They are certainly not listning to the European lvl20+ PVE players who have completed the game and are asking for a chalenge. They have now realeased 4 more quests and they have put two of them again in two low level areas and two in the hardest area (great) but lets put them in the Fissure where Europe struggle to get into due to ownership.
Added new quests "Caravan In Trouble" in Eastern Frontier, "Family Reunion" in Sardelac Sanitarium, "Khobay The Betrayer" and "Slaves of Menzies" in Fissure of Woe.
Maybe im just a complainer whos getting bored stiff of Guild Wars now I have completed it in PVE.
Will I be buying the update Hmmmmm we will see
Who said Anet listen
Sandman Uk
DrSLUGFly
go into PvP and fight for your team.
I'm europe too...
I'm europe too...
crazy diamond
You know if there was ever a bad time to complain about Anet not listening, now would probably be it.
Immortal Flame
They just came up with the most extensive update since almost release. And theyre not getting paid for it. Appreciate it?
Rhunex
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They just came up with the most extensive update since almost release. And theyre not getting paid for it. Appreciate it?
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http://www.http://www.starsiege2845.com/splash4.html is a good example...full T:V conversion mod, all for free... and it looks like its going to beat its original
Anyways...if you're comlpaining about Europe not winning enough in HoH, therefore, not being able to get into the UW or Fissure, then you should quit complaining, get on a PvP team, and win in the HoH to earn the favor of the gods...
PieXags
Yeah sorry buddy but Europe and Korea were going back and forth through the HoH all day until the update.
There isn't a problem with Europe holding the HoH, it can be done. Just get some PvP players who enjoy that sort of thing.
There isn't a problem with Europe holding the HoH, it can be done. Just get some PvP players who enjoy that sort of thing.
Killion
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I do. I appreciate anyone who does game programming for free...
http://www.http://www.starsiege2845.com/splash4.html is a good example...full T:V conversion mod, all for free... and it looks like its going to beat its original Anyways...if you're comlpaining about Europe not winning enough in HoH, therefore, not being able to get into the UW or Fissure, then you should quit complaining, get on a PvP team, and win in the HoH to earn the favor of the gods... |
Rayea
well, they fixed the ashes problem, which is definately a good thing...
as they said, we need more PvP peeps in euro that *understand* PvP properly...im working on getting someone i know that rocks in PvP in games like neverwinter ect, to come try GW. hoping he can work his similar magic in the game, then teach people how to WIN ^^
(he is so good, that on his normal server in NwN, the bossess and areas are adjusted after he solos the bossess with new builds ^^ and then he tweeks em and we go round again ^^ lol....hope he has some insights for us here
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as they said, we need more PvP peeps in euro that *understand* PvP properly...im working on getting someone i know that rocks in PvP in games like neverwinter ect, to come try GW. hoping he can work his similar magic in the game, then teach people how to WIN ^^
(he is so good, that on his normal server in NwN, the bossess and areas are adjusted after he solos the bossess with new builds ^^ and then he tweeks em and we go round again ^^ lol....hope he has some insights for us here
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Dirkiess
Wow, is no one ever happy with anything Anet and the Guild Wars team ever do.
To be honest, I've never seen so many people whine and moan about everything and anything related to this game or any other game for that matter.
This isn't just pointed at this thread but every other thread in forums out there, where people are just not satisfied when something new comes through.
I congratulate ANet and the Guild Wars team for putting up with all the %&*@ you whiners and moaners give out.
I would just love to see the whiner and moaners produce a game, programmed, developed and released and then see your reactions to all the BS you guys come up with pointed at them for there efforts in there game.
Damn it people, stop the whining and moaning. If you keep it up, ANet may just think sod the lot of you and go off and start on something else.
I say congrats to Anet and the Guild Wars team for the work they do and putting up with everything they have too with you bunch of negative moaners.
To be honest, I've never seen so many people whine and moan about everything and anything related to this game or any other game for that matter.
This isn't just pointed at this thread but every other thread in forums out there, where people are just not satisfied when something new comes through.
