Ok, example one.
Im at augery rock, havent been out this way in days.
head out solo and the first thing I come accross is 2 hydras
Kill the first one, get a nice drop, kill the next one, no drop at all!
head over to another group (3) and start killing again. first one drops a white, next one drops nothing, last one drops nothing.
decide that this is rediculous, so I head off to bloodstone fenn.
head out, first thing I run into is 2 trolls.
now its been WELL over a week since I've been out here.
kill the first one, 1 white drop, kill the second NO DROP!!
I mean, am I halucinating, or didnt the patch that fixed this say that only extreme farming methods would see monsters run low on loot?
THIS is extreme?? its rediculous is what it is!
anyone else find this when going solo?
what is the deal with drops!?
Paladin_Adoni
Caco-Cola
oh come on you're mad cause you're not getting a drop off of every monster?
Next thing we know 'what is the dela with teh drops!? I killed one hydra and it gave me a gold but the next one only gave me a purple, wtf?'
Next thing we know 'what is the dela with teh drops!? I killed one hydra and it gave me a gold but the next one only gave me a purple, wtf?'
Prince Daniel
well i find that Baltazhar has shined upon me if i ever get a purple or gold item/rune. Im on almost every day and VERY rarely get anything of value. Infact ive never had anything worth over 10k. Im level 20 and am at ring of fire.
Although agree with guy above, you cant really complain about that. Maybe if you had killed a hundred alone.
Although agree with guy above, you cant really complain about that. Maybe if you had killed a hundred alone.
Aniewiel
Every monster isn't supposed to make a drop, are they? I mean, that's not terribly reasonable. 
Paladin_Adoni
firstly, yes, all monsters drop something : gold, weapons, focus items, common materials, rare materials, items for collectors.
this is from the update
"...substantially improved the loot system so that only the most extreme forms of farming will cause monsters to start to run low on loot.
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and to clarify for those who cant read properly, I am talking about getting absolutely nothing out of a creature. I dont mean nothing good. NOTHING AT ALL.
this is from the update
"...substantially improved the loot system so that only the most extreme forms of farming will cause monsters to start to run low on loot.
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and to clarify for those who cant read properly, I am talking about getting absolutely nothing out of a creature. I dont mean nothing good. NOTHING AT ALL.
Eomer Brightblade
BTW, while taking about drops, purple is suppose to be rare drop isnt?
Paladin_Adoni
White, blue - common
purple - uncommon
gold - rare
purple - uncommon
gold - rare
Eomer Brightblade
I collected a drops wich is something +6 energy, but purple. No other bonuses. What's uncommon about this item?
arnansnow
Purple's tend to have more/better stuff on them then blues, but there is a chance to get purples with nothing on them, you can also get pure golds, and pure blues.
Paladin_Adoni
ok, this is how it works :
the level of a creature is the determaning facter as to the weapons/focus items attributes, a common item will have attributes from either 1 level less, its own level or one level more. an uncommon item will have attributes from its level or up to 3 levels higher. a rare item has attributes for a level up to 5 higher than the monsters.
the level of a creature is the determaning facter as to the weapons/focus items attributes, a common item will have attributes from either 1 level less, its own level or one level more. an uncommon item will have attributes from its level or up to 3 levels higher. a rare item has attributes for a level up to 5 higher than the monsters.
Brizi
But still he is right about the patch. It said that only extreame issues of farming will cause monsters to stop dropping loot and I dont think that many people are doing extream farming in Bloodstone Fen. When I read the update, I figured that when you farmed someplace to much that was when the drops stopped, not when other people were farming. If that is the case then everyone is getting screwed and it is no fun to go solo anymore unless you find a spot that no one really goes to. And then you are gambling time because there is no way of knowing if that place has been farmed to death or not. Personally i dont farm a lot. But for those who like to go solo and get all the loot, this is not a very good update.
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Sandman Uk
I have noticed it around Drokners as well.
I soloed out there and killed a least 9 aventia in a group and wasnt even getting a little amount of gold drop. Farming isnt worth the time put into it.
Need UW/FIS Smites now for the good stuff nobody want's Max damage swords. The only thing thats sells and is worth anything is Eternals and Chaos Weapons and also the Obsidian and Ectoplasm. Everything else is Crap even Superior runes are not woth the parchment they are written on and should be made salvegable.
I soloed out there and killed a least 9 aventia in a group and wasnt even getting a little amount of gold drop. Farming isnt worth the time put into it.
