Specs
Geforce FX 5200
900Mhz AMD T-Bird processor
Sound card is... Hold on a second
Windows XP
(My brother uses it
)Im not sure what it is, Im thinking its the sound.
Nasty lock-up!
DarkWasp
My second computer locks up when Guild Wars starts, every now and then it will give you three seconds or so.
Specs
Geforce FX 5200
900Mhz AMD T-Bird processor
Sound card is... Hold on a second
Windows XP
(My brother uses it )
Im not sure what it is, Im thinking its the sound.
Specs
Geforce FX 5200
900Mhz AMD T-Bird processor
Sound card is... Hold on a second
Windows XP
(My brother uses it
)Im not sure what it is, Im thinking its the sound.
fawgre
Could be that GW needs a 1Ghz processor. I mean, yeah, it's AMD, but GW and 900Mhz just might not jive.
Loviatar
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Originally Posted by fawgre
Could be that GW needs a 1Ghz processor. I mean, yeah, it's AMD, but GW and 900Mhz just might not jive.
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it is locking up not simply running the game poorly
DarkWasp
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Originally Posted by fawgre
Could be that GW needs a 1Ghz processor. I mean, yeah, it's AMD, but GW and 900Mhz just might not jive.
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And the SoundCard is Crystal SoundFusion.
I cant find the main website, and i dont know how to tell if its a 16 bit soundcard. Maybe i should switch to integrated.
DarkWasp
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Originally Posted by Loviatar
since the minimum is 800 and AMD puts out more per clock he should be fine on the processor
it is locking up not simply running the game poorly |
And my processor runs many games that require 1.4 ghz processors.
PhineasToke
Try double clicking on my computer, right click on the C drive and open properties and then the tools tab. Run a disc check (error checking) and check off both boxes, it will ask you to run on reboot, should correct any system errors. Also run defrag on the system, it will help greatly.
DarkWasp
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Originally Posted by PhineasToke
Try double clicking on my computer, right click on the C drive and open properties and then the tools tab. Run a disc check and check off both boxes, it will ask you to run on reboot, should correct any system errors. Also run defrag on the system, it will help greatly.
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But the trashcan takes like a minute to start, must be a fragmentation.
I will try to defragment now.
Sin
If it were me I'd look at all my drivers and bios before thinking it's the sound, unless of course that's the one thing you haven't been able to find drivers for.
PhineasToke
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Originally Posted by Sin
If it were me I'd look at all my drivers and bios before thinking it's the sound, unless of course that's the one thing you haven't been able to find drivers for.
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He may be able to update the drivers for XP compatability. One other point. If he ran scandisc, is the system still 32 bit or has it been converted to NTFS (which I doubt).
Sin
Okay hmmm, I just looking at the lock up. Many possibilities. He thought it was the sound so I was responding to that thinking. I tend to update everything thinking the new software like guildwars might need some more current information. But I'll just wait and see where it goes then.
DarkWasp
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Originally Posted by PhineasToke
I always recommend the bios be left alone. With a board that old, the updates that could be available may cause more trouble than it's worth.
He may be able to update the drivers for XP compatability. One other point. If he ran scandisc, is the system still 32 bit or has it been converted to NTFS (which I doubt). |
It used to be my computer and I ran alot on it, with integrated sound.
And the sound card is the most suspicous, because I tried Nvida 61 and 71 drivers. So I doubt its the card.
The C drive is very fragmented.
Darkmane
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Originally Posted by DarkWasp
Its FAT32, and I am familiar with the BOIS. The motherboard is a DFI AK75-EC.
It used to be my computer and I ran alot on it, with integrated sound. And the sound card is the most suspicous, because I tried Nvida 61 and 71 drivers. So I doubt its the card. The C drive is very fragmented. |
Sin
I was gonna send you to a drivers forum regarding your sound drivers but it's a pay site now 
Started about a year ago with an e-machine 566i, crystal audio on that one. Couldn't find the driver anywhere, looked under another name at those forums that used to be free and found the driver, that solved the problem. Anyway, let's see where what you're doing goes, maybe that'll take care of it right there.
*Edit* I am sure you are aware there is a compatibility issue with the gforce 5200 serious right? Mine is PCI and I haven't had a problem but that might be what's going on with yours. I believe there is info on that, or was, at the GuildWars main site. .
*Edit Again*
Started about a year ago with an e-machine 566i, crystal audio on that one. Couldn't find the driver anywhere, looked under another name at those forums that used to be free and found the driver, that solved the problem. Anyway, let's see where what you're doing goes, maybe that'll take care of it right there.
*Edit* I am sure you are aware there is a compatibility issue with the gforce 5200 serious right? Mine is PCI and I haven't had a problem but that might be what's going on with yours. I believe there is info on that, or was, at the GuildWars main site. .
*Edit Again*
DarkWasp
Thanks for trying Sin.. Its running off of windows drivers now. That may be the problem.
SubNote, The defrag is taking forever on MP3s, they dont look lime music files, they look like a sound library. They cant be that large but its taking forever to move them.
SubNote, The defrag is taking forever on MP3s, they dont look lime music files, they look like a sound library. They cant be that large but its taking forever to move them.
PhineasToke
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Originally Posted by DarkWasp
Its FAT32, and I am familiar with the BOIS. The motherboard is a DFI AK75-EC.
It used to be my computer and I ran alot on it, with integrated sound. And the sound card is the most suspicous, because I tried Nvida 61 and 71 drivers. So I doubt its the card. The C drive is very fragmented. |
Convert a volume to NTFS from the command prompt
Shut down any automated start programs like virus scans, chat programs, etc until the conversion is complete.
Open Command Prompt.
