Guild Wars Diversity - Discussion of new Races in the GW Universe
Armaio
This has been mentioned before, but not in the sanitarium! We would like to see atleast one more race added - dwarves! Not only do they play a key role in the game already, but they are the coolest race next to humans anyways.
Volume II
I want pink flamingoes to be race. That would be neato. 
Manderlock
i would love to see a dark elf race
this of course would depend on if the dark elfs even exist in the gw world
i would just love to make Drizzt
this of course would depend on if the dark elfs even exist in the gw world
i would just love to make Drizzt
Uthar
Dwarves are already in the game, silly... what more could you want?
And when you say 'we', is that a royal 'we'?
And when you say 'we', is that a royal 'we'?
Kalen de Gara
I'd like to see the Undead added as a playable race. I think being an undead necromancer which be just great!
Diabolus
I'd like to see a variety of races you choose from, even if they don't do anything specific and only affect your appearance. I believe you can only have humans, right? Isn't that going to severly limit the appearances, and will soon get way too many people looking similar? From the screenshots I saw, mostly everyone looked the same apart from the armour (and the fact about the naked dance party didn't help)
BlackArrow
If they add any races I hope it's a race that appears in the first chapter of GW or is completely original. I never want to see gnomes, elves, halflings or anything else that blatantly rips off movies, books ort other games. Dwarves are alright since they are already in, but I'd prefer a brand new race never seen before.
Taranis
Yes....I'd like to see Night Elves, Dwarves, Gnomes, Trolls, Orcs, Tauren and Undeads ~_~ Guess why GW only got humen? Coz it makes it unique and not like all those other games...I don't mind....I'm happy with humen...
Cyris
I hope they add races as well, it will make the game lat longer!
lol they cant do that, that would be copying wow exactly! 
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Armaio
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I hope they add races as well, it will make the game lat longer!
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Kha
I would love to have an imp-like race in the game. The game currently has imps, gargoyles and mergoyles for NPCs. Maybe there is more to them than we know. I get tired of always looking like a human (humans, dwarves, gnomes, elves, etc) but also I'm not really into animal-like races (gnolls, minotaurs, etc). Though I would be more than content if they just kept stuck with the human race and added a lot more customizations to the look.
Manderlock
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Originally Posted by Armaio
I'm sure he was being sarcastic, and yes adding dwarves would be ok, but that would be the only other race I would like to see. If you add races like night elves, elves, hobbits...it gets retarded like every other mmo I have seen. Name one game that doesnt have these races and is a popular mmo
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now if they add dwarves then they about have to add elves. dwarves without elves is like ying without yang.
William of Orange
Unless Elves show up later in the game, I'm pretty sure we already have it where there are only Dwarves and no Elves. So it can't be throwing off any ying and yang here, since it's currently being done, except it's only at the NPC level.
I see no problem with adding Dwarves, and the same goes for Undeads. But anything beyond that, and you're starting to hit a gray area and making Guild Wars just like every other MMORPG out there...
I see no problem with adding Dwarves, and the same goes for Undeads. But anything beyond that, and you're starting to hit a gray area and making Guild Wars just like every other MMORPG out there...
Tur713
Maybe Charr, but at a much later date. I'm talking chapters away here guys. You know, if for some reason, they have to team up to defeat a greater evil or something. I mean, Charr have been just about every profession from what I've seen. I could see it happening.
Master of the Death
I would be cool to play as lizardmans, undeads, elves, dwarves,...
William of Orange
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Originally Posted by Tur713
Maybe Charr, but at a much later date. I'm talking chapters away here guys. You know, if for some reason, they have to team up to defeat a greater evil or something. I mean, Charr have been just about every profession from what I've seen. I could see it happening.
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But since you brought it up, that would be quite the delicious plot twist if both Humans and Charr had to fight hand-in-hand to defeat "a greater evil." If something like that came up, I would find that very entertaining...
Kind of like when what was left of the Imperial forces and the Rebellion/New Republic forces teamed up to defeat the Ssi-ruuk invaders in Star Wars: The Truce at Bakura by Kathy Tyers.
Armaio
Oh no, not a star wars comparison ... 
William of Orange
It was the best comparison that came to mind, and it worked too, so that's just what I put down.The book's a good book though, and I was, and still am, a big fan of Star Wars.
DarkWasp
What if you could be pretzels?
Or better yet, Wonder Bread man!
Or better yet, Wonder Bread man!
Auh
Asheron's Call 2 Had Humans, Lugians, And Tumeroks. They never copied any other race.
(I think in a later expansion you should be able to transform yourself into an undead (I.E. A quest.. I think a good name for it would be "The Heartripper's Promise"). So the Undead and the Humans could War, and have special outcomes on the game depending on which side does better. Of course this would incorporate a lot of storyline, so it couldn't happen for awhile.)
(I think in a later expansion you should be able to transform yourself into an undead (I.E. A quest.. I think a good name for it would be "The Heartripper's Promise"). So the Undead and the Humans could War, and have special outcomes on the game depending on which side does better. Of course this would incorporate a lot of storyline, so it couldn't happen for awhile.)
