How does everyone feel about monks offering their services for money?
I mean, they did go through the trouble of making their monks so maybe some sort of reward is justified.
Then again, they are rare to find and should join the spirit of the game and help out others.
What do you guys think?
Monks and Getting Paid
Crix Lionheart
Reppyboyo
Why shouldent warriors be paid for their controbutions?
Or even rangers, neceomancers, elementalists or mesemers.
You get my point.
Or even rangers, neceomancers, elementalists or mesemers.
You get my point.
_Zen_
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Originally Posted by Crix Lionheart
How does everyone feel about monks offering their services for money?
I mean, they did go through the trouble of making their monks so maybe some sort of reward is justified. Then again, they are rare to find and should join the spirit of the game and help out others. What do you guys think? |
kaizermach
Maybe pay those elementalist, monks, necros, warriors to not be dicks, leave at first death, and play strategically without running out and aggroing everything? Oh wait, they're called henchmen and they're free.
Moskel
Paying an experieced team leader/mission guide is much more worthwhile than paying a Monk (unless that Monk is also leading you through the mission). A good player playing anything bringing Alesia will be able to get you through just as good if not better than paying a Monk that may keep you alive but doesn't know where to go or how to fight the given enemies.
That being said, rather than paying people consider looking for a good active guild who can help you with tactics/strategies or firepower if needed to get past whatever you're stuck on.
That being said, rather than paying people consider looking for a good active guild who can help you with tactics/strategies or firepower if needed to get past whatever you're stuck on.
gogoblender
Hey guys!
I've always kind of felt that a player's "role" so to speak...was one that he felt like playing...and one that he found to be rewarding when playing with friends and as evinced by community support of his actions.
I mean...he can always ask
and we can always say no
It always was and always will be the community that will allow this or not...
And we will choose to pay or not...
Hey guys...whatever happenned too the NHL?
gogo
I've always kind of felt that a player's "role" so to speak...was one that he felt like playing...and one that he found to be rewarding when playing with friends and as evinced by community support of his actions.
I mean...he can always ask
and we can always say no
It always was and always will be the community that will allow this or not...
And we will choose to pay or not...
Hey guys...whatever happenned too the NHL?
gogo
Shadowsting
A monk asking for payment is like an elementalist asking for 5 platinum for their nuking services. It's just stupid and immature. The problem is that while one can survive without a competent nuker or tank, healing is almost always a necessity. Not much we can do about it unless we report every single mercenary monk to A-Net........
OrangeArrow
A monk who needs to get paid rather then go smite and farm for more money probabaly isnt a very smart Monk IMO
theclam
I would never accept money for my services. I'm not a mercenary. No one should pay a Monk, either, since it just encourages him to charge the next time he groups.
Principa Discordia
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As I monk myself I have to say... Not a chance. I wouldn't even accept payment if it was offered. Thats the role I picked to play and so it is then my job to pay it. No offence intended but thats like paying the warrior to be the meat shield, the ele to nuke, mes to hex and inturupt, necro to steal life and ranger to lay traps and such... just doesn't make any sense to pay someone for playing their role...
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I too would never take any sort of "payment" for my services. I may be crucial to the group's survivability sometimes, but so are all classes. I think that any monk who demands a wage for their services is greedy and that people should ignore them and find a real monk.
Addition: Besides, I was under the impression that all group members got paid anyway. Everyone in a group gets a share of the gold and the loot as assigned by the server.
Sanji
Healers will charge money in Video Games as long as they're in demand and woefully unpopulated. Not much anybody can do about it in the long run. Sure you may fight it on an instance by instance basis, but that's not going to stop it.
_Zen_
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Originally Posted by Principa Discordia
I play a monk myself, a smiting monk, but sometimes I switch to a protection healer depending on my mood.
I too would never take any sort of "payment" for my services. I may be crucial to the group's survivability sometimes, but so are all classes. I think that any monk who demands a wage for their services is greedy and that people should ignore them and find a real monk. Addition: Besides, I was under the impression that all group members got paid anyway. Everyone in a group gets a share of the gold and the loot as assigned by the server. |
gogoblender
lol, and what if this monk has all the money in the world...but...he charges simply because he IS the best!
And...after him giving demo of his services to yer party...you all realize...in secret terror..that he IS the best~!
And that this monk...this mercenary so to speak...could give you those wins!
A few more notches in the belt...
Gosh maybe a rung on the ladder!
heh, scary huh
gogo
And...after him giving demo of his services to yer party...you all realize...in secret terror..that he IS the best~!
And that this monk...this mercenary so to speak...could give you those wins!
A few more notches in the belt...
Gosh maybe a rung on the ladder!
heh, scary huh
gogo
Principa Discordia
And just because "he is the best" doesn't mean he needs to be paid. As a monk, I find the best reward in my profession is the knowledge that I've done such a damn good job and not played-up my skills or abilities. Just the fact that I've done my part and we've come out on top is good enough for me, the thrill of victory and the spirit of co-operation.
