I've heard of all the money players have been making running kids from Beacon to Droknar's Forge and decided to try and get a piece of the action. But however hard I try to make it, I always die early on in Lornar's Pass.
Is there some sort of special trick to getting by? Is it just a matter of avoiding certain groups of monsters, using skills at the right times, or what?
Thanks in advance for the help.
Secret to Running Lornar's Pass
Crix Lionheart
Gara
A bit of both. I've tried running the pass, but as a N/E, i died very very fast.
I hear the kind of skills you need are ones like Charge and Sprint, and a stance so you don't get knocked down by those wyrms. Maybe some healing skills too. *shrugs*
I hear the kind of skills you need are ones like Charge and Sprint, and a stance so you don't get knocked down by those wyrms. Maybe some healing skills too. *shrugs*
Caco-Cola
Mending, Charge, Sprint, Healing Breeze, Unfalterable Stance (or something like that) anddd that should be it.
Zexion
It's called Balanced Stance.
And yes, those are the only skills needed.
And some henchies to take some fire for you:P
_Zexion
And yes, those are the only skills needed.
And some henchies to take some fire for you:P
_Zexion
wheel
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Mending, Charge, Sprint, Healing Breeze, Unfalterable Stance (or something like that) anddd that should be it.
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I'll post my running build like i have a million times.
Sprint, Charge, Balanced Stance, Endure Pain, Healing Signet, Healing Breeze, Mend Ailment, Smite Hex
16 tactics, 13 strength, 3 heal
superior vigor, superior tactics, minor strength, minor absorb
glad helm, knight gloves, plate rest.
Arrow Whisper
I tried making the run last night just to see if I could. I did it the first time with only one death. As a warrior with Charge, Sprint, Balanced Stance, Healing Signet and Healing Breeze it really wasn't too difficult. There are only a few places were you have to know the pathing and be patient.
DrSLUGFly
I asked this before, but I didn't get a solid response. Can you run alone? The last reply was yes, but what I mean is without henchmen. completely solo!
Esprit
Yes, you can run it without the need for meat shields.
Creston
Yeah you can, in fact, after the first two groups of monsters, the rusher will BE alone anyways. 
Creston
Creston
Ristaron
The only difficult part is 3/4 of the way through the pass, right before and right after the short cave. That's worm territory. Unless you constantly have on something that stops you from getting knocked over, and can keep yourself going to eventually lose the worms, you're screwed.
I went from Droknar's to Camp Rankor to Beacon's Perch the night before last with NPCs in a party of 8. We arrived with 60% DP, most of it from the two worms that jumped us right before entering worm territory, then the mob we had managed to bypass before on the way up the pass. Stupid migrating group of 1,000 grawls
I went from Droknar's to Camp Rankor to Beacon's Perch the night before last with NPCs in a party of 8. We arrived with 60% DP, most of it from the two worms that jumped us right before entering worm territory, then the mob we had managed to bypass before on the way up the pass. Stupid migrating group of 1,000 grawls
Crix Lionheart
Ok thanks for the info. But I'm having the most trouble with Dreadnought's Drift. (the short map part where there is a loop in the path). Everytime I die at this point because I am slowed down by enemy spells and overwhelmed. Is there a special strategy for just this part of the map?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
Arrow Whisper
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Ok thanks for the info. But I'm having the most trouble with Dreadnought's Drift. (the short map part where there is a loop in the path). Everytime I die at this point because I am slowed down by enemy spells and overwhelmed. Is there a special strategy for just this part of the map?
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Weezer_Blue
Dolyak Signet + Balanced Stance??
Van the Warrior
dolyak -75% speed
nechronius
That's the one thing that eludes me, is how people are avoiding getting mobbed after being cursed by slowness. Even if you remove the hex, another imp will cast something on you. By then you get hit by multiple creatures and it's just a few moments from horrible, horrible death.
I'll have to try again tonight for fun, but damn.
