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freejet

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02 Jul 2005 at 11:56 - 1

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What is the overclocking?

How can i do it to a graphic card(sparkle GeForce 6800GT PCI-E)?????

Is it legal by nvidia or the manufactor?

please answer my questions.....

cannonfodder

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Mo/Me

02 Jul 2005 at 12:12 - 2

Why do you want to overclock?, your card is very fast as it is.....

Okay, here goes.....

To overclock use a utility like coolbits, goole for it, move the core frequency up by a few mhz at a time and benchmark it for stability, once you hit the maximum it'll take go and do the same with the memory....

My advice, leave it alone, you could fry your card. invalidate your warranty and cost you alot of money...Plus PCI-Express cards dont like to be overclocked much, though it does depend on make etc

Dirkiess

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E/Mo

02 Jul 2005 at 12:33 - 3

If you don't know what it is or how to do it, don't blame Guild Wars Guru or any information given here if you blow up your card.

Anything you do to your hardware is down to you.

No one here on this Forum can be held responsible for any damage you do to your machine.

Loviatar

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02 Jul 2005 at 13:21 - 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by freejet

What is the overclocking?

How can i do it to a graphic card(sparkle GeForce 6800GT PCI-E)?????

Is it legal by nvidia or the manufactor?

please answer my questions.....

you have one of the fastest cards available

it FAR exceeds anything that GW will use

overclocking it will make NO DIFFERENCE in what you see on the screen

overclocking will VOID THE WARRANTY (in most cases) and gain you NOTHING

Warskull

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02 Jul 2005 at 13:25 - 5

Overclocking is a bit silly these days. Most CPUs have plenty of excess power and that particular GPU is a beast. You have no need for overclocking and often times the loss in stability isn't worth it.

freejet

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02 Jul 2005 at 13:34 - 6

well i see now, but i just wanted to know bacause i've heard that if i overclock the card it will be as an 6800 ultra (not that it is a big different but anyway) thx.

Oh i am thinking on going SLI with another sparkle 6800GT, how is that sound to you guys........???

cannonfodder

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02 Jul 2005 at 13:59 - 7

Sli is only good if you play at a higher resolution say 1600x1200 with AA and AF all turned up. And to be honest at that resolution it would be hard to see what was going on...

So if you play at any less resolution than 1600x1200 save your money, spend it on fast women and Dwarven ale......

EDIT - there isn't much difference between the GT and the ultra anyway, you have a beast of a card, be happy and enjoy

krazyxazn

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02 Jul 2005 at 15:15 - 8

SLI-ing with 2x 6800gts is pretty much a waste of money unless your a rich lonely person

. Would be a waste cause just one 6800gt is alrdy maxed on game settings. Adding another wont do much since most games dont req that much. Even one 6800 on BF2 will work at max without any problems.

EternalTempest

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02 Jul 2005 at 15:17 - 9

You want to install coolbits - http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=815
This will unlock a lot of options that were not there before (overclocking is just one of them).

Personally I would not OC your 6800. How much you can overclock depends on your make of card. OC causes you to increase the video card to heat up more, if you OC too much you can damage your card. Also if you up it to high you will get graphic glitches during rendering.

Adding 2nd card for sli is far better & safe option the crank up GW to the max on graphics but since you have a 6800 (as stated early) your probable running the game about max anyway.

Know when UT 2007 comes out and other future games you may want to consider it but a "mid range" card that doesn't cost too much will proable run the game better then your "old" 6800 OC'd.

cannonfodder

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02 Jul 2005 at 15:20 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by krazyxazn

Even one 6800 on BF2 will work at max without any problems.

Thats not entirely true, my 6800gt will only display at medium settings and 4x [email protected], as will my new x800xl

freejet

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03 Jul 2005 at 09:15 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by EternalTempest

You want to install coolbits - http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=815
This will unlock a lot of options that were not there before (overclocking is just one of them).

Personally I would not OC your 6800. How much you can overclock depends on your make of card. OC causes you to increase the video card to heat up more, if you OC too much you can damage your card. Also if you up it to high you will get graphic glitches during rendering.