Of course, some people don't see it that way. I call those people penny-pinchers.
Of course, some people don't see it that way. I call those people penny-pinchers.
Crix Lionheart
Thanks for all your answers.
Thats the impression I got too.
Thats the impression I got too.
Nexx
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Originally Posted by kaizermach
Maybe pay those elementalist, monks, necros, warriors to not be dicks, leave at first death, and play strategically without running out and aggroing everything? Oh wait, they're called henchmen and they're free.
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... come to think of it. It is hard to find a human monk on the last stages of the game. Very hard.
Digitalblast
Every single person in the game should pay to get IN a group. Each person pay each other member 1000 gold. Problem solved.
gogoblender
Hey guys!
Cooperation, teambuilding, community and friends...all great reasons to play...and even greater reasons to understand why we crave diversity as well as a mixture of different playing styles and the success that non-
mainstream thinking can give to enjoyable gaming.
lol, this is why when a monk approaches me and offers his services for money
I politely decline.
Why?
Simply because his playing style is incompatible with mine, lol, and not cuz he's a criminal.
Cheers!
gogo
Cooperation, teambuilding, community and friends...all great reasons to play...and even greater reasons to understand why we crave diversity as well as a mixture of different playing styles and the success that non-
mainstream thinking can give to enjoyable gaming.
lol, this is why when a monk approaches me and offers his services for money
I politely decline.
Why?
Simply because his playing style is incompatible with mine, lol, and not cuz he's a criminal.
Cheers!
gogo
DarrenJasper
When I see an opportunity to make some extra chump change, I may as well exploit it. Most of you would, too. No amount of blacklisting or outspoken criticism is going to change the fact that there are not enough monks to go around, and desperate groups are willing to compromise. Sorry.
Just think of it as another money sink
Just think of it as another money sink
Epinephrine
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Originally Posted by DarrenJasper
When I see an opportunity to make some extra chump change, I may as well exploit it. Most of you would, too. No amount of blacklisting or outspoken criticism is going to change the fact that there are not enough monks to go around, and desperate groups are willing to compromise. Sorry.
Just think of it as another money sink |
Esprit
Like said before, the reward is keeping your party alive, especially during a difficult fight. Also the rare thanks or gratitude for healing is also part of it. Just knowing that I hold the party together, sometimes, during fights is a pretty good feeling. So getting paid for your profession, when others aren't, is not right.
Aloren
I never bother to ask for "compensation" I chose monk because it's a fun and challenging class to play.
Drakron
I must be tried because I keep reading the title as "Monks and Getting Laid" ...
Sir Skullcrasher
Forget those monk, i'll just take retarded Alesia with me to all my trips.. unless im damn rich than i'm not paying them 15k or more just for one mission or quests! 
Lief
I'd leave/punt/laugh at ANY class that asked for money to do a group quest, if you need them to do you a favour, then sure.
stumpy
monks are not in demand because everyone in there god given mind has 1. Every member of my guild has a variation of a monk. They shouldn't be paid imho ... but thats just my opinion.
However, the actual *job* of servicing yourself as a mercenary is deeper than you touch here. There is no fishing, no mining, no nothing, so someone who found a job as a mercenary for hire ... well ... is just trying a different aspect. I don't necessarily agree with it ... but thats how it goes. As long as there is a demand for it, you'll always have people running people to droknars, running people to the ascention quests, you name it.
Thats not my idea of fun, but some people really dont have anything else to do at this point. I dont do it ... but then again I got a good guild.
However, the actual *job* of servicing yourself as a mercenary is deeper than you touch here. There is no fishing, no mining, no nothing, so someone who found a job as a mercenary for hire ... well ... is just trying a different aspect. I don't necessarily agree with it ... but thats how it goes. As long as there is a demand for it, you'll always have people running people to droknars, running people to the ascention quests, you name it.
Thats not my idea of fun, but some people really dont have anything else to do at this point. I dont do it ... but then again I got a good guild.
Pevil Lihatuh
i'd refuse payment on my monk. I play the class coz i enjoy it and i want to be good at it. Not to mention you'd immediately get all sorts of people making monks simply for easy cash, or you'd get people who are rubbish at keeping you alive, then if you don't pay them, guess what? You got griefers on your hands.
to my mind it should be as it is in Sacred; i.e. you help people out by giving them items that you get which are of more use to them, and people will remember that and give you things that are of use to you. or even better yet; you are given the gift of actually playing in a team that is fun and can work together.
now i can understand a bit more if people get paid to show others where certain towns and outposts are.
to my mind it should be as it is in Sacred; i.e. you help people out by giving them items that you get which are of more use to them, and people will remember that and give you things that are of use to you. or even better yet; you are given the gift of actually playing in a team that is fun and can work together.
now i can understand a bit more if people get paid to show others where certain towns and outposts are.
gogoblender
Hey Pevil!
