Skills - Signet Of Midnight

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Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

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greenknight777

greenknight777

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Iron Curtain

Me/E

Malus Phasmatis - Perdition Rock - Phantom

Rieselle

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Melbourne, Australia

E/Rt

Duration of the blind?

Mercury Angel

Mercury Angel

Avatar of Gwen

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wandering my own road.

Recharge time is now 15 seconds, blindness is also 15 seconds.

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Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

Signet of Midnight {E} + Plague Sending/Epidemic, is blind really worth an elite slot?

D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E

D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

its a monks defense vs warriors coming after them; quite annyoing.

portiadude

portiadude

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2005

Danmark

Signet of Midnight + Spirit of Failiure + Mantra of Inciptions = Floding on energy as you in theory could keep the warrior or ranger constanley blinded. Plague Touch or Plague Sending and you can keep multiple targets blinded.

And blind is one of the best way to keep a warrior unable to fight.

audioaxes

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

may work in trying to use this in random but any good monk in organized pvp is going to remove the blindness

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Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

Used this in 4x4 random with Price of Failure and Plague Touch. Very cruel, two warriors are kept at bay easily. It's similar to bringing Imagined Burden or Crippling Anguish. They need to be able to self remove hexes and conditions or they get owned.

QuixotesGhost

QuixotesGhost

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by audioaxes
may work in trying to use this in random but any good monk in organized pvp is going to remove the blindness
You're the mesmer... so why isn't the monk shut down? A diversion thrown the monks way after you've thrown on the blind can work wonders.

Quote: Blind for 15 seconds and recharge of 15 seconds sounds good to me -- slap on Empathy for ~30 dmg per swing and those stupid Warriors will simply kill themselves -- whilst the 90% miss chance from Blind ensures you won't get hit =) It's redundant. Shut the warriors offense down then just leave them alone and save them till last.

Quote:
Signet of Midnight {E} + Plague Sending/Epidemic, is blind really worth an elite slot? It is if you can take care of condition removal. You can pretty much shut down two guys for free, minimal time and energy involved. Then you can spend the rest of the time shutting the rest of the team down. There've been times where I've had blind on two guys, backfire + diversion on the monk, whilst guilting and powerleaking an offensive caster all at the same time.

knives

knives

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

USA

Grenths Rejects [GR]

Me/

Quote:
You're the mesmer... so why isn't the monk shut down? A diversion thrown the monks way after you've thrown on the blind can work wonders. Umm..mend ailment still removes the blindess, even if you do divert it, the warrior will be free to attack you unless you run distortion. W/Mo's with purge conditions also do so.

Also the popular W/N combo with plague touch (a non elite) makes yours worthless. There are better elites out there.

QuixotesGhost

QuixotesGhost

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by knives
Also the popular W/N combo with plague touch (a non elite) makes yours worthless. There are better elites out there. Diversion + Plauge Touch it right back.

knives

knives

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

USA

Grenths Rejects [GR]

Me/

But...your suppose to be shutting down that monk or ele? Not the warrior..

audioaxes

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

ya id like to see a mesmer have all that ready. A warrior can destroy a mesmer in seconds if it isnt ready to devote stopping it. And if it does that you cant effectively shut down a good monk that can still find room to operate under backfire/diversion spamming. A mesmer's only saving grace is having its own monk to protect him.

Damion Soulbreaker

Damion Soulbreaker

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

The Black Hand Gang - [BHG]

Me/N

Actually, one of my friends was getting flamed by a Tank in the game (of course he was a mes) so he challenged him to a scrimmage. Signet of Midnight complete destroyed the Tank considering he couldn't do anything but swing and miss

Retribution

Retribution

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

R/W

Signet of midnight is still a trash elite, your friend challenged him to a scrimmage knowing he had several ways to win. If the warrior brought an interupt or condition removal as he should've, your friend would be eating dust. This skill reminds me of Broad Head Arrow, would be good if it wasn't for the fact that conditions are so easily removed.

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

Most monks aren't going to care if you put diversions on them >_> They inspired hex some teammates hex, boom...diversion has nothing to divert because inspired replaces itself. you diversion them again? they just cast the hex they inspired earlier. By the time you are rdy to divert them again with normal recharges, inspired hex is probably back and the process repeats.

So saying divertioning the monks will make this elite a good one...is "meh" at best.

Where this has seen play is in the Alliance battles, because of the randomness of it all, and in RA where no monk is there most of the time to remove blind.

Hundbert

Hundbert

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Former Ruling
Most monks aren't going to care if you put diversions on them >_> They inspired hex some teammates hex, boom...diversion has nothing to divert because inspired replaces itself. you diversion them again? they just cast the hex they inspired earlier. By the time you are rdy to divert them again with normal recharges, inspired hex is probably back and the process repeats.

So saying divertioning the monks will make this elite a good one...is "meh" at best.

Where this has seen play is in the Alliance battles, because of the randomness of it all, and in RA where no monk is there most of the time to remove blind. I agree with you former ruling.

The problem with this skill in more serious pvp is that most teams that focus on damage with physical attacks (warriors, ranger, assassins) will have external condition removal. Draw conditions is used alot on support charachters.

On the other hand.. signet of midnight + mantra of inscriptions can be used over and over every (5 seconds or so) without using any energy. If the monk is the only guy with condition removal (in team arenas this is sometimes the case) it's simply not going to be enough.

This skill is godly in random arenas or alliance battles.
Also quite useful in team arenas.
Not so useful in gvg or heroes ascent.

I actually like this skill alot. It combines well with many hexes like empathy, spiteful spirit, spirit of failure, price of failure, reckless haste to name a few

arredondo

arredondo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Try SoM+Resilient Weapon+Resilient was Xiko... a permanaent +8 regen that can't be enchant stripped. Using that combo, here's an awesome and unique Signet of Midnight build I made. Enjoy.

By the way, any serious Diversion build will come with Mantra of Recovery. That's a Diversion cast every 6s which easily overpowers the once-every-20s IH cast (which can be interrupted once the Mesmer catches on BTW).

Mistical miss

Mistical miss

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands - Hattem

[RR]

My assassin uses dignet of midnight now and then,
Signet of Midnight + Some signet that deals xtra dmg when the target is blinded + a signet that removes a condition if your enemy has a condition. Its an ok skill in the chaos of alliance battles, where u can sometimes just fight one on one.

The truth itself

The truth itself

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark

First Degree

Mo/

This skill is useless, and it needs buffing.


Blinding Flash > Signet of midnight.

It's a terrible skill, 15 recharge?
Any monk will remove the blindness after a max of 3 seconds, and then you have to wait 12 secs.

All this talk about diverting the monk, nope. There are tons of more efficient warrior shutdown skills, not to mending conditions are the most easy removable hate in the game.

Damion Soulbreaker

Damion Soulbreaker

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

The Black Hand Gang - [BHG]

Me/N

But if you were going solo up against a mesmer you most likely wouldn't be worrying about Conditions. You're thinking: "Hmm, mesmer, most likely hexes". And not every monk is smart enough to bring a condition removal, ive been in one too many PUG groups to kno that....

Pick Me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Thornill, ON, Canada

THE CANUCK MONKS (TCM)

W/R

Hmmm....

Me/N:

Signet of Midnight - wait for it to be removed - Plague Touch + Phantom Pain + Shatter Delusions. Monk removes Deep Wounds. Blindness is still on Warrior.

Mantra of Signets, Mantra of Inscription, Keystone Signet/Echo.

You can keep the monk busy trying to cure the Warrior or the monk will give up and heal others, allowing the warrior to be blind (while the assassin attacks the blind warrior to death. )