So i scammed some guy... is it really my fault?

HellRaiser

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Zodiac braves

E/Me

Is it a scammers fault if they steal from the intelligent?
So i tell this guy if he rushes me to kryta from post ascalon i will give him 200k. He believes it and as were going through the mission after the northern wall one, he finds black dye, so i tell him as soon as we get to stash in kryta i will give him 250k if he gives me black dye now.

So 8 hours goes by, i had nothing else too do. I just had a operation and cant leave the house even to go to work for a month. So 8 hours goes by and the rush is over. We get to my stash and i tell him i have some good news and some bad news. Bad news is i dont have the 200k, good news is i just saved a bunch of money on my caw insurance.

He gets mad and says hes gonna kill every one in his family and commit suicide so i leave any way.

Is this really my fault if they idiot didnt ask for money through each mission?

Deathlord

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

PVP Ranger: Does Stuff Fast

XXX

W/Mo

Yes it's your fault completely. If somebody trusts you, you shouldn't laugh at them for being idiots, or else you'll never make friends because trust is rather important... even in online gaming. 200k is absurd, he wasn't very smart, but it is in no way his fault.

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

Jokes on you, I save a lot of money by switching to Gecko.

He thought that when you first say you were going to pay him 200k, he took the deal and never borther to ask if you are really going to pay for it. I think its his fault for thinking that you will pay for the mission. But you scam him good.

Andy_M

Andy_M

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Worthing, UK

(Don't fear) The Beaver

jesus, how old are you guys ?

gwden

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

sounds made up.

be more funny!

Calnaion Blackhawk

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

England , Wiltshire

[mB] Mental Block

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy_M
jesus, how old are you guys ?
heh well said, i also believe that if he trusts in you, you shouldnt break that, its not nice to have a bad reputation in game or life

rii

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

UK

200k??? i need to start running :S.

to be frank, its peoples fault if they dont take the necessary precautions....
a guildmate is an iW-eer and sold his starter sword to some warrior for abour 10k or something stupid, when the warrior in question saw him take down about two mobs.
the conversation was apparantly this:

*mob is owned*
Wa: OMG HOW YOU DO TAHT?/??////
me: my sword is 1337
wa; I bUy ja?
me: 10k
wa: lemme see...
*shows sword of 2-3 damage, no modifiers*
wa: looks a bit rubbish
me:.................................its bugged ^-^
wa: ok..... *pays*

good god.... i mean how stupid can people get?

Sofonisba

Sofonisba

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Tucson, AZ

The Black Hand Gang [BHG] and The Black Helm Gang [BHeG]

You are posting this deliberate wickedness on the public boards? You have no shame?

stumpy

stumpy

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2005

Canucklehead BC, Canada

Advanced Necro Undead Society

actually it is ... you broke rule #1 of the game ... your guild is being reported ... but on the common sensee side of it ... he's as big an idiot as you are an ass.
sorry but you both have issues.

freshman384

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

N/W

wow i Agree you both are at fault


this is quite humorous, because the guy you scammed is over on the gamefaqs forums complaining as we speak.

So for the people who think he is making it up....nope


while i dont condone your actions, i do wonder what happened to your victims common sense

Volarian

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Texas

NOT-Nomads Of Turmoil

Quote:
good god.... i mean how stupid can people get?
That should read "good god.....i mean how stupid can I behave".

Whether the original poster is being truthful or not, both YOU and he have serious character flaws to go stealing/duping people...in real life it's sad but in a game???????
Both sides are at fault, the duped for truly being that gullable and most definitely the lying thief.

Ex: I leave my house unlocked and a thief comes in and helps himself. My fault for leaving the door unlocked but the thief was a piece of crap person long before the moment I forgot to lock my door. I'll blame myself for my action but my action didn't cause dikhead to be a thief...etc etc.

Sierra

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2005

TX, US

Raging Tempest

Quote:
Originally Posted by stumpy
actually it is ... you broke rule #1 of the game ... your guild is being reported ... but on the common sensee side of it ... he's as big an idiot as you are an ass.
sorry but you both have issues.
I concur.

toastgodsupreme

toastgodsupreme

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

United States

Me/

troll

Join date and lack of posts (and content of few posts made) prove this.

