#1 Guild?
Steak and Ribs
Anyone know what guild is #1? My guild is like 6791 or some silly number like that.
Quintus
Dumachum
No one knows who is #1 because 3/4 of the top 25 are GvG farmers.
dbgtboy
there are lots of really tough guilds that dont even do gvg, they do tombs all day, some top guilds quit the game, its very hard to tell which is really #1.
GothKatt
GvG farmers???
Wow thats kinda mean spirited? Or is that simply the best feeling because yo aren't in them? I'm not in one either mind you, but I don't feel that way at all. I have had the pleasure of playing with a few member of "Disturbed Froces - DFx" in the Tombs during the BWE's. Great bunch who seemed to have it together. If they are there it's because they worked for it. One Guild I have been in have gone to battle against the "Sissy Boys - sB" And they slaughtered us along their path to the top.
So I find it hard to think they are farmers, but lets face it, if they go to GvG and end up against your Unranked team, who's fault is that? If you aren't ready to accept the consiquesnces, or to play against the big Boys, stay in PVE or in the PvP. Leave the GvG to those of us who are able to live and deal with winning and defeat. We minght not like it anymore then the next group, but we are prepared to learn from it and move on.
Wow thats kinda mean spirited? Or is that simply the best feeling because yo aren't in them? I'm not in one either mind you, but I don't feel that way at all. I have had the pleasure of playing with a few member of "Disturbed Froces - DFx" in the Tombs during the BWE's. Great bunch who seemed to have it together. If they are there it's because they worked for it. One Guild I have been in have gone to battle against the "Sissy Boys - sB" And they slaughtered us along their path to the top.
So I find it hard to think they are farmers, but lets face it, if they go to GvG and end up against your Unranked team, who's fault is that? If you aren't ready to accept the consiquesnces, or to play against the big Boys, stay in PVE or in the PvP. Leave the GvG to those of us who are able to live and deal with winning and defeat. We minght not like it anymore then the next group, but we are prepared to learn from it and move on.
Elythor
Someone care to tell me what a GvG farmer is?
dbgtboy
i think it's a guild that just makes a fake guild and keeps challenging it and winning
drowningfish999
I thought it was a high-ranked guild that would make a new guild with the same players and earn lots of Faction points playing low-ranked guilds. Then when they get high they just start all over.
Makkert
how lame.
if that is true, those people obviously have no real life.
if that is true, those people obviously have no real life.
Stev0
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Originally Posted by dbgtboy
i think it's a guild that just makes a fake guild and keeps challenging it and winning
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This way the point system is porportioned to the amount of actual guilds in play.
Real rankings can come about from real challenges and stats can prove a winning guild is just that. Christ, baseball has been around long before common use of computers and even THEY kept accurate stats on just about EVERYTHING. There's no reason why players and guilds cannot have accurate stats to reflect their success.
From what I can see this ladder seems to be a farce.
Elythor
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Originally Posted by dbgtboy
i think it's a guild that just makes a fake guild and keeps challenging it and winning
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As for creating second/third guilds...I think it is more likely some of the members got bored and want to find some new excitment to play eachother. Not necessarily with malevolant intentions to 0wn noobs guilds. Heck..look at n0/p0 and the different WAR guilds....they are all in top 20 range.
-z|o-
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Originally Posted by Elythor
That is completely untrue for sure.
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Hopefully, the system will get fixed some time soon.
dbgtboy
yeah, team union got to rank #1 in 1 day, and the same with zpzg, correct me if i am wrong.
Odd Sock
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Originally Posted by drowningfish999
I thought it was a high-ranked guild that would make a new guild with the same players and earn lots of Faction points playing low-ranked guilds. Then when they get high they just start all over.
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dbgtboy
imo, who really cares what rank a guild is on the ladder, there is no bonus at being on the top, as long as i am in a good guild that can go to tombs and have fun, thats all that matters.
dargon
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Originally Posted by dbgtboy
i think it's a guild that just makes a fake guild and keeps challenging it and winning
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Dumachum
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Originally Posted by GothKatt
GvG farmers???