Need UW/FIS Smites now for the good stuff nobody want's Max damage swords. The only thing thats sells and is worth anything is Eternals and Chaos Weapons and also the Obsidian and Ectoplasm. Everything else is Crap even Superior runes are not woth the parchment they are written on and should be made salvegable.
primal98
Actually my lil bro started a new pre-searing char yesterday, and the drops were nuts :P We got 9 blue items in a row :O
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Dumachum
Smite drops are crap now too. Someone in your party MIGHT be lucky to get a Storm/Eternal bow every 4 runs or so.
There is almost nothing left to play this game for except maybe the 2 new RP zones coming up in a few weeks. And then they'll most likely be nothing but "cosmetic" just like everything else in this game since they'll suffer from the same craptacular drop rate .
There is almost nothing left to play this game for except maybe the 2 new RP zones coming up in a few weeks. And then they'll most likely be nothing but "cosmetic" just like everything else in this game since they'll suffer from the same craptacular drop rate .
Anarkii
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Smite drops are crap now too. Someone in your party MIGHT be lucky to get a Storm/Eternal bow every 4 runs or so.
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arnansnow
Not being able to farm is a pretty poor excuse to leave PvE, IMO.
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Not being able to farm is a pretty poor excuse to leave PvE, IMO.
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When you play day in and day out and get the same subpar weapons over and over.. hey, you get sick and tired and ****ed
Sereng Amaranth
I got a max dmg gold horn bow and a scroll of insight in one run yesterday. And I wasn't even farming. 
Aniewiel
The drops are there, they're just harder to get. As someone said in another post (Don't Take It Out on Honest Players), maybe less frequent uber-drops will make them more appreciated. IMHO the drops have been too good and too easy to get. This way a rare truly -is- a rare and not just another-neato-thing-I-found-and-will-sell-for-an-outrageous-price.
The prices for uber rares and uniques will go through the roof with their increasing scarcity. That should please those who want all the gold in the world. I, for one anyhow, would be MUCH more willing to pay through the nose for something that I knew for a fact was ULTRA rare.
The prices for uber rares and uniques will go through the roof with their increasing scarcity. That should please those who want all the gold in the world.
I, for one anyhow, would be MUCH more willing to pay through the nose for something that I knew for a fact was ULTRA rare.
Sandman Uk
I think the word farming can be misenterpreted as to what farming stands for. I have completed all the PVE side of the game. All thats left for me to do without starting over again with a new char is to go hunting a super rare drop. Hoping that I will get the ultimate drop. Is this classed as farming. To me Farming is hitting the same spot 100's of times to collect gold and drops.
If drops have been reduced to eliminate farming then I am suffering because of it. I dont even go out trying to find these drops anymore and to be honest have gone from playing the game 100 hours a week to about 10 hours a week and thats dropping now. The game has no longevity in its end game for PVE players.
If the drops were there and it was worth hunting drops I would have set myself a target of 2Million Plat to go for but its not worth putting in the other 90 hours a week to get nothing.
I have purchased Battlefield 2 now and unfourtunatly have now drifted away from Guild Wars
and thats the sad part because of the changes that have been made they have killed off the PVE side of Guild War's and forced me away, and untill the Free Content comes out and the purchasable update next year I have to play else where for my buzz now.
If the new free area turns out as easy as all the other areas in the game (Excluding Underworld/ Fiss) then I dont think I will be purchasing the update for PVE play
If drops have been reduced to eliminate farming then I am suffering because of it. I dont even go out trying to find these drops anymore and to be honest have gone from playing the game 100 hours a week to about 10 hours a week and thats dropping now. The game has no longevity in its end game for PVE players.
If the drops were there and it was worth hunting drops I would have set myself a target of 2Million Plat to go for but its not worth putting in the other 90 hours a week to get nothing.
I have purchased Battlefield 2 now and unfourtunatly have now drifted away from Guild Wars
and thats the sad part because of the changes that have been made they have killed off the PVE side of Guild War's and forced me away, and untill the Free Content comes out and the purchasable update next year I have to play else where for my buzz now. If the new free area turns out as easy as all the other areas in the game (Excluding Underworld/ Fiss) then I dont think I will be purchasing the update for PVE play
Mariena Feladon
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I thought a max dmg Storm Bow is going out for outrageous prices these days, and it will only become worse.
Tactical-Dillusions
Yesterday i found a max damage firey dragon sword with lots of very nice stats. Definitely the best sword i have ever found.
In the same area i also found several gold and purple max shields, which was nice.
They don't always drop, but be patient, play the game for enjoyment and sooner or later you will get something nice.
As for the drop...no drop...drop...no drop...
It happens to me everytime i hunt. Usually the first two mobs i kill drop nothing. Occasionally after that...at most 1 in 10 will drop nothing.
