WTB Obsidian Shards (3k) Globs Of Ectoplasm (4k)

ChildrenOfBodom

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

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Sell me all you have because I have very few of each

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I'll be on most of the day, if Janne Warman isn't on try:

IGN - Mike Dika

ChildrenOfBodom

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

The Circle of Nine

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Firestreak

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Mystic Circle

W/N

i got some shards for you.

ign me at

Time For You To Die
Hydro Fire


I probably wont be on any others.

ChildrenOfBodom

Frost Gate Guardian

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ChildrenOfBodom

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ChildrenOfBodom

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Juliana Mizuhara
Though not always, MOST OF THE TIME,

Rare Material Traders will buy from you:


Obsidian Shards for 4k or more each
Ectoplasm at 5k or more each.


Go to Ascalon City, Lions Arch, or Amnoon Oasis and find the Rare Material Trader. yeah but if I can buy ecto for 4k and shards for 3k why pay more... I'm not an idiot... I know what NPCs are... I've been playing this game for 300+ hours...

nidy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Long Island, NY

R/Me

whisper*i think they are saying saying you're ripping people off for a quick buck*

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

Join Date: May 2005

Lost in La-La Land

LFGuild

Mo/Me

Yup!

ChildrenOfBodom

Frost Gate Guardian

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Quote:
Originally Posted by nidy
whisper*i think they are saying saying you're ripping people off for a quick buck* LOL how can I rip people off if they sell it to me for the price I ask?

pearhk

pearhk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Asia

Scam / Rip off can be defined as exploit someone's ignorance to gain benefit

ChildrenOfBodom

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by pearhk
Scam / Rip off can be defined as exploit someone's ignorance to gain benefit
Me: hey can I buy your shards for 3k?
Then: okay
Me: thanks
*trade*
Me: cya

if you think thats scamming someone then you need to relearn the definition of scam

pearhk

pearhk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Asia

so Juliana Mizuhara has done a good job to avoid someone got rip off by u

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

Join Date: May 2005

Lost in La-La Land

LFGuild

Mo/Me

Why would they sell them to you for 3-4k when they can easily get more from the trader in town? (Yes, I *am* one of those in ToA who f***s up your buying low by telling the other players the trader in LA pays more than you're offering them.)

Warlawk

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/Mo

since you dont seem to get it.... theyre saying THE NPC WILL PAY PLAYERS MORE THAN YOU.

any way you slice it, paying players LESS than they can make from an NPC, is ripping them off by exploiting thier ignorance of pricing.

ChildrenOfBodom

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Quote:
Originally Posted by dansamy
Why would they sell them to you for 3-4k when they can easily get more from the trader in town? (Yes, I *am* one of those in ToA who f***s up your buying low by telling the other players the trader in LA pays more than you're offering them.) I dunno but plenty of people have sold me shards for 3k... and I don't know why people are sitting here telling me I'm ripping people off... okay? doesn't make sense, how do I know if they know about the rare material trader or not? do I care? no, all I know is if I ask 3k for one, and they say yes, then I'll buy it from them... which has happened plenty of times

ChildrenOfBodom

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Warlawk
since you dont seem to get it.... theyre saying THE NPC WILL PAY PLAYERS MORE THAN YOU.

any way you slice it, paying players LESS than they can make from an NPC, is ripping them off by exploiting thier ignorance of pricing. no, paying players LESS is not exploiting shit, in my mind shards are only worth 3k, so I ask 3k for a shard, people say yes, and I trade... am I taking these shards and selling them back for more? no, that would be dumb, I'm keeping them in a pile and waiting till I have 105 so I can buy the obsidian armor, would you love for me to take a screen shot of my storage? maybe they know about the NPC maybe they don't, do I care? no, do I know if they do or not? no, does it matter? no, maybe players just want to be nice and sell it cheaper for someone who needs them rather than be greedy and sell it to an NPC... do you know? no, so shut the **** up...

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

Join Date: May 2005

Lost in La-La Land

LFGuild

Mo/Me

I sell them to the NPC, and I tell other players in-game what the NPC will pay for them. I think of it as a "Public Service Announcement".

Maxiemonster

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

You can sell Globs of Ectoplasm for 6.5K and Shards for about 4K, so I don't really think you're actually going to buy any for this stupid price...

ChildrenOfBodom

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxiemonster
You can sell Globs of Ectoplasm for 6.5K and Shards for about 4K, so I don't really think you're actually going to buy any for this stupid price...
HMMMM.... dunno why this is...



HMMM again...



