Insane costs for useless items

I have a simple question.

Why is it people are demanding 4k for a stupid vile of dye? or 10k for a bow?

These items have no value, and rarity means nothing in this game. This is almost as bad as Diablo 2 and the stones of jordan.

I see people all over the place with Firey dragon swords, chaos axes and storm bows, and yet, people insist they are not only rare, but worth 10 platinums.

whats worse, people are selling items for over 100 platinums! where is the sense in that?

these are utterly USELESS pieces of NOTHING. Honestly nothing in this game should cost more then 5 platinums in, or out of the store. Otherwise the loot we aquire should be sold for more gold.

isn't your very last statement contradictory to your entire point?

what matter for items is not the item itself but the mods on it...say you just get a white norma chaos axe...thats going to be signfically less than say a Chaos Axe with Perf Vamp 3:1, perf +hp, and perf +dmg %. and people price is so high cuz they CAN. People are WILLING to pay for that much for an item so why not sell it at the highest price?

Why is everyone demanding high prices? Simple, people will buy it at that price.

Lots of demand, scarce items, not hard to guess what the result is.

Are you sure it wasn't a Vial of Ink? Cos that's a rare crafting material for monk armor and worth quite a bit. More than dye for sure. Not 4k though, last time I checked with the rare material trader.

The prices are also high because gold is so easy to come by There is too much gold in the game so a lot of people can and will pay more. I managed to easily make over 100k in just over 2 weeks play, and I wasnt even trying too hard.

Even if you have 100k it'd be stupid to buy these items from humans at rediculous prices when you can get them much cheaper from a trader.

It's just that some newbies (both on the selling and buying side) are not aware that you can get many things cheaper from traders, crafters and collectors.

Actually, last time I checked black dye was worth 4,000 gold at the dye trader... basically it's popular. When demand goes up, prices do too...

I agree, prices can get insane.

But thats market for you.

Regards, Ashleigh.

Gold has no value in this game. Its easy to get a lot (allthough I must admit I never have more than like 20k because I'm too lazy to spend time trading ) and there are not much ways to spend it. A 15 k armor can be obtained by collectors. You can infuse it by doing a quest. Other items like weapons, rods and shields can have ultimate stats for one particular profession, and than they are worth a lot. Allthough they may seem not very spectacular for those who dont care much about details (and in fact I doubt if its really worth it if you only play pve). Also many players like to LOOK great. So they pay a lot to find a shining sword, dye of the right color (especailly black), if it fits their fashion... I would not care if I were you, unless you have problems obtaining something you think is 'common' because the price is so high.

I have a proposal, to get rid of some of all that gold. They should start out a marked for Random items. It should a sort of gambleng, where you would have to pay for an uncertain item, which might be good as wel as bad, these items should only be collectable at a Gambler, so you would have to gamble to get some of these items. This could eventually remove some of the gold in a short while (if the prices is put high enough.)

I too think it is insane with those high prices, maybe you should remove the trade option completely to make sure you created your character totally on your own.

How can you compare dye to stones of jordan... SoJs were currency in d2 until runes took over not a useless item. Not only were they currency they were very commonly used.

That being said, spend your money how you want, we'll spend it how we want.

This thread is spam everyone that comes on this site who can't afford something makes this thread.

Items are worth as much as players are willing to pay for them.

some items should cos over 10plat. becase with some items you have to go to the uw for them...rare drops down there to.like a storm bow

I think some of the problem, unlike SoJs in D2, is that there are too many things being used for currency. There are simply too many rare, seldom-seen items in the game. I don't think it's a bad thing. After all, there are so many cool things to make and so many different types of characters and many different things need to be around. However, to get the economy in balance, something, and I don't know exactly WHAT, needs to be done.

It's bad enough that the economy sucks IRL now we have to face an equally stinkin' economy in our GAME too! :P

The economy is set by the players, not the game. Therefore, if you don't like the price of an item then don't buy it. If enough people followed this simply rule then the prices will drop.

Well, the players don't actually have any control over the economy because you can't just make everybody not buy something or make everybody put stuff at a certain price, etc. People are logical and they will follow simple rules like supply and demand if they act logically. However, items like fiery dragon swords, chaos axes, etc are way overpriced (i'm not talking about the ones that have perfect +health, etc). Some people are selling mediocre dragon swords to newbies for high price.

I don't get what's the big deal about fiery dragon swords. They usually have 10 req. and come with no mods...

On other hand I have found swords with way better stats and the only diff. is no glow :/

The players are in control and logic has nothing to do with it. If someone wants to overcharge for an item then simply don't buy it. They will eventually lower the price.

As far as other items such as dye and runes then those prices are set according to how often they are sold to the merchants. If only a few people sell them to merchants then the price will be high. If someone attempts to sell a vial of dye for more than what it would cost to buy it from the merchant then either buy it from the merchant or don't buy it at all. If you give in to the over priced seller then we, the players, are causing the problem. Not the game's fault.

