not have to be so efficient in cutting out ALL of the nice farming spots. When farming spots keep getting nerfed, sure lack of supply, demand still high, therefore people sell stuff for higher price, only the rich can afford.
Then if people have problem against farming, perhaps ANet need to find a way to increase supply of those items, through collectors, or quest, or something. Inflation is only going to get worse and worse unless something is done.
I'm not saying that ANet hasnt done anything. The Dwarven ale was quite nice, but somehow these things are only temporary.
Wiping everything is only going to cause even more hatred. Instead of just hatred towards economy, they going to get hatred towards game. *poof* players disappear...
Since prices are not easy to control in online games whereby you cannot set a ceiling price or floor price, the next best thing would be to at least give out a price guide. New players can use this guide from getting cheated, and preventing people from further cheating therefore raising the price even higher.
Or if the reason so much inflation is going on because too much demand, too little supply. ANet do not have to be so efficient in cutting out ALL of the nice farming spots. When farming spots keep getting nerfed, sure lack of supply, demand still high, therefore people sell stuff for higher price, only the rich can afford.
Then if people have problem against farming, perhaps ANet need to find a way to increase supply of those items, through collectors, or quest, or something. Inflation is only going to get worse and worse unless something is done.
I'm not saying that ANet hasnt done anything. The Dwarven ale was quite nice, but somehow these things are only temporary.
Wiping everything is only going to cause even more hatred. Instead of just hatred towards economy, they going to get hatred towards game. *poof* players disappear...
hydrak
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Guys. Read this again and then imagine it coming from the brain of a human person. He is joking.
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Paladin_Adoni
something that will no doubt get mega complaints but would help alot is yet another trader. a weapons and mods trader.
then all those idiotic sales past 100K will not happen, as the trader wont sell higher than 100K.
this way, weapon prices will lower the same as rune prices did.
then all those idiotic sales past 100K will not happen, as the trader wont sell higher than 100K.
this way, weapon prices will lower the same as rune prices did.
Magus
I actually prefer the lack of a weapons/mods trader (or if they do implement one, have him sell the mods with the lowest modifiers e.g. +20 fortitudes.) No, I am not a farmer, and definitely not a rich player. With the rune trader, weapons and mods are the last "rare" thing in the game. I take pride in being able to find a rare weapon, I don't want it to be something that can simply be bought. Besides, even with average gold, I can already buy near-perfect weapons and mods.
hydrak
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Originally Posted by Magus
I actually prefer the lack of a weapons/mods trader (or if they do implement one, have him sell the mods with the lowest modifiers e.g. +20 fortitudes.) No, I am not a farmer, and definitely not a rich player. With the rune trader, weapons and mods are the last "rare" thing in the game. I take pride in being able to find a rare weapon, I don't want it to be something that can simply be bought. Besides, even with average gold, I can already buy near-perfect weapons and mods.
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And btw, if you don't want your items to be something that can be bought, then you are playing the wrong game. Last time I checked, the best armor is basically bought from crafter or collector, and so are some of the weapons with best mods.
Magus
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Would you like to buy a max dmg 15%>50 fellblade from an NPC trader for 100k?
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And btw, if you don't want your items to be something that can be bought, then you are playing the wrong game.
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Last time I checked, the best armor is basically bought from crafter or collector, and so are some of the weapons with best mods.
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hellraisin
the rare items are called rare for a reason. not so every player can have the exact the same max stats. in that case, you would totally take away the appeal of finding the "rare" item and be able to brag about it.
Itbegins
ok everyone whose talking about resetting needs to hush the people who have been playing this game die hard since april 27th dont deserve that i have been playing since betas and knew that my account would be wiped before release. rewiping accounts of all but charectors would cause 3 out of 4 to quit and pretty much everyone not to buy the game. i think that the gold for gambling is an awesome idea. i also believe if they can do 1k in the underworld they should do 1k for 1v1 pvp so freinds can fight each other 1 on 1.
another thing reseting would just be a big LEERRROOOY JENKINS on A.nets part
another thing reseting would just be a big LEERRROOOY JENKINS on A.nets part
internopsp
I DONT WANT A RESET. I have lots of good items.
Stop saying that im the baby wanting to reset. Did anyone even read my post? I said to stop complaining or they might do it. Where did i say i want it? i DONT want it to reset.
Stop saying that im the baby wanting to reset. Did anyone even read my post? I said to stop complaining or they might do it. Where did i say i want it? i DONT want it to reset.
DarrenJasper
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Originally Posted by internopsp
I said to stop complaining or they might do it.
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Episodicfreak
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/violin
[Point: People in this game whine about everything, yet, this is probably the best MMORPG ever made. Reason: They are all Counter Strike players.] |
There's really too much complaining about stuff. It is one of the best mmorpgs ever. If people don't abuse it then it'd work properly. Obv I"m not naive and if you can abuse it then it will be abused. But the gambling thing, although it'll never be implemented, and keep it to that thread.
I am one of the poor people in the game. The most I've ever had was about 10k, and that's only because I was lucky enough to have a purple FDS in the first week of the game when everyone was wandering around gasping at Rurik's sword. We've got 2 uber rich people in the guild, but other than that, the rest of us are doing fine. But there's really too much whining for it to be healthy. Chill out!
EmperorTippy
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I don't have enough gold to buy anything.
I'm jealous of all the rich people who can buy everything. The economy I'm blaming. A.net I want reseting. |
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Originally Posted by DarrenJasper
Guys. Read this again and then imagine it coming from the brain of a human person. He is joking.
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Originally Posted by hydrak
Yea, after my first 2 posts here about the brilliant logic of anyone who wants a reset, I don't count on seeing anyone try to defend "reset" in this thread. And that includes the brilliant Internopsp.
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Ian
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Originally Posted by hellraisin
the rare items are called rare for a reason. not so every player can have the exact the same max stats. in that case, you would totally take away the appeal of finding the "rare" item and be able to brag about it.
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There are several dozens of high-end weapons flowing through the economy with the same stats. Vampiric, for example. That shows you that there is no single uber-leet item in the game.
JoDiamonds
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Originally Posted by Magus
That doesn't bother me at all, seeing as how I can already do that from players. I don't want max weapon prices to go down the crapper like rune prices did.
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Max weapon prices would remain high. Near-max would plummet. Just like runes.
Not ALL runes are dirt cheap, just the ones no one wants. The way it should be.