I think I'd rather not listen to your stupid ass because you can buy shards from the NPC at 3.8k, I'd rather buy them from the NPCs for that price (or from people at 3k) than listen to your down syndrome mouth blabbing out that shards are worth 4k+

ChildrenOfBodom

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Juliana Mizuhara
^^^ HAHAHA. That is hilarious. Nice try posting up that RARE moment of NPC's buying Shards for only 100g. That only happens for maybe 5 mins max, then the price is reconfigured back again , and then they (the Traders) start buying it again for MORE THAN the lousy 3k ea you're offering for it.


I would know it's only 5 mins max, because I was actually there at the trader TONIGHT when that happened. Care to guess how much the NPCs' are giving you for shards NOW? you're the stupid assholes trying to tell me the fixed prices on the shards, and you're all lying to me, because I just bought 5 shards from the material trader for 3,606g each, cheaper than what it was in that screen shot, and a hell of a lot cheaper then what you asshole told me

"You can sell Globs of Ectoplasm for 6.5K and Shards for about 4K"
no, I can buy for less than 4k, so go die

"Obsidian Shards for 4k or more each"
why would I pay someone more than 4k when I can buy them from mat traders for 3.6k

I think all are just trying to rip me off for my money, if you're not going to accept my offer of 3k then don't post because everything you say just shows how much more stupid you are

"That only happens for maybe 5 mins max"
yeah nice assumption there jackass, I just went on (about an hour later) same price, 100g for each, so go die

saitoh_hajimi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Me/E

I actually agree with Juliana...
If we dont post, against anything other ppl say... then other ppl would be ignorant of the real value of the item.

Example: WTB Max Dmg Sword 15%>health for 50k. WTS Max Dmg Sword 15%>health for 50k.

Dont you think youd like to comment on the title ? whether, no u cant buy a sword like that for that much. Or youd say You can sell that sword a little higher.

Freedom of speech buddy

Divinus

Divinus

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Mississippi

Earlier the trader was selling Shards for 4.8k... Price is always changing. I sell mine for 4k, always have.

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

Join Date: May 2005

Lost in La-La Land

LFGuild

Mo/Me

The trader's price fluctuates, but my last ecto I sold to the trader got me 5k. If the trader only offers me 3k, I hold it for a day or 2 before I check again.

justinkim

justinkim

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Toronto

NES

Minimum price I ask for shards is 3.5k anything less the person is obviously a noob or trying to rip me off

ChildrenOfBodom

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by justinkim
Minimum price I ask for shards is 3.5k anything less the person is obviously a noob or trying to rip me off
well I made this thread a week ago, and like all of you are saying the price changes, and it was a lot cheaper a week ago... I stopped buying them from people anyways because they go a lot cheaper (cheaper than 3.5k even) later at night from the rare material trader, and it's harder to find them from people, with the traders you can just buy, buy, buy, buy, buy till you are out of money, with people you sit there and advertise and you get like 2 in an hour... the only things I got out of this thread are a bunch of shards (the glob prices shot up so high, I'll admit that now, best I get from a trader is 6.5k, a week ago it was about 4,014g) and that there are a bunch of ignorant hypocrite assholes out there that play this game (you guys)

seriously, you tell me these fixed prices on this shit then you go off and tell me "well uhh the price is always changing" well if the price is always changing and I made this thread a week ago doesn't that tell you something? plus you can't change the name of the thread. The only thing I know is I pwned you all, I pwned you with cold hard facts and all you fags could do was reply with a bunch of estimates and assumptions.

You all got pwned.

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

Join Date: May 2005

Lost in La-La Land

LFGuild

Mo/Me

I was not ignorant nor a hypocritical asshole. I merely (factually) pointed out that people can sell them for a higher price to the trader, which they can. They just have to be patient and hold them for the right time.

saitoh_hajimi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Me/E

ChildrenOfBodom, you are the most selfish person.. ive seen in this forum.

That goes without saying anything else.

PS Juliana was right about u. And the rest of us, are just trying to make u understand, but you refuse too. Are you by any chance a Warrior ? ops now i am being stereotype too. Lol , I kill me

eholt05

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

REM

W/R

There is absolutely nothing wrong with him wanting to buy shards for that price. Think about it... Where do shards drop? (fissure) how many ignorant low lvl people do you know that can get into fissure and get shards? (none) So how does a nub get his hands on a shard so he can get ripped off? (cant)

w00t.

EAT U ALIVE

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

LBS running academy

W/Mo

now the ecto is up to 7.5k WTF IS THIS

ChildrenOfBodom

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Quote:
Originally Posted by saitoh_hajimi
ChildrenOfBodom, you are the most selfish person.. ive seen in this forum.

That goes without saying anything else.