Exactly. This reminds me of situation that happened to me while at Lion's Arch. I wanted to buy a shocking bow string and some trader offered to sell it to me. I asked him "for how much?" and he replied "1.5K". I knew right off the bat that bow strings of this type (fiery, icy, ebon, shocking) do not cost this much. Only morons would buy it for this much. I thought to myself this bastard is trying to rip me off. I replied back to him "this is ridiculous, I thought bow strings go for around 400-700g. A bow string should not cost more than 700 at most". He said "you thought wrong my friend". So I left, and went on to do some quests. About an hour later I came back to Lion's Arch and I saw him now offering the shocking bow string for 500g. And I said to myself "what an SOB!".

Yesterday I saw a funny thing at Ascalon City. There was this guy actually enforcer traders to offer reasonable selling prices of their items. He was actually monitoring the traders to see if they are offering overpriced items that shouldn't cost more than what they are really worth. And if someone was overcharging an item, he would announce it in the chat channel in all caps, LOL. It was pretty hilarious.

That guy you mention sounds like a idiot with way way too much wasted time on his hands. And the guy that started this thread reminds me of some of the people I run across when trading.

For instance I had a shield 16armor +1 death magic and +15 health I was selling. Guy asked me how much I wanted and I said 2k. Which then led to this little kid spamming me and the chat channel with jew jew jew jew.

Here is the bottom line you should all follow and it should negate any further discussion:

NOTHING SELLS FOR MORE THAN ITS WORTH. - im sure thats a concept that will confuse some of the kids, but, it is what it is and its right on the money ill help our less literate understand it.

If you want too much it wont sell. If you find the person with the dough that needs that item and will give you 300k then all is fair and fine. The bar is not set by "have nots" and never has been. If you dont have alot of dough you dont set the market price for anything and your bitching wont help you either.

I totally agree. If nobody buys the items, the price will drop dramatically, then people will start buying them again, then price will rise. Its a cycle called inflation. If somebody is selling something at a higher price than you think its worth, dont buy it. Even better, start a good group and go to UW yourself. Pay the full price for your group so they will be good, and let loose

I give away my fair share of good items, and often sell things much lower than most other people are. However, imho nothing with max stats should go for less than 2k. I'll often set that as my base price for anything with max stats, regardless of whether it's lower or higher than what others are asking for the same item. And why?

It takes time and effort to get those items. If a person isn't willing to pay 2k for a MAX stat item, then they don't deserve to have it honestly. I can't stand it when I'm offering a max dmg sword or shield for 2k that can only be found late in the game and with much effort, and the person interested starts arguing how it's not worth 2k because it isn't gold or have a health bonus. Well if it's not worth it to you, then simple... don't buy it. Someone will come along who recognizes the value of the item and who does feel that it's worth it to them, and who might even think it's a deal at only 2k - and they'd be right.

Prices at the traders fluctuate depending on the time of the week and demand on the item. The rule of thumb is to take what the trader is selling it for and what they will buy it for, then split the difference somewhere in between for the asking price. However, I'll often get offers or complaints from those who are trying to rail me into selling it for less than the trader will give me for the item... unless I really like you or you're a friend of mine, then why would I want to do that? It may be monopoly money, but it is my recreational time that's being spent on getting the items and selling them, which has a value in itself. Devaluing what I'm trying to sell or berating me for being a rip off is devaluing my time and effort in bringing that item to your doorstep in the first place.

There are just as many "experienced" players out there trying to "rip off" sellers as there are buyers trying to gouge new players. The market would be a much better place if everyone respected each others time and effort in getting either the items for sale or the gold to buy them. I appreciate that it took the buyer a lot of time and effort to get up that 2k to buy this max weapon, and would appreciate it if the buyer did the same in recognizing what it took for me to bring it to them.

I hate these threads...

It's not so much that they're complaining it's because I KNOW if they found one of these "overpriced items" they would sell it for the same amount as everyone else.

That makes them giant hypocrites, congrats.

LOL. A Consumer Watchdog Guild anyone?

Thank You, This pretty much sums it up. ANYONE has the right to sell ANYTHING for whatever they want, the question is will someone buy it? Yes if you can find the right person. Stop complaining and go play GW. Have a nice day!

1) prices are naturally set by demand
2) you can progress fine in the game with cheap, clean items if you customize them

high-priced items are for perfectionists.

LOL! The original poster is probably a buyer. All the people complaining about high prices and how useless the items are are buyers. It's a useless item being sold for more than they can afford, yet they want it, so now they go in and complain. So it is not really useless, nor is the price high! I mean they want it! LOL!

I see them all the time. They see someone selling a collector item for 10plat, then they spam the channel saying its worth only two plat, they'll sell it for that. Then I go i'll buy it from you for two plat, and of course they never have any to sell! And no, i'm not the one selling. And it took me 6 hours to farm the rare materials I needed for my ascalon bow. BTW if you have the max collectors item for illusion cane and offhand, I'll buy it from you for 2k LOL! Prices will probably drop, but the last trade is always the correct price for these high level items. One month from now, when everyone has these max collector's items, then maybe the price will drop to 2k. But not today.

I myself have bought only the collector items and its worth the 12k I paid for it. Most items being sold are useless to me, but I don't go around whining about how expensive these "useless" items are!

So to the original poster, don't whine, just don't buy. They're useless anyway, right?

Exactly! Would I have bought a superior vigor back when it was selling for 90k? no.. would I have sold it.. yes

I dont see what the problem is.. you dont like the high price on somethin dont buy it... that was hard to figure out.