Wow thats kinda mean spirited? Or is that simply the best feeling because yo aren't in them? I'm not in one either mind you, but I don't feel that way at all. I have had the pleasure of playing with a few member of "Disturbed Froces - DFx" in the Tombs during the BWE's. Great bunch who seemed to have it together. If they are there it's because they worked for it. One Guild I have been in have gone to battle against the "Sissy Boys - sB" And they slaughtered us along their path to the top. So I find it hard to think they are farmers, but lets face it, if they go to GvG and end up against your Unranked team, who's fault is that? If you aren't ready to accept the consiquesnces, or to play against the big Boys, stay in PVE or in the PvP. Leave the GvG to those of us who are able to live and deal with winning and defeat. We minght not like it anymore then the next group, but we are prepared to learn from it and move on. |
And GvG farming does exist at the top, the same way most of the top alpha and current guild have exploited bugs out the ass to win in HoH since day 1. What's Anet going to do about it? They'd have to ban most of the remaining "flagship" guilds that haven't already quit the server because they didn't get UAS.
Vermilion Okeanos
I don't think anyone got the right to speak about how those people "GvG farm" unless they are within the top 100 range (where they can actually go up against the top 10).
The only thing that is a bit troubling is that most of those guild have 3 different guild so they can have different group working toward different build at the same time, and was done thx to players not being able to practice within the same guild against each other. (since their averge player online are high, if they want to all play GvG without too much drama inside the same guild... it is a must) The result, 1 same guild hold 3 spots in the ladder. So you can actually say, 100th rank is actually more like the 70th top guild.
Oh if you were to say they farm sigil all day... yes some guild does indeed farm sigil all day... tomb require alot less skills than GvG... tomb require alot more luck than GvG. Then the rest of the tomb is just knowing how to abuse the map with certain things.
The only thing that is a bit troubling is that most of those guild have 3 different guild so they can have different group working toward different build at the same time, and was done thx to players not being able to practice within the same guild against each other. (since their averge player online are high, if they want to all play GvG without too much drama inside the same guild... it is a must) The result, 1 same guild hold 3 spots in the ladder. So you can actually say, 100th rank is actually more like the 70th top guild.
Oh if you were to say they farm sigil all day... yes some guild does indeed farm sigil all day... tomb require alot less skills than GvG... tomb require alot more luck than GvG. Then the rest of the tomb is just knowing how to abuse the map with certain things.
xaanix
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Originally Posted by Elythor
Someone care to tell me what a GvG farmer is?
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Take my guild for example, we're rank 12th on the ladder currently. We know that there are very few guilds (mostly in the top 10) who can beat us. If we wanted to farm gvg, all we'd have to do is figure out which guilds are playing out of the ones we know we might lose to, then stagger our match starts so that we dont get them in a match. Anyone else we got in random match would be basically a sure win. Now, we dont do this, but i've seen guilds who do.. One of which is quite well known.
Alathys Tylderaan
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Originally Posted by dargon
Nope, it's sure not, since the only type of battle you can get against a SPECIFIC guild is an unranked one. unranked = practice = no ladder change.
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Raiddinn Beatdropper
PVP, I would say Negative Zero is probably best, with Sissy Boys right on their heels.
I have PVPd against a lot of teams, and the 2 games where we got really owned were those two. I have also lost to pretty much the whole top 20 and beaten a lot of top 50 teams, so thats my experience with it.
Tsunamii Starshine
I have PVPd against a lot of teams, and the 2 games where we got really owned were those two. I have also lost to pretty much the whole top 20 and beaten a lot of top 50 teams, so thats my experience with it.
Tsunamii Starshine
Mormegil
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Originally Posted by Raiddinn Beatdropper
PVP, I would say Negative Zero is probably best, with Sissy Boys right on their heels.