PS Juliana was right about u. And the rest of us, are just trying to make u understand, but you refuse too. Are you by any chance a Warrior ? ops now i am being stereotype too. Lol , I kill me lol, no I already understand the prices I posted were lower than what you can get, I've already said this if you have any reading comprehension skills you would have already picked this up, but they're sitting here labeling me shit that I'm not, like for example they're saying I'm a scam? which I'm not, the shards to me now are worth 3.5k, thats how much I'm buying them now, and I'm buying a hell of a lot for that price.. but... globs I've given up on for now, I got 7 total for 4k a while ago... and now they're soo damn expensive I don't even care, I'm just gonna wait until they go down

no, I'm an Elementalist, and you're retarded

ChildrenOfBodom

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by eholt05
There is absolutely nothing wrong with him wanting to buy shards for that price. Think about it... Where do shards drop? (fissure) how many ignorant low lvl people do you know that can get into fissure and get shards? (none) So how does a nub get his hands on a shard so he can get ripped off? (cant)

w00t.
yeah, exactly...

Borealis

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Black Rose Gaming

Mo/W

Funny, I just made 200k today off ecto alone.

firstwave

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

ChildrenOfBodom - I actually agree with you. Trading and Buying is all about getting the better deal, so who cares if your customers are igorant?

If people always get ripped off, then it is their fault for being unknowledgeable. the whole point of Player to Player trading is to earn profit while doing it. If everyone is selling everything at the exact same price, then what the hell is the point of selling them to players. If you look at real life, you can buy the same things for different prices in different locations. So is he exploiting? No, he is being a smart buyer.

If you all suck at trading then don't complain about other people. It is good that you are informing people, but don't disrupt other people's business.

Bash

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

N/E

Well...Personally, I think that if you offer to buy something for x price, and the other agrees, thats not scamming. I would think it would be scamming if the buyer/seller made the other person believe the item is worth so much more/less then what others think it is. Objects are only worth as much as you think they are. A +5 energy item may be worth 5 gold to me, but 100 gold to someone else. I think it really has to do how the trade went down, what was said, ect. Just because people like to sell or buy something for x price, doesn't mean that you have to pay that. Noone is forcing you to do anything. If you think the item you hold is worth more then what the person is offering, its as simple as walking away and trying to squeeze out some more cash. For example, I started buying wood planks for a little bit to make some money off of parchment. I remember seeing someone pay 6 gold each, which seemed fine, so thats what I offered. It wasn't until someone said people usually offer 8 gold when I raised it to 8 gold, without problem. I don't think wood planks are worth 8 gold, more like 5-6, but since people usually buy at 8, thats what I do. It really depends on how much you think its worth. People even go as far as thinking that +1% more on a mod on a weapon is worth 4320985729084 gold more then one thats not. Yes, people have favorites, and yes people like gaining money...but I think its personal preference that decides the price. If Childrens wants to buy some Ob shards at 3k or some globs at 4k, let him. If he doesn't want to pay more, he doesn't have to. Will he find as many sellers? Probably not. But I don't think its right to call it a scam just to offer less money for something. If that was the case, well, I guess everything in the world could be considered a scam. Just my $0.02. :Steps out of the thread:

ChildrenOfBodom

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bash
Well...Personally, I think that if you offer to buy something for x price, and the other agrees, thats not scamming. I would think it would be scamming if the buyer/seller made the other person believe the item is worth so much more/less then what others think it is. Objects are only worth as much as you think they are. A +5 energy item may be worth 5 gold to me, but 100 gold to someone else. I think it really has to do how the trade went down, what was said, ect. Just because people like to sell or buy something for x price, doesn't mean that you have to pay that. Noone is forcing you to do anything. If you think the item you hold is worth more then what the person is offering, its as simple as walking away and trying to squeeze out some more cash. For example, I started buying wood planks for a little bit to make some money off of parchment. I remember seeing someone pay 6 gold each, which seemed fine, so thats what I offered. It wasn't until someone said people usually offer 8 gold when I raised it to 8 gold, without problem. I don't think wood planks are worth 8 gold, more like 5-6, but since people usually buy at 8, thats what I do. It really depends on how much you think its worth. People even go as far as thinking that +1% more on a mod on a weapon is worth 4320985729084 gold more then one thats not. Yes, people have favorites, and yes people like gaining money...but I think its personal preference that decides the price. If Childrens wants to buy some Ob shards at 3k or some globs at 4k, let him. If he doesn't want to pay more, he doesn't have to. Will he find as many sellers? Probably not. But I don't think its right to call it a scam just to offer less money for something. If that was the case, well, I guess everything in the world could be considered a scam. Just my $0.02. :Steps out of the thread:
I love you dude... thats basically what I've been trying to say but they keep saying I'm "scamming by exploiting ignorance"... I mean, it's not like they ask me "how much are they worth?" I say a price, they say yes or no, and we all get on with our lives.

MCS

MCS

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

ZZZ Closed.

Stop your bickering.