Question about trading

I was selling an item for 200k... I got offered 180k and took it.

So we decide that I would offer my item, and he would give me 100k and 5:1 vamp string as collateral. Then he would buy back the string for 80k. All good

So we do the 100k plus string exchange, then the guy says thx for trading... I say WTF.. you said you would buy back the string etc etc.. a few choice words i threw in though :P

So what can i do about this.. I took screenies of the convo etc.. can I report this guy?.. or am I just **** out of luck? cause this sux.. I didn't need trades.. I am getting rid of items for guild money etc.

Advice appreciated.

What on God's good Earth where you trading for 200K?

The rip-off artist meets the scammer. Sounds like a match made in Heaven.

There should be a section with the title "cry babies".

All the time its never their fault.

Beramee DID you or DID you not assume a RISK when you made the trade that way? Of course you didnt! Nobody ever does. Next one of these I read im going to have to spam it with the definition of risk.

Other than that all I can tell you is YOU hit the ACCEPT button. What YOU deem as a fair is not universal............God I would hate to have the job of answering these peoples pleas for punishment everyday.

Props to you Orderless. Here, I'll do it for you.

RISK: A factor, element or course involving uncertain danger; hazard.

Right on smitty. Sooner or later some of these fellas are going to learn that if you dont want to get burned you stay away from the fire.

For the record though I do not and never will support scammers, it just happens that not only do I lack support for "victims" (used real loosely here) I feel they are a bigger hazard to the game.

BTW smity I have found a sword recently which I have been told is worth between 150 and 250k so its quite possable Beramee had found something like that. So try thinking (if thats possable) before posting

Yes Spike, it is p-o-s-s-i-b-l-e to think before I post and I just did so.

If A-net had even the slightest inclination that any 1 item in their game would be worth more than 100K, would they limit the amount of gold one could carry?

I agree people are just plain dumb for paying those prices, so you can't blame the seller, but really now, do you expect sympathy for the seller?

To the original poster...... You can sell that vamp string for 80k pretty easy in the later areas.

even more boggling , how did someone GET 200k?
i mean, i struggle to get 10k never mind 200 lol

Its called Ebay and for 9 to 10 dollar,you can buy 120 k for your account.

Mb you should try thinking? Here I will even give you something to think about.

Examples of legitimate grevinces would be hacking into a account and taking the money, stealing someones acct or spamming a lobby with racial slurs. Those are real abuses.

What you describe is childish I will explain this so even the kids will understand. To play guildwars YOU are NOT required to use TRADE. It is an extra feature. So you decide to use the trade and you assume a risk. you dont want want to work to get to droknar or find the item you want so YOU decide to take a easier route.

Now your asking the gw staff to wade through your petty little trade disputes and mediate them. What a crock. Imagine this you got a guy making 40k a year working on solving problems and his email is filling up with this drivel from little babies who think he should fix THEIR mistakes. Look here is the bottom line. YOU make it harder for people to do their jobs with your endless complaints about how you were wronged. Which you already know was because you assumed a risk and now expect them to hold someone liable.....Over what a couple grand of online fake money that you obviously didnt care enough about to becareful with.

You disgust me. I firmly believe that each and everyone of you that bog down the gw staff with this garbage should be flogged in public then made to sleep with the pigs for a few nights, then mb you can think of a ligitimate grip. Right now you got nothin but cry baby syndrome thats getting pretty old. I read these forums everyday in hopes to better my knowledge of the game and each day there is more and more babies on here diluting the content with your senseless drivel

^^Interesting post, the topic creator probably can't think logically right now since he's so pissed off about the trade. And to the topic creator, you can sell the 5/1 bow upgrade for 80-100k easily in LA dis 1.

lol.... OMFG HE SCAMMED YOU OUT OF -20K REPORT HIM!

Seriously mate you're getting more than 180k.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=21172

Btw don't trade with newbs, they lower your IQ.

^^I'm confused, you're talking as if I did the trade with him when I've never met the topic creator before.

I forgot I quoted you to yell at you for breating me to pointing out that the string is worth at least 80k.

Stop being so greedy and charging more then a person can carry and bingo Gone is the problem. So help me god if Arenanet increases the gold limit in inventory to cater to these hoarding inflating bastards, Well I don't know what I would do. But I can imagine the worst terrorist impersionation I can think of. I know they will not though so I feel prety good about things.

when you ID an item and see the BASE value of those Items THAT is the value to base profits off of. in some of you peoples opinion some things seems fair to you to trade for 1500% profit. you people make me SICK.

Ah I see...

God forbid we base value off of supply and demand.

Got a 20% sword pommel of enchanting? I'll gladly pay 375 for it.

no I don't but I have GIVEN away those to people both in and Out of my guild. This is EXACTLY why we need a NPC to handle that stuff so the maket is based on TRUE supply and demand, not on Inflation player vendors. the Rune Trader did that and suggestions are in play for the Weapons crafter as well. see here. . it took time but fair markets finally started coming in line, when people like myslef started dumpping runes on the market through the trader to keep the prices down. and Arenanet themselves have done this as well.

I severly doubt you've given away 20% sword pommels of enchanting.

There is a collector that will give you an ascalon bow (short bow flight statistics) in mineral springs that has 15% damage while health is above 50% for like 5 mino horns or something.

People will still pay 500k for a short bow or halfmoon with this mod.

As long as people will pay it the price will not go down.