Taranis
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Originally Posted by Auh
Asheron's Call 2 Had Humans, Lugians, And Tumeroks. They never copied any other race.
(I think in a later expansion you should be able to transform yourself into an undead (I.E. A quest.. I think a good name for it would be "The Heartripper's Promise"). So the Undead and the Humans could War, and have special outcomes on the game depending on which side does better. Of course this would incorporate a lot of storyline, so it couldn't happen for awhile.) |
DeathShadow
I think the game is awesome the way it is..I would not be able to make a presumption about whether they should add more races until the game has been out in its full version for a while. I feel like I haven't even scratched the surface as it is! 
Manderlock
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Originally Posted by DeathShadow
I think the game is awesome the way it is..I would not be able to make a presumption about whether they should add more races until the game has been out in its full version for a while. I feel like I haven't even scratched the surface as it is!
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yea this game is much bigger than we even know. we are just suggesting for later chapters
gangguard
Definetaly CHARR and mayb have it like professions, Human/Elf= half elf
Human/undead Well i dunno, maybe semi-vampire,Human/Charr lol of all that times they're fighting each other a Human male married a Charr female and had one Human that grey hair and horns. But again if you are a pure race like pure charr, you'll get the most out of the racial stuff.. but that may give u less choice of professions if some professions were targeted to a race
Human/undead Well i dunno, maybe semi-vampire,Human/Charr lol of all that times they're fighting each other a Human male married a Charr female and had one Human that grey hair and horns. But again if you are a pure race like pure charr, you'll get the most out of the racial stuff.. but that may give u less choice of professions if some professions were targeted to a race
Weezer_Blue
Hey, the gurus were right. The line between sanity and genious IS very thin.
If we're going to do races, keep them original. I don't want to be an orc. I don't want to be an elf. I don't want to be a dwarf. I don't want to be a generic movie character that we've all seen in Lord of the Rings and in every game that exists that has races.
We need stuff that is completely original. A Charr race? Tengu? Gargoyles? Maguuma? Even though I don't doubt that A.Net would make even something as generic as Evles as original as they did the Shiverpeak's Dwarves, it's still generic nonetheless.
Oh, and finally, if they added races, they MUST be purely aesthetic. Why? Because otherwise it would stop being a cool customization option like the color you dye your armour and would become something like "Well, I'd rather be a Charr, but Tengu are better archers, so I'll get that instead".
PS: Half-Elf? A pure-Elf is already just a human with pointy ears!
If we're going to do races, keep them original. I don't want to be an orc. I don't want to be an elf. I don't want to be a dwarf. I don't want to be a generic movie character that we've all seen in Lord of the Rings and in every game that exists that has races.
We need stuff that is completely original. A Charr race? Tengu? Gargoyles? Maguuma? Even though I don't doubt that A.Net would make even something as generic as Evles as original as they did the Shiverpeak's Dwarves, it's still generic nonetheless.
Oh, and finally, if they added races, they MUST be purely aesthetic. Why? Because otherwise it would stop being a cool customization option like the color you dye your armour and would become something like "Well, I'd rather be a Charr, but Tengu are better archers, so I'll get that instead".
PS: Half-Elf? A pure-Elf is already just a human with pointy ears!
Lunarhound
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Oh, and finally, if they added races, they MUST be purely aesthetic. Why? Because otherwise it would stop being a cool customization option like the color you dye your armour and would become something like "Well, I'd rather be a Charr, but Tengu are better archers, so I'll get that instead".
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Tur713
Like I said, Charr had pretty much every profession already, it'd be an easy transition for a race later. I'm totally agreeing with the idea that other races should not do anything but change your look.
William of Orange
Agreed with Weezer and Lunarhound. I don't want to have to pick between Races because people have found out that one race is somehow inherently better than the other.
Aesthetics all the way; and of course, keep it original. But until we hear anything official from Arenanet, I wouldn't count on any new races being added for a long, long time.
Edit: Tur beat me to the post, but now I have to throw you in their in agreeing with new races being just for looks
Aesthetics all the way; and of course, keep it original. But until we hear anything official from Arenanet, I wouldn't count on any new races being added for a long, long time.
Edit: Tur beat me to the post, but now I have to throw you in their in agreeing with new races being just for looks
Lazarous
You could make races not purely aesthetic but still not necessarily unbalancing by having them use diffferent class pools - like a char might not have access to rangers, but does have access to (insert class name here).
Laz
Laz
William of Orange
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You could make races not purely aesthetic but still not necessarily unbalancing by having them use diffferent class pools - like a char might not have access to rangers, but does have access to (insert class name here).
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Edit: OK, I think I've got it again. Lets say you have an equation, using variables x and y. You've taken the time to balance the equation, and everything's all good. Suddenly...
*WHAM!!*
You now have a new variable; z. Well, since there is a new variable introduced into the original equation, it is now off-balance. But who would ever be interested in an equation which doesn't equal zero at first, second, and third glances? So what do you do? You rework the equation, plugging in new numbers and calculating things until you have finally rebalanced the equation, and the world is back in order. Your equation is now as attractive to the outside world as it was before.