*huggies*
Awesome seeing you here dudette!
I agree too ...It'd be better if we didn't have to pay...over all, I think it'd make fer a better feel...and karma tends to travel..
BUT...
...I"m thinkin this is a complicated guestion...and that it's not as easy as calling a monk a mercenary...but instead...this could be about the relationship between monks in the past and how they were treated by their team mates.
So...if we weren't to accede to a rising demand from monks for money...my question would now be...
How do we reward MOnks for seemingly thankless work that is absolutely necessary?
What language can we use while in a party to show apprecation for this class while also telling them that we need healing?
lol, sounds like we need a HOw to Show Yer MOnk I Love You Guide...
Anyone?
gogo
*huggies*
Awesome seeing you here dudette!
I agree too ...It'd be better if we didn't have to pay...over all, I think it'd make fer a better feel...and karma tends to travel..
BUT...
...I"m thinkin this is a complicated guestion...and that it's not as easy as calling a monk a mercenary...but instead...this could be about the relationship between monks in the past and how they were treated by their team mates.
So...if we weren't to accede to a rising demand from monks for money...my question would now be...
How do we reward MOnks for seemingly thankless work that is absolutely necessary?
What language can we use while in a party to show apprecation for this class while also telling them that we need healing?
lol, sounds like we need a HOw to Show Yer MOnk I Love You Guide...
Anyone?
gogo
Pevil Lihatuh
lol well its true, monks get more abuse than anything (though i've been lucky so far, found someone that was a good teamworker to do a few missions with).
sure there needs to be some love shown to monks, but if a monk is actually charging... well its not really love. people will pay it just coz people are under the impression that without a monk you'll die within 2 seconds no matter where you are. Whereas if you happen to just reward them at the end coz you enjoyed it/they were good... well so be it. and that goes for all classes, including us poor rangers that no one likes simply coz you dont SEE our arrows!
sure there needs to be some love shown to monks, but if a monk is actually charging... well its not really love. people will pay it just coz people are under the impression that without a monk you'll die within 2 seconds no matter where you are. Whereas if you happen to just reward them at the end coz you enjoyed it/they were good... well so be it. and that goes for all classes, including us poor rangers that no one likes simply coz you dont SEE our arrows!
Night Daftshadow
i think the idea of paying someone for their services is ridiculous. but it's their choice to pay someone for help, guiding, or whatever. but as for monks asking money to provide their services to a group is outright wrong. in my opinion, if these particular "hire for service" monks continue to abuse this, i think ArenaNet should see it as a form of exploit. they should make the hench monks more powerful such as more HP, stronger armor, and more mana. this way, more groups are willing to bring a monk hench in latter missions as this is where these "hire for service" monks start to appear.
Starsky-sama
A monk asking for payment is just "sad". also those monks who (ive heard from other posts) stop in a the middle of a mission and ask for payment to continue, and if arent paid, will leave....if that happened...*goes into the ignore list...
id pick "mhenlo/lina" over any money-hungry monks any day. somtimes not all human monks are reliable.
(with all this talk of a monk shortage -- i have a smiter atm and it's pretty fun to solo actually.)
id pick "mhenlo/lina" over any money-hungry monks any day. somtimes not all human monks are reliable.
(with all this talk of a monk shortage -- i have a smiter atm and it's pretty fun to solo actually.)
Miss Puddles
all profs have SOME self-healing abilities, several have a few spells to heal others (ie healing spring, well of blood). granted these aren't as effective as having a full-time healer in your group, but i am so sick of people saying, "OMG liek we only have 1 munk we r so gunna die!!!11! i have leik no skill in my own prof!!!11!" having 2+ monks in your party at all times is a <i>luxury</i>.
that said, i think it is just plain stupid for monks to ask for payment or people to offer payment to monks or any other prof for that matter for completing task X *coughlornarspasscough*
it is almost impossible to guarantee payment or that your mercenary will not just up and leave after their down payment is given. why add unnecessary distrust and hostility to the game?
that said, i think it is just plain stupid for monks to ask for payment or people to offer payment to monks or any other prof for that matter for completing task X *coughlornarspasscough*
it is almost impossible to guarantee payment or that your mercenary will not just up and leave after their down payment is given. why add unnecessary distrust and hostility to the game?
Pevil Lihatuh
lol im right with you miss puddles. from day one its been nothing but omg, we have things other than monks and warriors, we'll never survive... it's almost pointless having the other 4 professions as far as peoples mentality goes.
Fantus
I don't want to be paid for my services - I just want to be part of a nice and compentent group that's all. But some people are rude enough to monks that one would be tempted to charge them for each healing spell...
mr_pollock
If people are willing to pay monks for their services, fine.
I personally don't pay them.
I personally don't pay them.