EDIT - As for selling my items i get...nope. I don't sell them. If i need them i will use them, if i don't need them, i give them away for free.
Just like the shadow shield i gave away yesterday and the two purple max shields i gave to the younger players who i was helping on altheas ashes.
I even gave an eternal shield to a guy in riverside a few days back...its just a piece of graphics on your screen at the end of the day
In the same area i also found several gold and purple max shields, which was nice.
They don't always drop, but be patient, play the game for enjoyment and sooner or later you will get something nice.
As for the drop...no drop...drop...no drop...
It happens to me everytime i hunt. Usually the first two mobs i kill drop nothing. Occasionally after that...at most 1 in 10 will drop nothing.
EDIT - As for selling my items i get...nope. I don't sell them. If i need them i will use them, if i don't need them, i give them away for free.
Just like the shadow shield i gave away yesterday and the two purple max shields i gave to the younger players who i was helping on altheas ashes.
I even gave an eternal shield to a guy in riverside a few days back...its just a piece of graphics on your screen at the end of the day
Bushmins
Geez, impatent people should go play FPS.
Im sure this game wasnt designed to be a farming fest.
I think the economy was mucked up in the early stages of the game, money and xp comes far to easy.
If you get everything within the first few weeks of playing...wheres the fun in that?
Im sure this game wasnt designed to be a farming fest.
I think the economy was mucked up in the early stages of the game, money and xp comes far to easy.
If you get everything within the first few weeks of playing...wheres the fun in that?
Aniewiel
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Geez, impatent people should go play FPS.
Im sure this game wasnt designed to be a farming fest. I think the economy was mucked up in the early stages of the game, money and xp comes far to easy. If you get everything within the first few weeks of playing...wheres the fun in that? |
1) Chase the "farmers" out of the game---they only play for the items they can find and, after awhile really, what's the point? Frankly I find the challenge of the game is playing -without- uberitems. While they're nice to have, it's much more challenging to play using less-than-perfect equipment and testing your skill.
2) Leave better things for those of us who just play and get a huge charge out of finding something neat -because- we were playing for fun and not because we were actively -looking- for something to drop.
I'm not better than anyone because I fall into the #2 category. I just never really pay that much attention to drops. I can't tell you how many times I've picked up my stuff on a mission without even looking at it and, on arrival at the end of the mission, have looked at it finally and been stunned by yellows and/or purples scattered amongst the other stuff.
The Destroyer
One quick thing here. I have also noticed this same trend and think I may have found a way to get around it. My lvl 20 I use to explore and find goodies was having the same problem. Well one day it all changed! I have 3 unfinished quests in my quest log now and as long as I have had them in there I get drops from every mob I kill solo or otherwise. I think maybe this distinguishes my account from say a botters account becuase of the active quest. A bot has no quests so their account will appear differently in an instanced area than mine. I have tested this with my other 2 lvl 20's and it seems to hold true. That way I can explore the map and still get some nice shiny stuff to help my lower level guildies. I invite others to test this theory.
Calnaion Blackhawk
also ive noticed, more and more gold drops are giving majors runes, i always got a superior rune from gold armours, now i get majors, crap ones at that
Pandora's box
An economy based on scarcity will rise the prices skyhigh. The only ones who have advantage of that are the Ebay sellers. When players have the feeling they can find everything they need in the game there wont be anyone foolish enough to buy on ebay. Also low prices would stop farming to sell on ebay. Its sad that making real money has such an impact on a game, but the solution is obvious: Give players the feeling that they really get better, even if they play for only 1 hour in the weekends. Hence, more and better droppings (and especially from bosses I would say).
Aniewiel
Maybe something AN could do would be to make the upgrades more available. Rather than having a fully operational item drop, make the upgrades more available so that players can custom create their own uberitems based on what's important to them. This might also take some of the starch out of the Ebayer's undies as well.
Teufel Eldritch
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Maybe something AN could do would be to make the upgrades more available. Rather than having a fully operational item drop, make the upgrades more available so that players can custom create their own uberitems based on what's important to them. This might also take some of the starch out of the Ebayer's undies as well.
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Slightly OT... but I would like to see a place where someone can purchase/sell said items in game. Similar to the Rune Trader & Dye Trader.
Aniewiel
What would be nice is that, at least for a specified amount of time (say 5-10 minutes), the things OTHERS are selling to the merchants are available for purchase by other players.
But I think that more frequent upgrade items would go a long way to alleviate the problem and would give players a chance to REALLY customize their stuff.
