12 wins in 45 minutes?
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Is ZPZG Korean version of UbeR?
Darkest Dawn
I don't know, but I saw your guild rip it up with around 6-8 wins last night! You guys took the HoH from the Europeans fairly quickly! 
BTW congrats on your success.
BTW congrats on your success.
Sekkira
Hah, We just fought you guys with our PuG in one of the maps before HoH. GG there. You wiped out our little bone minion army we had going there in a flash @_@
Calrisian Nantos
Sissy Boys pwn! go team!
austinp
I agree, they need to check gvg matches and banish any guild that have exploited to rank up! I know for a fact zpgz is cheating because, at their rank is almsot impossible to find more than 2 fights for hour, and yesterday they won 13 fights in less than one hour, then today they won 10 and the day before they won 10 in 45 minutes. Is obvious they exploting and using another guild to rank up, i wish there was a way to check who fighted who. This just makes me wantto quit the game!
Mormegil
Totally agree with Sissy Boys.
Anet should take care of the bogus guilds as well. It's sad to see Negative Zero and Positive Zero, as well as 346728 versions of the friggin korean "War" clan.
Anet should take care of the bogus guilds as well. It's sad to see Negative Zero and Positive Zero, as well as 346728 versions of the friggin korean "War" clan.
Moskel
Its pretty easy to fix, just make all direct challenges unranked.
For a Rank 1600 guild defeating a newly created 1000 rank guild do you still get +3 or is it down to like +1? Does it eventually go to +0 for a win?
In chess (which is what this ranking system is like) it does reach the point where you would raise your ranking by 0 for defeating a significantly weaker opponent.
I guess this still doesn't prevent an exploiter (if they are at least above average) from running a new guild up to 15-3 or something for a 1250 ranking and then have the 1600 rank team pound on them a few times.
Looks like best solution is probably no ranked direct challenges if they want any sort of reality long term on the ladder, if not the ladder will turn into farming. To be #1 you'll just farm up a new guild to rank 1250, pound them a few times, wash/rinse/repeat. Your #1 guild will never fight a real match because that could cause a loss. Whoever spends the most time farming up mid-rank guilds to let their #1 rank guild defeat will hold the #1 spot on the ladder...ouch!
For a Rank 1600 guild defeating a newly created 1000 rank guild do you still get +3 or is it down to like +1? Does it eventually go to +0 for a win?
In chess (which is what this ranking system is like) it does reach the point where you would raise your ranking by 0 for defeating a significantly weaker opponent.
I guess this still doesn't prevent an exploiter (if they are at least above average) from running a new guild up to 15-3 or something for a 1250 ranking and then have the 1600 rank team pound on them a few times.
Looks like best solution is probably no ranked direct challenges if they want any sort of reality long term on the ladder, if not the ladder will turn into farming. To be #1 you'll just farm up a new guild to rank 1250, pound them a few times, wash/rinse/repeat. Your #1 guild will never fight a real match because that could cause a loss. Whoever spends the most time farming up mid-rank guilds to let their #1 rank guild defeat will hold the #1 spot on the ladder...ouch!
dbgtboy
most likely one member made a stupid fake guild and kept letting them challenge or something.
Jelloblimp
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Originally Posted by Moskel
Its pretty easy to fix, just make all direct challenges unranked.
For a Rank 1600 guild defeating a newly created 1000 rank guild do you still get +3 or is it down to like +1? Does it eventually go to +0 for a win? (...) |
asdar
Why would this make you want to quit the game? I don't even know where the ranking for GvG is let alone worry about it.
Challenge them with your guild and get someone that speaks Korean to post on one of their web sites how you want a direct challenge. Then you can beat them and show who's really number one.
I can't think that being number one on a web page is as fun as beating up on everyone consistently.
Challenge them with your guild and get someone that speaks Korean to post on one of their web sites how you want a direct challenge. Then you can beat them and show who's really number one.
I can't think that being number one on a web page is as fun as beating up on everyone consistently.
austinp
We try playing at all times, so we always have an eye on the ladder to see when it has the most movemnet so we can find fights. And even on primetime it take us over 25 minutesto get a a match. They wont give you a challenge. Most of the top guilds wont take challenges.