I congratulate ANet and the Guild Wars team for putting up with all the %&*@ you whiners and moaners give out.
I would just love to see the whiner and moaners produce a game, programmed, developed and released and then see your reactions to all the BS you guys come up with pointed at them for there efforts in there game.
Damn it people, stop the whining and moaning. If you keep it up, ANet may just think sod the lot of you and go off and start on something else.
I say congrats to Anet and the Guild Wars team for the work they do and putting up with everything they have too with you bunch of negative moaners.
The undead Mesmer
they did listen to us pets are infused now 
spikydude
Anet if you read this, I just want to say thank you for the update. You may not read about alot of people who appreciate the updates, but I do. Keep up the good job.
Yes they did listen to the infusion of pets.
Yes they did listen to the infusion of pets.
Sunrazor
You know what? Even if this system has flaws, it's better than what we had before. I'd rather thank them for what they've done and suggest ways to improve it rather than just bitch about it. Don't complain about big steps in the right direction.
Weezer_Blue
I think they should remove the arbitrary Worlds at War favor system once and for all. It promotes racism ("damn koreans!" "**** europe!") and is just an overall waste of time. People say "go win us favor rather than bitching about it". Yeah, you try to win us favor with a PUG... idiots...
However, I think things may be looking up for Europe. Last time I played actively, I noticed that America had a total lack of favor. It was usually between Europe and Korea (korea for the most part). Anyway, good luck to you guys, and I hope this problem gets fixed eventually, along with the many others.
However, I think things may be looking up for Europe. Last time I played actively, I noticed that America had a total lack of favor. It was usually between Europe and Korea (korea for the most part). Anyway, good luck to you guys, and I hope this problem gets fixed eventually, along with the many others.
Black Forsaken
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I think they should remove the arbitrary Worlds at War favor system once and for all. It promotes racism ("damn koreans!" "**** europe!") and is just an overall waste of time. People say "go win us favor rather than bitching about it". Yeah, you try to win us favor with a PUG... idiots...
However, I think things may be looking up for Europe. Last time I played actively, I noticed that America had a total lack of favor. It was usually between Europe and Korea (korea for the most part). Anyway, good luck to you guys, and I hope this problem gets fixed eventually, along with the many others. |
crazy diamond
Lately its seems Euorpe and Korea duke it out during what is mostly the day for America, then at night the Americans duke it out with the Koreans, who apparently never sleep.
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They have now realeased 4 more quests and they have put two of them again in two low level areas and two in the hardest area (great) but lets put them in the Fissure where Europe struggle to get into due to ownership.
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Born
Arenanet has done a great job, some of it is due to people who post good ideas for them to use.
Ill never understand why one of the harderest areas in the game doesnt come after the end of the missions which is where it should be. Maybe next big update they can turn the temple into a lower group area and put fissure and underworld + all the gods in its rightfull place, a higher end game area.
Ill never understand why one of the harderest areas in the game doesnt come after the end of the missions which is where it should be. Maybe next big update they can turn the temple into a lower group area and put fissure and underworld + all the gods in its rightfull place, a higher end game area.
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Ill never understand why one of the harderest areas in the game doesnt come after the end of the missions which is where it should be.
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drowningfish999
I think they want people to be able to access those areas before they completely finish the game, as a way for PvE players to actually USE the equipment they find in the high level areas, since you will usually reach level 20 WAY before the end of the game.
And regarding Anet not listening, if YOU, Sandman, had "listened" or read more carefully, you would have noticed something alone these lines(original was removed from site):
"Don't worry all you PvE(RP?) players with your obsidian armor, your next."
They already said after they do the major PvP update, they will move on to PvE. So quit your complaining and get over it.
And regarding Anet not listening, if YOU, Sandman, had "listened" or read more carefully, you would have noticed something alone these lines(original was removed from site):
"Don't worry all you PvE(RP?) players with your obsidian armor, your next."
They already said after they do the major PvP update, they will move on to PvE. So quit your complaining and get over it.
Drakron
Those are bonus maps but they are PvE maps that depend on PvP results.