But I think that more frequent upgrade items would go a long way to alleviate the problem and would give players a chance to REALLY customize their stuff.
womble
I spent an hour the other night depopulating Wizard's Folly of bears twice (once on the way to showing someone Foible's Fair and once on the way out) and not a single pelt dropped. We weren't killing anything else...
Hell Knight
I hate bear pelts. When I needed I found none, when I got one every bear dropped 1
Lasher Dragon
IME somehow all drops across the board have been totally screwed. I go out solo anywhere, kill 10 of anything, and 9 of them drop nothing.
Magick Catastroph
If rare drops sropped alot like you want.. they wouldnt be rare... then everyone would have them.. and you couldnt sell them at all.
I think its just frustration, even if you dont realize it. I was feeling the same way until i realized that the rare weapons that sell for alot wouldnt be worth it if they were things that dropped all the time.
I made about 30k over the weekend just from running to chests and selling the items i found to the merchant. I did run across some decent weapons which i put in storage, which i could probably get around 1k each for them.
The money is out there, you just have to be willing to be patient enough to get it.
But even so, I still thought monsters were supposed to always drop something, I went to kill some griffons and out of 4 only 1 droped something. It did seem odd.
I think its just frustration, even if you dont realize it. I was feeling the same way until i realized that the rare weapons that sell for alot wouldnt be worth it if they were things that dropped all the time.
I made about 30k over the weekend just from running to chests and selling the items i found to the merchant. I did run across some decent weapons which i put in storage, which i could probably get around 1k each for them.
The money is out there, you just have to be willing to be patient enough to get it.
But even so, I still thought monsters were supposed to always drop something, I went to kill some griffons and out of 4 only 1 droped something. It did seem odd.
Pandora's box
I did the Iron mines quest today. Next I went from Thunderhead to Marhan's grotto. All the time there only were some white items and gold dropped...
Kha
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I did the Iron mines quest today. Next I went from Thunderhead to Marhan's grotto. All the time there only were some white items and gold dropped...
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Phades
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An economy based on scarcity will rise the prices skyhigh. The only ones who have advantage of that are the Ebay sellers. When players have the feeling they can find everything they need in the game there wont be anyone foolish enough to buy on ebay. Also low prices would stop farming to sell on ebay. Its sad that making real money has such an impact on a game, but the solution is obvious: Give players the feeling that they really get better, even if they play for only 1 hour in the weekends. Hence, more and better droppings (and especially from bosses I would say).
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Witcher King
I'm curious how those who are saying this loot nerf is no big deal can solve this little paradox for me:
With farming being nerfed, good and rare item prices are going through the roof. But how is the typical player supposed to afford these rare and good items, when they have no money because loot has been nerfed? All this update does is penalize the average player and REWARD the very people it was supposed to be punishing, because now those people can sit back with all their gold max damage weapons that they've been hoarding and sell them for ridiculous prices and make EVEN MORE money. Meanwhile, the rest of us are sitting in Lion's Arch watching these chaos axes go for 400,000 and wondering wtf went wrong. This loot system is plain retarded and with as many people that are rightly complaining about it, I can only hope ArenaNet does something about it soon.
With farming being nerfed, good and rare item prices are going through the roof. But how is the typical player supposed to afford these rare and good items, when they have no money because loot has been nerfed? All this update does is penalize the average player and REWARD the very people it was supposed to be punishing, because now those people can sit back with all their gold max damage weapons that they've been hoarding and sell them for ridiculous prices and make EVEN MORE money. Meanwhile, the rest of us are sitting in Lion's Arch watching these chaos axes go for 400,000 and wondering wtf went wrong. This loot system is plain retarded and with as many people that are rightly complaining about it, I can only hope ArenaNet does something about it soon.
KaPe
"But how is the typical player supposed to afford these rare and good items"
Half of this "rare and good" items are simply overpriced crap. 400k chaos axe? Pff, it's not better than normal max damage one. But oooh, it's shiny, surely that is worth 400k.
Hell, if I knew they're so expensive, I'd be already rich, after all, I found 2 yesterday
Half of this "rare and good" items are simply overpriced crap. 400k chaos axe? Pff, it's not better than normal max damage one. But oooh, it's shiny, surely that is worth 400k.
Hell, if I knew they're so expensive, I'd be already rich, after all, I found 2 yesterday
Witcher King
The one I saw going for 400k, and it's in the Sell forum for you to see as well, was a perfect Chaos Axe. +15% damage when health is over 50%, vampiric haft for 3 hp steal, etc. If you want the best weapon for pvp, you won't be paying 400k--I just used that to show how far things are going in that direction.