" True, soul reaping is such a craptacular signature skill. Please remove this from the game if the creators are reading lol."



Sigh...

Just so it doesn't get removed:

Town Dweller

Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: Zodiac braves
Profession: E/Me

That's his info as of this posting.

Xeno Demachilo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Benefactors Of Darkness

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by HellRaiser
Is it a scammers fault if they steal from the intelligent?
So i tell this guy if he rushes me to kryta from post ascalon i will give him 200k. He believes it and as were going through the mission after the northern wall one, he finds black dye, so i tell him as soon as we get to stash in kryta i will give him 250k if he gives me black dye now.

So 8 hours goes by, i had nothing else too do. I just had a operation and cant leave the house even to go to work for a month. So 8 hours goes by and the rush is over. We get to my stash and i tell him i have some good news and some bad news. Bad news is i dont have the 200k, good news is i just saved a bunch of money on my caw insurance.

He gets mad and says hes gonna kill every one in his family and commit suicide so i leave any way.

Is this really my fault if they idiot didnt ask for money through each mission?
I sincerely hope you get banned for life. That is the most rotten thing ive ever heard anyone do on an online game. You are a fat prick, and you deserve to die a most painful death.

tuPadre

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Volarian
Ex: I leave my house unlocked and a thief comes in and helps himself. My fault for leaving the door unlocked but the thief was a piece of crap person long before the moment I forgot to lock my door. I'll blame myself for my action but my action didn't cause dikhead to be a thief...etc etc.
Very good point

asdar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Please let this thread drop, I realize that I'm bumping it but it's at the top so it doesn't hurt anything.

He knew what people would post, he's looking for attention.

Golgotha

Golgotha

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Rt/

The future of our country. Wow.

Night Daftshadow

Night Daftshadow

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

In the forest

Hidden Shadows

R/Mo

This story sounds pretty much fake. I don't think there is someone that stupid to run someone from Ascalon City all the way to Kryta for 8hrs. I can't even play Guild Wars for more than 2hrs straight. After that, I get pretty bored and my ass and back aches from all that sitting.

twicky_kid

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

this game is made so everyone can get everything easy to get. if you have to scam people and take you 8 hours to get to kryta then you probly shouldn't be playing it.

only change that i would implement in this game is mods sitting in towns banning people for trying to sell althena's ashes. if reports like this keep showing don't think it won't happen. if it does i'm applying for the position. sure i'll sit in a town for 8-10 hours a day at home on my comp. how much is the pay per hour?

PieXags

PieXags

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Infinite Representation Of Pie And Its Many Brilliances

Wow.

Yeah, to the OP, you're a dick. Typically when I run someone to a town or something I ask for the money upfront, but a lot of times they don't believe me so they say no. So I'll run 'em anyways, and usually they pay up. It's a matter of trust, and you took advantage of the trust he put in you to pay him the amount of money you said you would. Also you stole a black dye from him.

I hope you get banned.

In fact I hope you get your car towed as well.

Mudroser

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Mo/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by HellRaiser
Is it a scammers fault if they steal from the intelligent?
So i tell this guy if he rushes me to kryta from post ascalon i will give him 200k. He believes it and as were going through the mission after the northern wall one, he finds black dye, so i tell him as soon as we get to stash in kryta i will give him 250k if he gives me black dye now.

So 8 hours goes by, i had nothing else too do. I just had a operation and cant leave the house even to go to work for a month. So 8 hours goes by and the rush is over. We get to my stash and i tell him i have some good news and some bad news. Bad news is i dont have the 200k, good news is i just saved a bunch of money on my caw insurance.

He gets mad and says hes gonna kill every one in his family and commit suicide so i leave any way.

Is this really my fault if they idiot didnt ask for money through each mission?

One guy in my city killed entire family today (5 youger brothers and sisters + mother and father) and then commited suicide by drinking 7/10 of liter of unleaded gas and setting himself to fire. I witnessed the whole scene (he did it in the park) and while he was choping them down he was screaming something like: YOU GIB 200 KA, YOU GIB BLEK DIEEEE! I tried to Healing Seed the children but it did not work. I even tried to Healing Breeze him while he was running around in flames but I only have 5 points in Healing Prayers so... I bet that flames had him degenerating for like -15 Health per second.