Adding 2nd card for sli is far better & safe option the crank up GW to the max on graphics but since you have a 6800 (as stated early) your probable running the game about max anyway.

Know when UT 2007 comes out and other future games you may want to consider it but a "mid range" card that doesn't cost too much will proable run the game better then your "old" 6800 OC'd.

So if i whant to play UT 2007 i have to go SLI, would i?
and with two 6800GT can i play the next generations game with full graphics?

what is the BF2(i know it's a game but wich)?
and what is the AA an AF things that cannonfodder mentioned?

cannonfodder

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03 Jul 2005 at 09:22 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by freejet

So if i whant to play UT 2007 i have to go SLI, would i?
and with two 6800GT can i play the next generations game with full graphics?

Nah, a high end single card will be good enough, you only need sli if you intend to play at resolutions of 1600x1200 and above....

freejet

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03 Jul 2005 at 12:00 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by cannonfodder

Sli is only good if you play at a higher resolution say 1600x1200 with AA and AF all turned up. And to be honest at that resolution it would be hard to see what was going on...

So if you play at any less resolution than 1600x1200 save your money, spend it on fast women and Dwarven ale......

EDIT - there isn't much difference between the GT and the ultra anyway, you have a beast of a card, be happy and enjoy

What is the AA an AF things that you(cannonfodder) mentioned?

cannonfodder

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03 Jul 2005 at 13:58 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by freejet

What is the AA an AF things that you(cannonfodder) mentioned?

AA - Anti Aliasing(sp?)

AF - Anistrophic Filtering

It sharpens up the picture, reducing jagged edges and generally smoothing out the look of the game, the higher the AA and AF the lower your Frame rates could be, with your card 6800gt you can turn these up a bit and experiment

glockjs

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07 Jul 2005 at 21:48 - 15

dont OC anything unless you're prepared to break it

OC=heat=need cooling

MadeInChina

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08 Jul 2005 at 03:08 - 16

You can Overclock it to the optimum speed (meaning a speed that will still work and not fry), but nevertheless, your computer's age will be dramatically decreased after the overclock. Say your computer should last 5 years without any major problems. Keeping your vid card overclocked could decrease it to 3 or 2 years.

And to describe overclocking in my own words:
Say your computer is a car. If you want to overlock the computer, it is the same as turbo-charging your car. It will improve your car's performance..but there's a great risk that it will go into failure.

And make sure you have the proper cooling if you do decide to overclock!

Algren Cole

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08 Jul 2005 at 14:16 - 17

Don't overclock that card. Sparkle cards are NOT OCers cards....without replacing the GPU heatsink you'll fry the card quickly.

glockjs

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09 Jul 2005 at 00:08 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadeInChina

You can Overclock it to the optimum speed (meaning a speed that will still work and not fry), but nevertheless, your computer's age will be dramatically decreased after the overclock. Say your computer should last 5 years without any major problems. Keeping your vid card overclocked could decrease it to 3 or 2 years.

eh thats a little dramatic...yes it decreases the age. most components are designed to last well over 10 years at least. so taking off a few years really isnt all that bad because if you plan to use the same computer for over 10 years...well, gl to you haha

MadeInChina

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09 Jul 2005 at 05:39 - 19

Quote:

Originally Posted by glockjs

eh thats a little dramatic...yes it decreases the age. most components are designed to last well over 10 years at least. so taking off a few years really isnt all that bad because if you plan to use the same computer for over 10 years...well, gl to you haha

It's not dramatic at all. A computer with an age of 5 years will decrease by 2 to 3 years. And for computers lasting over 10 years..that's if the user can keep it protected from viruses/spyware and the average person would not be able to do that so well.

And the average age of computers depends also on the manufacturer because many manufacturers develop poorly-constructed computers.

Miss Innocent

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Mo/R

10 Jul 2005 at 03:04 - 20

My advice is that if you don't know alot about computers, you shouldn't over clock things. This is because of what over-clocking does: it takes the protection off the equipment so that it can run faster, but it will also push itself until it breaks. Overclocking is great if you are able to watch your computer and be sure it doesn't break, but if you don't know what you're doing then you can fry your hardware.

glockjs

Frost Gate Guardian

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14 Jul 2005 at 00:39 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadeInChina

It's not dramatic at all. A computer with an age of 5 years will decrease by 2 to 3 years. And for computers lasting over 10 years..that's if the user can keep it protected from viruses/spyware and the average person would not be able to do that so well.