See what I'm getting at? Anything which is added to the game and is not purely for looks needs to be balanced as a part of the bigger Guild Wars equation, no matter how trivial that detail may be.
Hope people followed the example, I was kind of just spitballing things...
Executioner
I would like to see standard Rpg races but with originality thers no reason you need to call a dwarf a dwarf .. i dont see why they need to be just aesthetic either, the race modifications could be very minimal thus being easyer to balance. Everything is possable it just needs alot testing...
Jia Xu
Personally :
1) any races added - they should come into the game and storyline in later chapters.
2) all race choices should be purely cosmetic. No more game balancing issues already! the character classes have been painstakingly balanced by the Dev team so that they are all perfectly viable options for play - now you want them to do that with races as well?
3) Add more faces/hair please! - and if you look at Necros btw, they practically are undead for all intents and purposes - check a comparison between a necro with white skin and Kain from the Soul Reaver series
1) any races added - they should come into the game and storyline in later chapters.
2) all race choices should be purely cosmetic. No more game balancing issues already! the character classes have been painstakingly balanced by the Dev team so that they are all perfectly viable options for play - now you want them to do that with races as well?
3) Add more faces/hair please! - and if you look at Necros btw, they practically are undead for all intents and purposes - check a comparison between a necro with white skin and Kain from the Soul Reaver series
Strycker
Blood Elf, why? Cause it takes a race everyone is familar with, and throws a twist on it. Night Elf has been overused, but Blood Elf is rather unheard of in MMO's. However, I rather have more options for character customization then new races.
Nash
Playing Dwarves, sure.
I'd take Elves over monster races, though. Come on, playing as Charr? How the hell would that make sense storyline-wise?
I think, if at all, ArenaNet will add races that aren't overused (with the exception of Dwarves) without ruining the story.
I'd take Elves over monster races, though. Come on, playing as Charr? How the hell would that make sense storyline-wise?
I think, if at all, ArenaNet will add races that aren't overused (with the exception of Dwarves) without ruining the story.
Lunarhound
I'm hoping ArenaNet never adds elves as a playable race, but probably for an entirely different reason than most of the people here.
At the moment, as far as I'm aware, elves aren't in the game at all, even as NPC's. That means that, if they're ever added, there's still room to make them very different. What I wouldn't mind seeing, are elves that aren't in any way similar to the humanlike tolkien elves, but closer to the sort of faerie-like creatures you see in a lot of folk lore. Small, sexless, nasty little green or purple-skinned things with sharp teeth and creepy little laughs who love to pick on humans. Closer to imps or goblins than what most people have to come think of as elves. Obviously, not the sort of thing anyone would expect to be able to play as, but I think it would be fun to run into them as NPC's/monsters while adventuring.
Besides being fun to fight, putting this sort of elf into the game would forever quiet most of the people who want to play Legolas clones. When adding elves is brought up, it can simply be said truthfully that Guild Wars already has them. They're just different.
At the moment, as far as I'm aware, elves aren't in the game at all, even as NPC's. That means that, if they're ever added, there's still room to make them very different. What I wouldn't mind seeing, are elves that aren't in any way similar to the humanlike tolkien elves, but closer to the sort of faerie-like creatures you see in a lot of folk lore. Small, sexless, nasty little green or purple-skinned things with sharp teeth and creepy little laughs who love to pick on humans. Closer to imps or goblins than what most people have to come think of as elves. Obviously, not the sort of thing anyone would expect to be able to play as, but I think it would be fun to run into them as NPC's/monsters while adventuring.
Besides being fun to fight, putting this sort of elf into the game would forever quiet most of the people who want to play Legolas clones. When adding elves is brought up, it can simply be said truthfully that Guild Wars already has them. They're just different.
SisterMercy
One thing I'm hoping is in the cards is the ability to play evil. It'd require an entirely new set of missions, so I don't see it as being something to release all that soon. It might also mean running it entirely on a seperate server, so that evil characters aren't congregating among good folk at Lion's Arch etc. But it'd be a nice new dimension to explore in the gameworld.
This is I think where Charr (and possibly even dwarves?) would come in. Maybe also playing as undead or dark elves. And if it's on a seperate server or with limited interaction with goodly folk, it would mean balancing evil characters only, not rebalancing anything previously established.
It's a thought.
This is I think where Charr (and possibly even dwarves?) would come in. Maybe also playing as undead or dark elves. And if it's on a seperate server or with limited interaction with goodly folk, it would mean balancing evil characters only, not rebalancing anything previously established.
It's a thought.
Manderlock
bah I'd take a drizzt clone over a Legolas clone anyday 
Lunarhound
*holds up a Legolas action figure* This is an elf. *dips it in black paint and pours white-out on its head* This is an elf on angst. Any questions?
Tur713
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One thing I'm hoping is in the cards is the ability to play evil. It'd require an entirely new set of missions, so I don't see it as being something to release all that soon. It might also mean running it entirely on a seperate server, so that evil characters aren't congregating among good folk at Lion's Arch etc. But it'd be a nice new dimension to explore in the gameworld.
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Tur713
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Originally Posted by Nash
Come on, playing as Charr? How the hell would that make sense storyline-wise?
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