Tombs is either Guild Training Grounds or Guilds alternative to GvG, PvE have no longer any reason to enter Tombs and saying "go there and win favor" is complety missing the point ... if you get favor (meaning a 4 wins in a row) you cannot leave because by the time you get a group for Fissure or UW favor is gone or almost.
Tombs is either Guild Training Grounds or Guilds alternative to GvG, PvE have no longer any reason to enter Tombs and saying "go there and win favor" is complety missing the point ... if you get favor (meaning a 4 wins in a row) you cannot leave because by the time you get a group for Fissure or UW favor is gone or almost.
DrSLUGFly
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Anet if you read this, I just want to say thank you for the update. You may not read about alot of people who appreciate the updates, but I do. Keep up the good job.
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to Weezer, I agree. I live in Korea and the thought of spurring more korea vs. america racism is frightening to me, because in korea all white people are americans, and korea isn't the most cosmopolitan of countries. But I think that this system is way to deeply ingrained to be altered in any serious way. This, actually, is part of the reason for my Factions thread, I hope to (for PvE sake) draw a little attention away from silly nationalism and within a server be able to fight for your fictional gods.
Drakron
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And most players with obsidian armor (fissure armor) are american and korean armor so basicly that means we european get screwed ... again.
Switching servers is starting to look good idea ...
crazy diamond
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Born
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Because its optional. Meaning that you don't need/have to go there unless you realy want to. A lot of people plow through the missions and never even realize that they were so close to such high leveled areas during their visit to Kryta.
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After the last mission you should goto "a temple" with the gods and the highest/hardest quest area in game and not before.
crazy diamond
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For that matter almost everything in the game is optional, you can skip missions/go around, make a pvp only and not have to do any missions at all if you want, theres no real set path.
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Not everything has to always be progressively harder and in a clear-cut fashion. Just don't go there until you've cleared everything else if it bothers you so much.
Some people like the challenge of getting in over their heads at early levels.
Born
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And if they did that people would complain that the game is too linear and confining.
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If you have even played the game it IS already progressively harder as you go through the missions now.
You can have the best of everything and be 20/200 and get in over your head in the first 10 seconds in either of the 2 zones now.
Sandman Uk
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And regarding Anet not listening, if YOU, Sandman, had "listened" or read more carefully, you would have noticed something alone these lines(original was removed from site): "Don't worry all you PvE(RP?) players with your obsidian armor, your next." They already said after they do the major PvP update, they will move on to PvP. So quit your complaining and get over it. |
I was speaking on a PVE point and have been since the last 6 updates that have gone out. PVE LVL20+ players that have completed the game seem to have been over looked. Yeah we have fissure and Underworld when we have favour.
I am not keen on Guild wars style of PVP play so stop telling me to go play it. I want to play PVE and dont want to be forced into PVP to progress in PVE. I have said it to many times to keep repeating it.
Doent make sense that again the new quests are in low level areas??? They still have quests to do. The two in Fissure will be good when Europe can get at them. And I am told the Sardelac Sanitarium just to rub salt in Europes wounds wont be available till we hold the HOH.
So make you mind up at that most valuable time European PVE players
Quest or Fissure/UW But I shouldnt worry the quest should be able to be completed before the timer counts you down and into the UW
Great touch Anet
Feli
I'm no prophet but i know where those two new areas are going. Yep that is right - into the temple of ages, bound to the favor system. We still have 2 unfinished Gods in there, don't we? How many areas are supposed to come? 2.
I've allready stated my opinion many times about the WaW System. And i doubt it will ever change, even though it is strongly encouraging racism.
Sidenote to those arrogant PVPers telling the PVErs to go and win the HOH. Burn in Hell for your arrogance. You don't want to do the PVE Part at all, do you? No problem, your dearest will fix that right away. PVErs don't want to to the PVP Part at all, do they? Well, uhm... Arena.net won't listen. And the PVP Playerbase says with a nasty grin on their ugly faces: "Go PVPing, win the favor for your country it is so easy! (NOOOOB that you are, damn pver!!!)"