Selling items for more then 100K is just useless, if you really think it's worth more then the 100K, just let him add an item. You'll get screwed anyway... And I think you've just lost the item, he wont get banned or anything, since you can't prove anything But well, 100K is pretty much anyway, so you shouldn't be sad anyway !

generally speaking I have given away almost every item in the game at one time or another. I don't sell stuff unless I need a little bit for something from a NPC and I'm desperate. but our people in our guild give tons away all the time. 98% of the time I can get gold from members and in turn I give gold when they need it. so its rare that I need anything from anyone item or gold wise. I PLAY THE GAME.

Heck I gave both a superior Vigor and a Superior Absorption out to a fellow guild member that didn't have it yet, and wanted it for their PvE character just recently. I unlocked both and found both so I had it. and I gave it to him. with no problem at all. Why? cause he is a good guy and helps other guild members as I do all the time. I in fact thought he had already unlocked it and didn't know he didn't. so he and I proceeded to go out and get it for him that day in a matter of a few hours he had the vigor unlocked at least.

today we went and won a few guild battles and 2 he won twice in hall of heroes and unlocked the absorption rune.

WOW!!!!.. ok.. so you guys just wanna abuse people for asking questions.. (not talking to people who answered without slander)

I was selling an item based on current price trends, much like dye at the trader, it is based off current trends... so in some peoples opinions here that would make ANET a bunch of ripoffs because the dye traders etc are ripping people off?

another point was that trading is optional.. of course it is.. but that makes the game... otherwise it would be a once through game or a pvp only game.. trading is part of GW otherwise it wouldn't have been implemented in the first place.

So I guess your answers are.. you a tool for trading items at market value... your a tool for trading, your a tool for asking questions in the questions and answers forum.. basicly people must have no idea that this game is a mmorpg instead of a pvp game. Trade makes the game playable longer. Or you just hate the fact that you can't sell or buy good items, and want everything cheap. Buy a house, a Car, raise Kids.. for 5 gold.. :P Life aint cheap and niether should good items in a game be for a mmorpg, other wise the game would last 1 week before everyone had the best of the best.. and gameplay woould be no more fun.. what would you strive for?

Well I will not ask anymore questions here as most of the answers i got had no relation to my question, and this shows the maturity of the posters. BUT thanks to the people that posted legitimate responses.

Don't mind Orderless. He keeps posting the same bitter comments over and over again. The problem here is that items are worth what people pay for them and if people are willing to pay 200K for an item then that is fine. The issue is that the game doesn't allow for that much money to be kept on person as one time obviously and that is something that they should try to fix in the future. Orderless you keep saying you assume risk repeatedly, but you assume risk in anything you do (going outside, going to the movies, going to the bathroom cuz there may be a snake in the toilet....) Just because risk is assumed by action does not mean that you cannot attempt to find retribution. If you don't like these kinds of posts then don't bother reading them. The title is pretty clear in most and your comments are belligerent at best. Be an adult and move on.

I doubt you can report the guy. You can say whatever you want in chat, but a trade isn't a trade until you both put your offers in the Trade window and clinch the deal with that Accept button. And when you do do that, that's your signature on the contract, as it were -- you've just agreed that you're willing to make that deal. Whatever was said in chat is irrelevant. If someone says in chat they'll give you 500gp for a rune, but when the trade window comes up they only offer 400gp and say they've changed their mind, well, they're free to do that, and you're free to either accept or cancel, but it ain't a "reportable" offense.

In this case, the problem is, you're thinking you arranged one trade with this person, but in fact you arranged two. You arranged to sell him an item for 100p and a bowstring, then to sell a bowstring for 80p. He accepted the first trade, then rejected the second. He's free to do that. Again, there's no offense here to report, people can say they'll trade things with you in chat all they want and then not actually do it. It's sad that people can give their word and then break it, but c'est la vie...

Look, the bottom line is A-net limits the amount of gold you can carry. A-net does not see this as a problem because A-net does not want items being traded for these amounts of money. They will allow it, but frown upon it. It's player risk.

This inflation promotes farming for gold, it promotes botting to farm for gold constantly. Another option to attain this amount of gold is to grind... grind... grind.

The other alternative is to e-bay gold for real money.

After their experience with the Diablo2 item fiasco, they cannot possibly want nor promote the above-mentioned courses of action to attain gold, can they?

Look at their patches. They continually try to make items, runes, etc. easier to attain to eliminate the grind mentality, eliminate the need for bots, e-bay etc.

If A-net facilitates the skyrocketing prices for items to continue in its present fashion, then this game is done. It will be no different than the blokes that made those ridiculously unattainable runes in D2, which really could only be attained unfairly. Shame on Blizzard for doing that.

This game will be divided into two sub-cultures. The casual gamer who can compete as easily as the hardcore player, as A-net promised, and the elitist mass production guilds who gold farm incessantly by whatever means neccessary, can buy any item they desire, set prices at vendors to exclude non-elite players, etc.

If A-net increases the capacity to hold gold, then they will have tipped their hand. They should be careful here.

I was going to argue with you Dreamsmith because verbal/written agreement was made via the chat and if we're going into contract law then that would be considered the terms, but unfortunately your point is absolutely correct because the screenshots of the chat are submitted by the complainee and therefore could have been altered

Does anyone know if chat and/or trade transactions between players are recorded. I know they were for EQ and it made it easier for EQ GMs to get players back their items when trades went bad because they could refer back to their own logs to verify if the complaint was legitimate or not.

I laugh at people who sit here and say that nothing should be sold for over 100k. Obviously people who are not very far in the game because if you want the nice armor from Fissure, with crafting materials and cost, you are going to be over 100k pretty easily. Just because you don't have an item worth that much, or don't have the cash to buy an item worth that much, does not make someone else selling it wrong.

All I can say for the thread creators cause, is that at least you will get your money as soon as yousell that string, so you actually will probably end up better off keeping it than him buying it back for 80k. Just my 2 cents.