I'll have to try again tonight for fun, but damn.
wheel
FWIW, i run solo without hench. i take a party of 5 people who die and just watch me make the run.
WeiPing
Imps are always best avoided. Any more than 2, and you've got some serious bad news. When you get slowed, it's best to use that time to heal yourself if you can, or at least put up Disciplined Stance or some other spell that will prevent you from taking damage.
There's three imps right at the start of the Cave in Lornar's Pass...if they catch you, you're gunna have a bad time. Beyond that, imps aren't a huge problem. You'll get slowed down a few times, but just plan your approach to avoid as many of them as possible and you should be fine. Remember the ctrl key to see what mobs are ahead of you. It's much better to run through 20 bird warriors than 10 imps.
And yea, there's little trouble doing it solo if you know what you're doing. About the only thing I can't do completely alone is that section right after Camp Rankor on the way to Droknar, and then you just send the rest of your team to absorb Shadow blows while you sprint on past saving Balanced Stance for the next big group. It's all good.
There's three imps right at the start of the Cave in Lornar's Pass...if they catch you, you're gunna have a bad time. Beyond that, imps aren't a huge problem. You'll get slowed down a few times, but just plan your approach to avoid as many of them as possible and you should be fine. Remember the ctrl key to see what mobs are ahead of you. It's much better to run through 20 bird warriors than 10 imps.
And yea, there's little trouble doing it solo if you know what you're doing. About the only thing I can't do completely alone is that section right after Camp Rankor on the way to Droknar, and then you just send the rest of your team to absorb Shadow blows while you sprint on past saving Balanced Stance for the next big group. It's all good.
salja Wachi
yup the tengu right after camp rankor can be tough add in some azures with knockdowns and your day is ruined but once past those you ae in the clear. just 2 trolls to dodge and draknors here we come
mrip
My second character is a W/M who has not made it to Droknar's, or to perdition rock so I don't have Charge! or Balanced Stance. Is there a way to get these skills earlier on? I wanted to run myself to Droknar's but it doesn't make much sense if I can't get the required skills until I've been there already.
IxChel
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no. mending gets you killed because it eats up way too much energy.
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Sprint, Charge, Balanced Stance, Endure Pain, Healing Signet, Healing Breeze, Mend Ailment, Smite Hex 16 tactics, 13 strength, 3 heal
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I've also seen it done with a warrior/ranger. He said his build was Strength (11+2), Tactics (10+1), and Wilderness (10) and he did not use any superior runes to keep his HPs up there. His skills were:
Strength: Defy Pain (E), Endure Pain, Rush
Tactics: Ballanced Stance, Watch Yourself, Healing Signet
Wilderness: Troll Uguent, Storm Chaser
He'd use Troll Uguent when approaching groups, Storm Chaser to begin the "Sprint" process (Storm Chaser is like Sprint, but it gives energy on each elemental attack that you sustain). During heavy engagement he'd use Defy/Endure Pain (in sequence?), Rush, and Watch Yourself. Right after engagement, he'd use Healing Signet; and then Troll Uguent.
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When my character (Mo/Ra) sprints -- and I can make it though lots of stuff -- I use mending, storm chaser, and melandru's resilience. I like Melandru's resilience since it gives me lots of regen arrows when poisoned, bleeding, etc. Mending isn't enough arrows, but together with Resilience there is enough + regen to offset most conditions.
uigrad
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Mending is used by inexperienced runners. I'll join with Wheel -- I've never seen it work in Lomars. You need that precious energy for other stuff.
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I'm thinking of switching my secondary to Warrior, just so that I can practice making runs such as this. So, how would you suggest a Mo/W goes about this?
I'll be switching to Warrior, primarily for balanced stance. I don't think that the run is possible without that skill. Of course, I won't have much armor, but I can add a bunch of protection skills as needed. I would assume that the run would be best with 2 enchantments (mending and... ???). Any more suggestions?
Edit: I just noticed the rest of IxChel's post. Mo/R you say? That would be interesting. Would you recommend it over Mo/W?
