Rangers outdamaging warriors?

its easy for warriors to kill a monk solo... theres pretty much two ways to do it, spike or fear me energy drain. For spike, you either knock-lock the monk with hammer, or with axe you hit an off-target squishy then switch to monk after the heals/enchants go up on the target. Fear Me is for the long run when you consider 5 monk energy to be 100+ healing... then a 4 adren move that drains 4 energy from that monk is very good. 1v1 is an issue since the monk can just stack armor of earth/shielding hands/guardian/ward vs meelee/kinetic armor/shield of regeneration/ward vs meelee, then laugh at warriors. But since its 4 v 4 at the least and you can target switch, it is very easy to just pound on an off target... if the monk puts things like shielding hands or healing seed on the squishy you are pounding, you just switch over to the monk and spike him. If they don't, axe warrior damage against a squishy is about equal to a heal every two or three seconds as a general rule.

Distracting heals is OK, but the same thing effect can be done with Fear Me. A lot more of it is distracting enchantments like healing seed or prot spirit for a spike on the monks.

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a bit late on that post, but the basic point is that warrior damage outraces monk healing in a no enchantment, no energy managment situation. Energy denial (monks with energy drain, fear me) speeds up the point where the monks cast heals as soon as they have 5 energy, and good teams bring prodigious amounts of enchantment removal (in team 4 v 4, think 4 people with /mes and drain enchantment).

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reversal of fortune > axe or hammer spikes... and enchantment stacking monks can't really be killed by a single warrior (especially axe), but realistically you just pound on a squishier target after the monk casts their enchantments so that the seed/shielding hands/shield of regeneration is mostly wasted.

10 strength = 10% armor penetration

lots of noob warriors have 0 strength, which is probably why the ranger is toying with the warrior

strength only effects attack skills, not the regular attacks... 10 strength adds 3-6 damage on an attack skill, which is not all that much. If it weren't for a warrior not being able to use more than 16 weaponry and 10 in a secondary skill line, a lot more wars would have low strength.

Then again, there are the warrior builds that rely upon a strength-linked attribute, like the battle rage enthusiasts, where I can see 16 weapon/15 strength working for them...

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idk im just sayin as a warrior you never really kill a good prot monk ^^

i mean like what can you do to prot spirit + RoF spam? i mean duh a warrior can outlast one, but thats not what i meant. we all know a warrior doesnt stay attacking a monk forever...

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weeeeee it's a show off thread!! how bout this video, it's a ranger killing everything in 4 shots

http://files.filefront.com/myfirstmo.../fileinfo.html

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Depends on the build and what your up against. A good axe warrior can spike casters for around 300 damage in 2 seconds.

If you want the ability to spike as a ranger I fail to see how you cannot include Quickshot, as using any other skills, or buffing a single attack will require a silly amount of time. Simply having kindle on and JI on you, you can deal massive amounts of damage with a DS/QS/PS/QS chain. You can call it one-dimensional, but thats what spike damage is, one dimensional.

Axe warriors can outdamage Rangers by far, simply because of the eviserate/executioners combo.

I've seen a warrior take down my Mesmer in like 3 seconds in Random where I didn't have a heal/prot monk. For a ranger, it usually takes like 20 seconds.

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