Epinephrine
Hmm, good points. No direct challenges being worth ladder position is fair, solves the issue.
taion
Considering the time it takes to even find a match, they'd have to be winning much more quickly than listed.
hydrak
What's up with the guild "War Machine Pride"?
They moved to the top with a 54-4 record by bogus challenges. Then they stopped playing with that guild name. Too much bs's with guild wars ladder system. Anet should remove ranking from inactive guilds. They should also lower the rank of guilds if they don't have at least 5 matches against guilds of similar ranks, weekly.
They moved to the top with a 54-4 record by bogus challenges. Then they stopped playing with that guild name. Too much bs's with guild wars ladder system. Anet should remove ranking from inactive guilds. They should also lower the rank of guilds if they don't have at least 5 matches against guilds of similar ranks, weekly.
UberRusty
Congrats on your wins Sissy Boys, I was just talking about you guys when your began your HoH win streak. :P
I think Moskel's idea is probably the safest idea. Otherwise exploiting will go to Hell.
I think Moskel's idea is probably the safest idea. Otherwise exploiting will go to Hell.
Sangui
I remember in the betas more than 2 guilds(top 10) were removed from the ladder thx to this kind of farming, hope them to be removed if they are really doing that, if not...gratz on your winning spree ZPZG.
I agree with Moskel's idea too to fix this.
I agree with Moskel's idea too to fix this.
Moskel
From today's ladder:
222 (-) Zpzg Guild ZPZG 1227 13 1
Biggest jump I've seen:
88 (+878) Promise Guild PG 1321 24 6
It would be cool if guildwarsguru.com archived the ladders, they can't take that much space to store? Maybe they are archived and we just can't see? Perhaps down the road some sort of line graph interface would be cool too, click a check box by some guilds and it'll chart their rank in a line over the course of time.
I'm just glad we got to see 3 full player teams yesterday and got in one real good back and forth fun match. Despite the flaws of the ladder GvG is still a blast. The real difference for me over HoH is with GvG unless you really get mowed by the enemy you have time to adapt battle plans to see if you can turn the tide of the war around to favor you.
222 (-) Zpzg Guild ZPZG 1227 13 1
Biggest jump I've seen:
88 (+878) Promise Guild PG 1321 24 6
It would be cool if guildwarsguru.com archived the ladders, they can't take that much space to store? Maybe they are archived and we just can't see? Perhaps down the road some sort of line graph interface would be cool too, click a check box by some guilds and it'll chart their rank in a line over the course of time.
I'm just glad we got to see 3 full player teams yesterday and got in one real good back and forth fun match. Despite the flaws of the ladder GvG is still a blast. The real difference for me over HoH is with GvG unless you really get mowed by the enemy you have time to adapt battle plans to see if you can turn the tide of the war around to favor you.
DrSLUGFly
zpzg is zippy ziggy... one of those retarded "cute" avatar companies...
Swarnt Brightstar
LOL!
that's so funny ^^ a 'cute' avatar company
Oh nope wait that's UbeR in korea ^^ j/k just thought that was sooooooooo funny
that's so funny ^^ a 'cute' avatar company
Oh nope wait that's UbeR in korea ^^ j/k just thought that was sooooooooo funny
DrSLUGFly
not sure why, but Korean's are really big on cute avatars and characters. And brand names... put the two together, and damn, you got a guild that cleans up in PvP!
Red Locust
I can't believe GW doesn't have ladder rank decay over time. What kind of half-decent ladder doesn't have that? Get to the top spot and you're guaranteed to be there for life...lol.
blackEyEz
I think its one of the most ridiculoud ladder I have ever seen, thanks to guildwarsguru we can at least see if teams rised or dropped. But who won what? and against who?, what team comes from what nation?
I think GW will be taken seriously as PvP when observer mode/practice area is built into it and im not taking the ladder serious until their is a referee observing it. I mean if Holland won vs Germany in soccer but their is no footage , no ref was present and no audience. Is anyone taking this serious?
Anet maybe this is something...
http://www.teamwarfare.com/ladderlist.asp
I think GW will be taken seriously as PvP when observer mode/practice area is built into it and im not taking the ladder serious until their is a referee observing it. I mean if Holland won vs Germany in soccer but their is no footage , no ref was present and no audience. Is anyone taking this serious?
Anet maybe this is something...
http://www.teamwarfare.com/ladderlist.asp