IxChel
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I'll be switching to Warrior, primarily for balanced stance. I don't think that the run is possible without that skill. Of course, I won't have much armor, but I can add a bunch of protection skills as needed. I would assume that the run would be best with 2 enchantments (mending and... ???). Any more suggestions?
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Edit: I just noticed the rest of IxChel's post. Mo/R you say? That would be interesting. Would you recommend it over Mo/W?
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JoDiamonds
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My second character is a W/M who has not made it to Droknar's, or to perdition rock so I don't have Charge! or Balanced Stance. Is there a way to get these skills earlier on? I wanted to run myself to Droknar's but it doesn't make much sense if I can't get the required skills until I've been there already.
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taion
For the most part, unless the char has lv20 armour, you don't.
super dooper
I don't think you could run yourself there that early on, due to the lack of the.. required skills.
A W/anything could do it, when I do it with my W/Mo the only Monk skill I use is Mend Ailment for when I accidentally step on a Barbed Trap.
The only other class I've tried it with is my R/W. (switched back to R/Mo) He can do it, but he's alot more fragile than the Warrior. Though oddly enough he can do the Camp Rankor to Droknar's part better than my Warrior. (due to his evasiveness)
Charge! is popular because it stacks with Balanced Stance.
A W/anything could do it, when I do it with my W/Mo the only Monk skill I use is Mend Ailment for when I accidentally step on a Barbed Trap.
The only other class I've tried it with is my R/W. (switched back to R/Mo) He can do it, but he's alot more fragile than the Warrior. Though oddly enough he can do the Camp Rankor to Droknar's part better than my Warrior. (due to his evasiveness)
Charge! is popular because it stacks with Balanced Stance.
goldfinger
Shields up works pretty well too, considering how many projectiles come around.
Rhedd
A couple of friends and I did something rather fun last night that I'm amazed I've never heard of anyone doing... We went through Lornar's Pass... FIGHTING. No cowardly running. ^-^
Bring the right skills, the right party, and the right mindset, and it's doable. We made it, fought the entire way! (We were lvl 17-18, but lvl 20 when we got to the end! heh)
It's worth it for the sightseeing alone. There's a fantastic temple of Grenth in Lornar's.
Everyone should try it, just for kicks. And maybe you, too, can walk around saying, "I have a dead wyrm in my pocket."
Bring the right skills, the right party, and the right mindset, and it's doable. We made it, fought the entire way! (We were lvl 17-18, but lvl 20 when we got to the end! heh)
It's worth it for the sightseeing alone. There's a fantastic temple of Grenth in Lornar's.
Everyone should try it, just for kicks. And maybe you, too, can walk around saying, "I have a dead wyrm in my pocket."
JoDiamonds
So are the only people who run to Droknar's people who have already Ascended or gotten max level armor some other way? (Collectors?) What's the point?
I thought I'd seen some really low level characters in Droknar's before ... would that mean someone found five high level friends to just beat a path there?
I thought I'd seen some really low level characters in Droknar's before ... would that mean someone found five high level friends to just beat a path there?
salja Wachi
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For the most part, unless the char has lv20 armour, you don't.
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no such thing as "level 20 armor"
asdar
One person can run and the whole team gets through. That's how you see low levels there. Usually a runner has ascended but it's not a requirement. The skills you need can be had before ascension. It might be harder for someone that hasn't ascended or been to Droknars but still possible.
I fought through Lornars my first time. It's quite a trip. I liked the challenge so much I've done it five times. After that it gets boring, at least for me. It's still a challenge, don't get me wrong. There's almost always someone that thinks running is the way to go that doesn't have the setup for it.
The funny part is how many people think the first set of worms and the Avicara tunnel is the last challenge before the zone and that the zone is where Droknars is. I had one guy make it through and start bragging how he told us he could make it through and all that and then ask where the zone was. When I said it's that way about 5 times as far as you've gone he thought I was lying. Thought I was lying so much he started cussing me out because he thought I was holding back out of spite.