Perishiko ReLLiK

Perishiko ReLLiK

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2005

Divine Guardians of the Soul (Soul)

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by HellRaiser
Is it a scammers fault if they steal from the intelligent?
So i tell this guy if he rushes me to kryta from post ascalon i will give him 200k. He believes it and as were going through the mission after the northern wall one, he finds black dye, so i tell him as soon as we get to stash in kryta i will give him 250k if he gives me black dye now.

So 8 hours goes by, i had nothing else too do. I just had a operation and cant leave the house even to go to work for a month. So 8 hours goes by and the rush is over. We get to my stash and i tell him i have some good news and some bad news. Bad news is i dont have the 200k, good news is i just saved a bunch of money on my caw insurance.

He gets mad and says hes gonna kill every one in his family and commit suicide so i leave any way.

Is this really my fault if they idiot didnt ask for money through each mission?
Ok, so some people are against this, and others are Strongly against this...

But i have got to say, "Holy crap, that's hillarious!"

Even if you didnt really do that, it gave me quite a laugh...

Side note:: Scamming is against the terms of agreement, and i do not endorse such actions. As such, i am not liable for any acts commited as such.

freshman384

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

N/W

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gen...topic=21893850


read this earlier this morning

sadly, i doubt hes faking

Eet GnomeSmasher

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

In my head

Hmmm seems like someone got grounded and got bored and decided to post an assinine thread. I liked my hobbies as a kid better than yours.

Aniewiel

Aniewiel

Smite Mistress

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Land of AZ, USA

Rt/E

Made up or not, it's a terrible story. Shame on you and shame on your parents for doing such a lousy job raising you.

I hope you're banned for life, your car is towed and your girlfriend sees you for the rotten individual you are and shames you in public.

Ryoushi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Free People of Earth

R/Me

Dude, that was a terrible thing to do. I'm with the other guy, you deserved to get banned for life. Totally, totally mean.

The Destroyer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

OMG as disgusting as this rip off was I am still trying to stop laughing!

Alderman Sweet

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/E

What would be funny is if the gamefaqs victim and this guy are the same person.

Bob173115

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xeno Demachilo
I sincerely hope you get banned for life. That is the most rotten thing ive ever heard anyone do on an online game. You are a fat prick, and you deserve to die a most painful death.
Wow, someone takes the internet too seriously.

It's a game. Nobody deserves death for ripping another person off. Get over it already, it happens left and right. Maybe a warning or a ban or something would be quite suitable, but seriously... death? How ignorant can you get?

And it's not just DEATH... it's the most painful death.

Get a life.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aniewiel
Made up or not, it's a terrible story. Shame on you and shame on your parents for doing such a lousy job raising you.

I hope you're banned for life, your car is towed and your girlfriend sees you for the rotten individual you are and shames you in public.
Shame on you for caring so much about a computer application.

Porkchop Sandwhiches

Porkchop Sandwhiches

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fishing Village in Wizard's Folly

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FluidFox

FluidFox

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2005

In a box with a Keyboard. (cst)

This thread is a blatant cry for attention. For one thing, I doubt anyone was stupid enough to do what he describes. It's a made up story intended primarily to get a lot of negative attention. (unless he is idiotic enough to think people would give him a pat on the back for being an ass)

Either way, the only reason I'm posting this is because the thread is already bumped to the top of the forum. Let it die folks and don't feed the troll. From his behavior, you can assume one of three things is true.

1) he gets picked on a lot at school and is using stuff like this as an outlet. (least likely)

2) He picks on people a lot at school. (more likely)

3) Gets completely ignored by most and disliked by some, and the girl he has a crush on doesn't even know he exists so he does stuff like this just for that warm fuzzy feeling of knowing that people are aware he exists. (most likely of all)

Aniewiel

Aniewiel

Smite Mistress

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Land of AZ, USA

Rt/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob173115
Shame on you for caring so much about a computer application.
Actually, I don't care about the game. I care about the personna behind the game. If this person is such a jerk in a -game- for Pete's Sake, he's got to be the playground bully IRL and wouldn't hesitate to perpetrate other nasty scams on unsuspecting individuals.

That said, don't lecture me, pal.

Bob173115

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/W

I must admit, pal, that I can be a complete jackass online. But my "online" and my "real life" personnas are quite diverse. People tend to be more vicious online because they can hide behind a computer screen. I'm completely different in real life, and I'm sure most of you are, also.

