How come only one Elite skill at a time?

Profius Odin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Guards of The Wall

R/E

We can equip only one Elite Skill at a time? Since when? Bug? Or devs decided that few elites on the bar is too much?

Lacroix

Lacroix

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Gentlemen's Club

E/

Too many Elite skills at a time would unbalance the game. If we could have more than one, how many people would have a "Martyr/Signet of Agony" combo going on? I know I would.

I suppose it's there to balance the game.

dargon

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

R/

or poison arrow + melandrus arrows.

Enigmatics

Enigmatics

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Tenafly, NJ

Defenders of Rillanon

W/Mo

Or cleave+eviscerate+battle rage+warriors endurance+defy pain+mark of protection

Algren Cole

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by dargon
or poison arrow + melandrus arrows.

Poison Arrow is an elite?

arnansnow

arnansnow

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

DOOM

E/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Algren Cole
Poison Arrow is an elite?

Yes poison arrow is an elite. You may have confused it with apply poison.

Profius Odin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Guards of The Wall

R/E

It's because of you "perverts" we can't have more than one elite on the bar. You always find some combination to own everybody else. Why can't you be just normal? j/k

Profius Odin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Guards of The Wall

R/E

Maybe devs can group Elites in subgroups, to let us use at least 2-3 average Elite skills from those that are not so uber so we can't make destroying combinations.
Or, at lease allow us to use more than one elite in PvE. Or else there is no point to have so many elites. If you can use only one, why there is 15 elites for each profession? Some of them have even 16-17 elites. I don't see a point in having so many of you can use only ONE at a time.

Algren Cole

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by arnansnow
Yes poison arrow is an elite. You may have confused it with apply poison.

you know me so well cupcake

arnansnow

arnansnow

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

DOOM

E/N

They made it so you can only have one at a time because, otherwise they are just like normal abilities. They needed some sort of better-than-the-others abilities, and they wanted them to be special, so they limited the amount you can have.

If they make it so you can use multiple, they become insanely cheap, and their is no use in calling them elites anymore, as most elites are just upgraded versions of other spells.

Bingley Joe

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Philosophers of Denravi

Quote:
Originally Posted by Profius Odin
Maybe devs can group Elites in subgroups, to let us use at least 2-3 average Elite skills from those that are not so uber so we can't make destroying combinations.
Or, at lease allow us to use more than one elite in PvE. Or else there is no point to have so many elites. If you can use only one, why there is 15 elites for each profession? Some of them have even 16-17 elites. I don't see a point in having so many of you can use only ONE at a time.
"Average Elite skills"? What would you call the really good Elite skills then? Elite Elite, maybe?

The reason there are so many Elite skills to choose from should be obvious -- it's so that you have some CHOICE about how to make a build. Same reason we need more than one skill in any attribute line. You suss-out your opponent's abilities, and try to put together a collection of skills from your pool to shut them down..

The "Elite" skills aren't necessarily all-powerful on their own, but are limited to one at a time because in combination with certain other skills (elite or non-elite alike), they can become pretty "uber" (aka: Significantly Above Average Elite) and un-balance the game..

Which two Elites would you like to run at the same time?

Doctor Anomalo

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

San Diego, CA

R/W

elite skills are overpowered (or at least are meant to be). for example, their low energy cost. thus, you can have only one (compare to the legendary cards of magic: the gathering).

CKaz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Doctor Anomalo
(compare to the legendary cards of magic: the gathering).
of which I still have a box and a half to unload..
really enjoyed the game but oh the time and money sink

Bueno Star

Bueno Star

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Las Vegas, NV

Digital Heroes

Mo/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by dargon
or poison arrow + melandrus arrows.
i'd be rocking greater conf., barrage and melandrus arrows. lol

Rajamic

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

IA

Chronicles of Heroes [CoH]

R/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bueno Star
i'd be rocking greater conf., barrage and melandrus arrows. lol
Barrage would remove Melandru's Arrows anyway. :-P

How about Practiced Stance + Echo + Incendiary Arrows?

Lasher Dragon

Lasher Dragon

Draconic Rage Incarnate

Join Date: Apr 2005

Iowa

Alphahive

R/A

I'd be happy with barrage, poison arrow and escape for PvE... that would be tight.

Linkie

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

Norway

P/W

The reason they made elites in the first place was to stop abusable combos. IW + Hundred Blades is a good example.

Bueno Star

Bueno Star

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Las Vegas, NV

Digital Heroes

Mo/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rajamic
Barrage would remove Melandru's Arrows anyway. :-P

How about Practiced Stance + Echo + Incendiary Arrows?

damn, i forget about that. in fact, i do that in-game sometimes too. lmao

*clicks apply poison followed by barrage* ....."DOH!"

Slade xTekno

Slade xTekno

Rawr.

Join Date: Apr 2005

Read or Die Stooge Forum

W/

Elite skills are not the best, per se, but would cause imbalance if they were combined with others. IW + Hundred Blades + Signet of Midnight 4tw?

Profius Odin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Guards of The Wall

R/E

Ok, I think this topic may be considered closed.

ICURADik

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

Yet another reason why Mesmers tend to make the best secondaries.

Brother Mhenlo

Brother Mhenlo

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Michigan

Gangstas in the Hood [HooD], The Impossible is Possible [DUPE]

why dont u ask arenanet or something, or think about it, was this post just to whine about what everyone knows, use ur brain plz before asking stupid questions PLZ, cant anyone think b4 asking questions that is soooo annoying-gosh

derrtyboy69

derrtyboy69

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Clouds

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Mo/Me

the point of elite skills is that they are the best skills (when used correctly), and and to keep the balance of the game, the number of elites allowed was restricted.

MaglorD

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Actually you can have more than one elite at a time, provided you capture elite skills during that run. But it only lasts for that run.

So if you loaded say 1 elite and 7 socs. And killed 7 bosses in that run, you'd have 8 elites in your skill bar.