And the average age of computers depends also on the manufacturer because many manufacturers develop poorly-constructed computers.

still dramatic. and dont buy a dell

lord_shar

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14 Jul 2005 at 02:59 - 22

OC'ing is fine so long as you have adequate extra-cooling and don't go nuts with the settings. Just be ready to kiss the hardware warranty goodbye if you do so.

Algren Cole

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14 Jul 2005 at 03:32 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by lord_shar

OC'ing is fine so long as you have adequate extra-cooling and don't go nuts with the settings. Just be ready to kiss the hardware warranty goodbye if you do so.

don't tell people OC'ing is fine...because it's not. It's EXTREMELY strenuous on your hardware. It can be done effectively and you can push some extra power out of your system...but it's by no means "fine"..

Just make sure you are buying OCers hardware. i.e. DFI Motherboard(BEST) Asus Motherboards(pretty good) or MSI MOtherboards(OK)....video cards BFG is where you want to go...YES they come pre-clocked....but they OC even more....Gainward cards are good OCers...Make sure you are getting XMS RAM or the equivelant...Corsair...Crucial...Samsung. NOT KINGSTON. Kingston RAM does NOT OC well....

Just read into what you are doing...and don't try to get too much...in the long run it'll cost you more to replace the system. A couple years back I had an AMD 1600+ AGOIA(OCers Core) running at 2.4ghz..I think they run at like 1.2 or 1.3 stock FSB....the chip was hauling ass....but it only lasted 6 months...So be careful with what you are doing and read as much as you can.

and I must stress again...incase you missed it. Don't OC that sparkle card....sparkle cards don't like extra heat at all.

lord_shar

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14 Jul 2005 at 04:45 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Algren Cole

don't tell people OC'ing is fine...because it's not. It's EXTREMELY strenuous on your hardware. It can be done effectively and you can push some extra power out of your system...but it's by no means "fine"..

Please re-read my original post, especially the part about "adequate extra-cooling and don't go nuts with the settings." My P4-2.5 OC'd to 2.75 has been running rock solid for over 3 years. However, it uses an Asus MB and a heat-piped CoolerMaster copper sink.

CPU's/GPU's/memory don't have any moving internal parts to wear out, so the only thing that can damage them is heat. The problem with overclocking is that it messes up component stability unless you increase voltage, which in turn increases heat. Safe overclocks can be done provided that you don't go beyond 10%-15% recommended factory specs. BFG Tech overclocks their Nvidia video cards out of the factory and still covers them with a lifetime warranty.

My point is that if someone chooses to overclock, they had better do their homework first. Overclocking doesn't have to put a strain on PC components if done in moderation.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Algren Cole

Just make sure you are buying OCers hardware. i.e. DFI Motherboard(BEST) Asus Motherboards(pretty good) or MSI MOtherboards(OK)....video cards BFG is where you want to go...YES they come pre-clocked....but they OC even more....Gainward cards are good OCers...Make sure you are getting XMS RAM or the equivelant...Corsair...Crucial...Samsung. NOT KINGSTON. Kingston RAM does NOT OC well....

Just read into what you are doing...and don't try to get too much...in the long run it'll cost you more to replace the system. A couple years back I had an AMD 1600+ AGOIA(OCers Core) running at 2.4ghz..I think they run at like 1.2 or 1.3 stock FSB....the chip was hauling ass....but it only lasted 6 months...So be careful with what you are doing and read as much as you can.

and I must stress again...incase you missed it. Don't OC that sparkle card....sparkle cards don't like extra heat at all.

I agree with the rest of your post.

Quality hardware can OC safely, so choose your components well.

glockjs

Frost Gate Guardian

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14 Jul 2005 at 22:46 - 25

asus in my experience do not like to OC very well :/ abit or dfi yes thank you

of course components are going to fry if you crank them all the way up. but like lord pointed out there's nothing wrong with a moderate overclock. i think a big prob with half the people that OC have no clue what the word stability means :/