You can also see different personnas generate within the real world and online too, depending on your surrounding environment of peers.

That said, think over your last post.

Eet GnomeSmasher

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

In my head

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob173115
Wow, someone takes the internet too seriously.

It's a game. Nobody deserves death for ripping another person off. Get over it already, it happens left and right. Maybe a warning or a ban or something would be quite suitable, but seriously... death? How ignorant can you get?

And it's not just DEATH... it's the most painful death.

Get a life.



Shame on you for caring so much about a computer application.
This post made me laugh. Seems like you are the one taking the internet too seriously. I highly doubt that he really wanted the guy put to death....

As for the "caring so much about a computer application", you've completely missed the point and don't have a clue what's being said again. It's not about the computer application, it was about the act itself and the person.

Sovetskeey

Sovetskeey

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Edmonton, AB

Gotta Be Four Twenty Somewhere

Haha some of you guys are so funny. I just laughed when I read his post. The Geiko line was priceless

I think it's pretty sad that you guys take something that happened IN A GAME so seriously. Not to mention that it had absolutely NOTHING to do with you. Sure it was mean but under normal and intelligent circumstances, he shouldn't have even got a reply for the rush. Just goes to show what dangling a few bucks in front of somebody can do.
I suppose you guys report every guy who scams somebody at Beacon's Perch?

Aniewiel

Aniewiel

Smite Mistress

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Land of AZ, USA

Rt/E

LOL! Uncle! I'm not here to battle you, Bob. Maybe it's just my 'old fashioned values' surfacing again. I try to behave the same way online that I do in real life. I try to treat people fairly, that's all. In fact, I'd venture to say that I treat strangers -better- online than I do IRL for the same thing you said: I can hide behind a computer screen and be relatively anonymous.

Now...peace, bro.

Oh...and I'm a girl..not that it probably matters but I'm so rarely called 'pal'.

Bob173115

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/W

No, Eet, you have no idea what's going on. The type of personality shown to a certain individual can vary greatly. I've scammed people before, not necessarily on guild wars, but on other games. But, it doesn't reflect my real life personality. Read my previous post, k? Thx.

Anie:

Sorry for addressing you as pal. Maybe Ms. Pal would be better? :P

Anyway... The way you react online is just your online personna. The majority of my friends online tend to act differently than in real life, that's where I conjured my theory, from personal experience. Maybe your online personna just matches your real life one? :P

And, my online personna is more harsh because I don't see the other people as "real". It's just a thing with me. They're not real people until I see them, physically meet them... You know? It's kinda like how some people say God doesn't exist, because there's no proof of him. Same sort of concept here.

Garrett

Garrett

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

Triple X {XXX}

Mo/

I would like to point out that the idiot in question is not fully responsible for his idiocy, the system that created him is. The same applies to the scammer. Calling the idiot stupid doesn't make him any smarter.

Eet GnomeSmasher

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

In my head

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sovetskeey
Haha some of you guys are so funny. I just laughed when I read his post. The Geiko line was priceless

I think it's pretty sad that you guys take something that happened IN A GAME so seriously. Not to mention that it had absolutely NOTHING to do with you. Sure it was mean but under normal and intelligent circumstances, he shouldn't have even got a reply for the rush. Just goes to show what dangling a few bucks in front of somebody can do.
I suppose you guys report every guy who scams somebody at Beacon's Perch?

And I love these "I'm so much better than everyone because I don't care what happens in a game" posts. Oh and what anyone has to say about anything doesn't have NOTHING to do with you either, yet you're here posting.

Meh, Bob. Now you're just trying to get a rise out of me since you're not even addressing what I posted and talking about something completely different.

And if you get your jollies scamming people and trying to get a reaction on the forums...well have fun with that. Maybe your "real life" persona will find some satisfaction someday.

Luggage

Luggage

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

sweden

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob173115
And, my online personna is more harsh because I don't see the other people as "real". It's just a thing with me. They're not real people until I see them, physically meet them... You know? It's kinda like how some people say God doesn't exist, because there's no proof of him. Same sort of concept here.
Perhaps you should go outside more and meet real people - get your humanity reset to "normal".