Every Update so far helped the PVPers, but nerfed the PVE Side. So it is clearly to see where Arena.nets Focus ist. Get rid of the annoying PVErs that want new content now and then - head back towards the PVPers who are satisfied with the same map and same old things over and over and over again.
I've allready stated my opinion many times about the WaW System. And i doubt it will ever change, even though it is strongly encouraging racism.
Sidenote to those arrogant PVPers telling the PVErs to go and win the HOH. Burn in Hell for your arrogance. You don't want to do the PVE Part at all, do you? No problem, your dearest will fix that right away. PVErs don't want to to the PVP Part at all, do they? Well, uhm... Arena.net won't listen. And the PVP Playerbase says with a nasty grin on their ugly faces: "Go PVPing, win the favor for your country it is so easy! (NOOOOB that you are, damn pver!!!)"
Every Update so far helped the PVPers, but nerfed the PVE Side. So it is clearly to see where Arena.nets Focus ist. Get rid of the annoying PVErs that want new content now and then - head back towards the PVPers who are satisfied with the same map and same old things over and over and over again.
Shadow_Avenger
The 2 new areas are actually set in the Shiverpeaks.
I doubt they will be favor of the Gods related, and hope they are not.
The have also stated that the PvE is due an update shortly aimed at ascended characters.
I doubt they will be favor of the Gods related, and hope they are not.
The have also stated that the PvE is due an update shortly aimed at ascended characters.
Sandman Uk
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So it is clearly to see where Arena.nets Focus ist. Get rid of the annoying PVErs that want new content now and then - head back towards the PVPers who are satisfied with the same map and same old things over and over and over again.
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Hmm PVE Costs to update.
But remember ANET who will be buying the new update? Because PVP players will be happy in their little bowl.
Born
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I'm no prophet but i know where those two new areas are going. Yep that is right - into the temple of ages, bound to the favor system. We still have 2 unfinished Gods in there, don't we? How many areas are supposed to come? 2.
I've allready stated my opinion many times about the WaW System. And i doubt it will ever change, even though it is strongly encouraging racism. Sidenote to those arrogant PVPers telling the PVErs to go and win the HOH. Burn in Hell for your arrogance. You don't want to do the PVE Part at all, do you? No problem, your dearest will fix that right away. PVErs don't want to to the PVP Part at all, do they? Well, uhm... Arena.net won't listen. And the PVP Playerbase says with a nasty grin on their ugly faces: "Go PVPing, win the favor for your country it is so easy! (NOOOOB that you are, damn pver!!!)" Every Update so far helped the PVPers, but nerfed the PVE Side. So it is clearly to see where Arena.nets Focus ist. Get rid of the annoying PVErs that want new content now and then - head back towards the PVPers who are satisfied with the same map and same old things over and over and over again. |
Maybe they need to make PVP harder for anyone who hasnt completed the last mission by making them do more maps or something before they get a try at hoh
There's no logic to the favor thing if it doesnt work both ways...
DrSLUGFly
HoH should be an end-game reward for having gained the "approval" of the gods (ascension).
crazy diamond
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crazy diamond
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I think you may have a valid point there Feli. The PVP robot button bashers dont complain and they can knock up another small arena to keep them happy once every 6 month.
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Maybe instead of trying to please both sides they should keep intertwining both in such a way that it will blurr the line until you can't tell the difference anymore. Then people wont know what to complain about.
freshman384
Ok, I like PvE much more than PvP (that said to clear away all the "go away you arrogant pvper" crap)
I remember learning what I could about Guild Wars before it was released and everything I ever read, ESPECIALLY information coming from Anet, seemed to emphasize over and over the PvP aspect of the game.
What am I saying? If you didn't think that Anet had a particular preference for the PvP aspect over the PVE aspect, then you have been fooling yourself. You should have known and expected this before you even bought the game. Dont come whine about something you should have known way before this game was released. Or actually learn about what you are buying first. Dear God, people! Think!