I have PVPd against a lot of teams, and the 2 games where we got really owned were those two. I have also lost to pretty much the whole top 20 and beaten a lot of top 50 teams, so thats my experience with it. Tsunamii Starshine |
GothKatt
Yeah, we're a "competitive" guild. We enjoy our PvP, and our GvG and a good number of the members will turn up if you need help in PvE. We are not however arrogant! All of our matches end with multiple "gg"'s and variants, wether we win or lose.
And One has to start wondering about your particular interest in the topic? Do you simply hate us "arrogant "competetive PvP" pricks" because Your now " top 80" "defunct guild" just couldn't make the cut? Maybe they decided to drop you for what ever reason so feel the need to lash out? What's your motivation to come out and bash guilds?
So by your opinion, any guild that makes it to the top has to be cheating? it has to be taking advantage or exploiting some function of the game? I think I'm going to do what the majority are doing, wait and see if you can actually produce some legitimate proof of this, or if you're just crying foul because you can't be part of it. or buy your way into it.
And One has to start wondering about your particular interest in the topic? Do you simply hate us "arrogant "competetive PvP" pricks" because Your now " top 80" "defunct guild" just couldn't make the cut? Maybe they decided to drop you for what ever reason so feel the need to lash out? What's your motivation to come out and bash guilds?
So by your opinion, any guild that makes it to the top has to be cheating? it has to be taking advantage or exploiting some function of the game? I think I'm going to do what the majority are doing, wait and see if you can actually produce some legitimate proof of this, or if you're just crying foul because you can't be part of it. or buy your way into it.
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I don't even GvG as my guild at the moment is a small bunch of friends from another game of less then 8 people. And the fact that since I left my old defunct guild, was top 80 btw, I haven't had any interest in GvG battles. Which is also fine because I hated being around all the arrogant "competetive PvP" pricks like you.
And GvG farming does exist at the top, the same way most of the top alpha and current guild have exploited bugs out the ass to win in HoH since day 1. What's Anet going to do about it? They'd have to ban most of the remaining "flagship" guilds that haven't already quit the server because they didn't get UAS. |
Kingofblades
Its not too hard to farm guilds to the top of the ladder. Make a guild, get it within rank to challenge a few of the top guilds (in which you have a person with henchmen waiting to accept the challenge) beat the guild and get to the top of the ladder. Korea has been using this for awhile (check the ladder). They need to do something about it, as I want to actually see who is legitimately ranked where on the ladder instead of a bunch of dummy guilds taking up rank on the top. Next thing you know its going to be Korea taking up 8-9 spots with only n0 being in top 10 ; /
I liked the idea a previous poster had that you get 1 point if you beat a specific guild, and they really need to add in statistics as it will make the game alot more fun to see records of players in the guild, information about the guild etc. What gaile was talking about was pretty neat.. I just hope we see it before the next expansion. Observer mode should be along fairly quickly
Fraps along with that should expose any cheaters to the community fairly quickly and then hopefully action will be taken by a.net.
I liked the idea a previous poster had that you get 1 point if you beat a specific guild, and they really need to add in statistics as it will make the game alot more fun to see records of players in the guild, information about the guild etc. What gaile was talking about was pretty neat.. I just hope we see it before the next expansion. Observer mode should be along fairly quickly
Fraps along with that should expose any cheaters to the community fairly quickly and then hopefully action will be taken by a.net.
Akilles
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Originally Posted by dbgtboy
i think it's a guild that just makes a fake guild and keeps challenging it and winning
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smgzor
As far as i know, none of the top 20 guilds are currently farming. Just because they have multiple guilds doesn't necessicarily mean they are farming points off of eachother. There's only about 3-4 guilds in the top 20 that I haven't played, and those guilds don't really look like they are farming points. All of the top 20 guilds imo are good guilds and know how to play the game well. Even if they farmed their way to the top, they are holding their place there by not farming. No matter what you are going to go against one of the top 20 sometime unless you were extremely careful about it. Since my guild has played most of them i am pretty confident nobody is actually "cheating"
Xellos
So the question is Xaanix, does Centrex ever play GvG sober? :P
ziggie
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Originally Posted by Xellos
So the question is Xaanix, does Centrex ever play GvG sober? :P
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