I fought through Lornars my first time. It's quite a trip. I liked the challenge so much I've done it five times. After that it gets boring, at least for me. It's still a challenge, don't get me wrong. There's almost always someone that thinks running is the way to go that doesn't have the setup for it.
The funny part is how many people think the first set of worms and the Avicara tunnel is the last challenge before the zone and that the zone is where Droknars is. I had one guy make it through and start bragging how he told us he could make it through and all that and then ask where the zone was. When I said it's that way about 5 times as far as you've gone he thought I was lying. Thought I was lying so much he started cussing me out because he thought I was holding back out of spite.
wheel
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There are probably many builds that will do the trick. However, I'm curious why you'd use Charge (high cost because it affects the entire party), when you could be using Defy Pain or Mark of Protection (with 0 protection skill).
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kingfencer
any runner can help me, i got through the first part, the worm in the small cave, the next part is hell for me. Where all the dwarves, dolyaks and bunched up togehter. There is no chance for survival.
Uldrath
I would like to challenge an Elementalist to make this run.
Excel
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any runner can help me, i got through the first part, the worm in the small cave, the next part is hell for me. Where all the dwarves, dolyaks and bunched up togehter. There is no chance for survival.
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Anyway this is an uncut and complete movie of the run from Beacon's Perch to Camp Rankor as a mo/w. There are a couple of skips in the movie due to max file size while recording with fraps is 4GB and an editing error at 7:52. Can't be bothered to render it again the uncompressed version was 38GB! It is still very large ~200mb and 17m 46s long movie, but smaller than my other movies if you look at the mb/m, this one is 11,5mb/m.
I used Divx 6, 1550 bitrate and 640*480, so if it doesn't work you'll probably need to update your Divx.
I even managed to get a movie of a scammer that didn't pay for the trip, I usually go by payment upon arrival in Droknar's.
If you're not afraid of big files and interested in how a monk can do the run just as well as a warrior then you can Grab it Here!
momo2oo2
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I would like to challenge an Elementalist to make this run.
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There was 2 Wamos, 2 Ele/mes (other fire and me earth/inspiration) lvl 19 both, a R/Ne lvl18 and a Mo/Ele lvl19.
We finished fighting for fun with 60DP and laughing for the difficulty. Revenge!!
All of them ended up in my buddy list of course
The Pope
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A couple of friends and I did something rather fun last night that I'm amazed I've never heard of anyone doing... We went through Lornar's Pass... FIGHTING. No cowardly running. ^-^
Bring the right skills, the right party, and the right mindset, and it's doable. We made it, fought the entire way! (We were lvl 17-18, but lvl 20 when we got to the end! heh) It's worth it for the sightseeing alone. There's a fantastic temple of Grenth in Lornar's. Everyone should try it, just for kicks. And maybe you, too, can walk around saying, "I have a dead wyrm in my pocket." |
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kingfencer
yeah, the problem is when i get to the part with all teh dwarves and dolyaks, they hex me to death, i'm a warrior ranger, i can't remove hex.... how do they do it???
Rethan Soulfire
You pretty much need to reach fire island, because you must have charge due to its synergy with balanced stance (sprint is a stance, charge is a shout so it stacks with no knockdowns). As above you must be w or /w at least. As for mending being newb, i have no issues on energy using mending, there is only two places that can kill you on the run, hitting a random barbed trap at the wrong time in lornars, and more than one summit arcanist in dreadnaughts. Snake dance has a couple of locations that can potentially be hangups but as a whole it has no randomness to it. And the only part in the talus chute is the beginning as mentioned, if you're dying and have all these skills (mentioned above) then you need practice or you just suck =p
Algren Cole
once I get my droknar army I will post a working build for this run using Ranger/Monk
kingfencer
thanks guy, i ran there!!!!, the reason i was stuck because i took the insanely hard path, there was another route, i thought about it but never tried it.