..thats all, flame away
I remember learning what I could about Guild Wars before it was released and everything I ever read, ESPECIALLY information coming from Anet, seemed to emphasize over and over the PvP aspect of the game.
What am I saying? If you didn't think that Anet had a particular preference for the PvP aspect over the PVE aspect, then you have been fooling yourself. You should have known and expected this before you even bought the game. Dont come whine about something you should have known way before this game was released. Or actually learn about what you are buying first. Dear God, people! Think!
..thats all, flame away
Reiden Argrock
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I love it!!
but am wondering what would happen to ToA if no WoW, would they just up the price, and anyone could go anytime? then what would be reward for holding HoH?
Talesin Darkbriar
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They are certainly not listning to the European lvl20+ PVE players who have completed the game and are asking for a chalenge. They have now realeased 4 more quests and they have put two of them again in two low level areas and two in the hardest area (great) but lets put them in the Fissure where Europe struggle to get into due to ownership.
Added new quests "Caravan In Trouble" in Eastern Frontier, "Family Reunion" in Sardelac Sanitarium, "Khobay The Betrayer" and "Slaves of Menzies" in Fissure of Woe. Maybe im just a complainer whos getting bored stiff of Guild Wars now I have completed it in PVE. Will I be buying the update Hmmmmm we will see |
STFU and just pay your monthly dues...oh wait...wrong game, sorry.
GW is free online... so the financial benefit to ANEt to patch it is?
Now shoo ~ go away.
Talesin
Mistress Dasha
lol just be thankful they have a PvE aspect of a game called Guild Wars...
EternalTempest
I completely disagree with the statement there not listening; Arnea.net has developed one of the best feedback systems I've ever seen.
Arena.net has found a way to get accurate player response / vibe of there game from there players directly.
Here's why, they have no direct way of contacting the developers for X idea would be great. Otherwise they be flooded and have to sift through massive email as well as the suggestion that break game balance aka I want x class to beat all.
So they have the system set up for elite / official forums and they let it be known that they are monitored. This allows fan sites run by guild wars fans have forums on all topics. They assign a rep(s) to each forum. With open debate by the people who play the game covering every angel. The forums self censor them self’s against ideas of X sucks, get wow, or why can't x beat all.
Now each rep pulls stuff like hey, people are talking about this (and other reps) find the similar ideas / change going on and realize the people who play, want it.
Not only that, since popular idea’s get debated so well among the people directly, I almost bet that the some issues the developers had the players figured out how to fix from the forums.
Thank you again Arena.Net for coming up with this unique feed back system.
I have never seen a game changed for the better as quick as GW and I've been playing a lot of games over many years.
Arena.net has found a way to get accurate player response / vibe of there game from there players directly.
Here's why, they have no direct way of contacting the developers for X idea would be great. Otherwise they be flooded and have to sift through massive email as well as the suggestion that break game balance aka I want x class to beat all.
So they have the system set up for elite / official forums and they let it be known that they are monitored. This allows fan sites run by guild wars fans have forums on all topics. They assign a rep(s) to each forum. With open debate by the people who play the game covering every angel. The forums self censor them self’s against ideas of X sucks, get wow, or why can't x beat all.
Now each rep pulls stuff like hey, people are talking about this (and other reps) find the similar ideas / change going on and realize the people who play, want it.
Not only that, since popular idea’s get debated so well among the people directly, I almost bet that the some issues the developers had the players figured out how to fix from the forums.
Thank you again Arena.Net for coming up with this unique feed back system.
I have never seen a game changed for the better as quick as GW and I've been playing a lot of games over many years.
Sandman Uk
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What have I from a PVE lvl20+ in Europe got to sing about. All the updates have mostly been about Pleasing the PVP whiners. Where I come from its the squeeky wheel that gets oiled.
Oh wait a min I just noticed something from the last update, They have put something in for us lvl20+ European PVE players
damn nearly missed it
WE CAN NOW ALL START DANCING IN SYNC
If ya bored have a dance you see it more and more now in outposts
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I have never seen a game changed for the better as quick as GW and I've been playing a lot of games over many years..
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