In the command prompt window, type
convert (drive_letter: ) C: /fs:ntfs
For example, typing convert C: /fs:ntfs would format drive C: with the ntfs format.
DarkWasp
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Originally Posted by Sin
*Edit* I am sure you are aware there is a compatibility issue with the gforce 5200 serious right? Mine is PCI and I haven't had a problem but that might be what's going on with yours. I believe there is info on that, or was, at the GuildWars main site.
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And toke, ive heard bad things about NTFS, most pcs stick with FAT32.
And i cannot afford to format unless the problem spreads out to more then Guild Wars.
PhineasToke
Regarding the 5200, neither I nor my friend whom I built 2 computers for with 5200's has had any problems. The problem lies in the newest drivers (71.84) not in the card. I still use 61.77 and they work great. Eariler versions back to 45.33 work great too on older, slower systems..
Sin
when you ran scan disk did it indicate any "cross linked" files or you just let it autofix and have no idea what all it fixed?
PhineasToke
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Originally Posted by DarkWasp
Mine is VGA and the problem on the FAQ has to do with invisable terrain.
And toke, ive heard bad things about NTFS, most pcs stick with FAT32. And i cannot afford to format unless the problem spreads out to more then Guild Wars. |
If you can give me exactly what sound card you have, I may have drivers on one of my library cd's.
DarkWasp
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Originally Posted by Sin
when you ran scan disk did it indicate any "cross linked" files or you just let it autofix and have no idea what all it fixed?
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PhineasToke
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Originally Posted by DarkWasp
Yes they were all crosslinked, it fixed them all, and they were temp internet files. And I deleted them anyway.
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Under "local settings" is a massive temp folder. You can delete everything except the cookies and temp internet files folders, and Zone alarm temp files if you are using it. The programs you see listed with folders will recreate those folders when you restart them.
DarkWasp
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Originally Posted by PhineasToke
You have one more temp folder to clean out that everyone neglects.
Under "local settings" is a massive temp folder. You can delete everything except the cookies and temp internet files folders, and Zone alarm temp files if you are using it. The programs you see listed with folders will recreate those folders when you restart them. |
Ah crap i cant find the hidden file optain Edit: FOUND IT!
PhineasToke
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Originally Posted by DarkWasp
Disk clean up said the temp was empty ill go check manauly.
Ah crap i cant find the hidden file optain AGAIN! |
Darkmane
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Originally Posted by Sin
I was gonna send you to a drivers forum regarding your sound drivers but it's a pay site now
Started about a year ago with an e-machine 566i, crystal audio on that one. Couldn't find the driver anywhere, looked under another name at those forums that used to be free and found the driver, that solved the problem. Anyway, let's see where what you're doing goes, maybe that'll take care of it right there. *Edit* I am sure you are aware there is a compatibility issue with the gforce 5200 serious right? Mine is PCI and I haven't had a problem but that might be what's going on with yours. I believe there is info on that, or was, at the GuildWars main site. . *Edit Again* |
Ps. Here is the link for the audio drivers for your board.
DarkWasp
Ive run that same setup in place of this computer and everything was fine. XP wise. Its not the board, i think its the sound card or hard drive. And posibly the ram stick oganization..
640mb of pc133 ram. 2 sticks of 256, and one 123.
640mb of pc133 ram. 2 sticks of 256, and one 123.
PhineasToke
For what it's worth, on a system as old as this one is a simple Sound Blaster 16 PCI from staples for $30 will work fine.
PhineasToke
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Originally Posted by DarkWasp
Ive run that same setup in place of this computer and everything was fine. XP wise. Its not the board, i think its the sound card or hard drive. And posibly the ram stick oganization..
640mb of pc133 ram. 2 sticks of 256, and one 123. |
http://yusoft.kulichki.com/english/diagsoft.htm
DIMM SPD v1.01 by Konstantin Aleshin - SPD detection on VIA PRO (596/586) and Intel PIIX
and here
http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/fil...0541&fileidx=1
Docmemory
removing the odd one will be more beneficial than retaining it.
http://www.benchmarkhq.ru/english.html?/sandradl_e.html
DarkWasp
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Originally Posted by PhineasToke
For what it's worth, on a system as old as this one is a simple Sound Blaster 16 PCI from staples for $30 will work fine.
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I could spend even less on one at my local walmart. I have a SoundBlaster Live LS in the PC im on, and it only costed 20.
And it runs guildwars. But im at a loss for money. If necessary ill switch to onboard sound, but im trying not to mess with the hardware.
PhineasToke
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Originally Posted by DarkWasp
I could spend even less on one at my local walmart. I have a SoundBlaster Live LS in the PC im on, and it only costed 20.
And it runs guildwars. But im at a loss for money. If necessary ill switch to onboard sound, but im trying not to mess with the hardware. |
DarkWasp
Im going to leave the defragmention on all night, i will tell you my outcome in the morning. Goodnight, and thanks for the help.
static deathbringer
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Originally Posted by DarkWasp
Im going to leave the defragmention on all night, i will tell you my outcome in the morning. Goodnight, and thanks for the help.
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if not try it, if you dont know how to do it its simple, go to run, type msconfig, and hit enter, then a box will come up, click on the start up tab, and uncheck everything that is not vital to your system, it sounds to me like your ram is tied up in other programs and when you try and start GW's it locks up because it cant find the avialbe resources, gw is a huge program and on my comp with 512 mb of DDR it takes almost 200 megs of that or more to run gw stabliy.
if you have further questions or what not feel free to PM me
DarkWasp
I think its the video card. It just gave me enough time to switch to window mode, and it worked, when i switched back to fullscreen, it locked again.