Best Armour for Warriors?

I am curious what mix for armours is good for warriors

I know 1 piece or "Reduce Damage" armour is need and thats all i know. I have the ascalon 15k helment, and the rest all gladitor armour. is this a good combo? What do you guys wear?

Also Why does everyone use platemail other than the fact it looks cool.

Platemail offers the best statistics for warrios.Knights armor seems better at first glance but since runes of absorptions (that's what's built into each piece) do not stack you are only reducing each hit by 2. And 2 really isn't all that much. Platemail offers better defence against attacks and its pretty much the best bang for your buck.

I personally prefer Gladiators Armor. It doesn't look as nice as some of the others, but I desperatly need energy, and it gets that done.

Platemail offers 85 armour and 10armour vs physical attack

Gladitor offers 80 armour and 20 armour vs physical attack

An the fact that you get attacked physical than with magic wouldnt the gladitor armour over 100 in total and platemail only 95?

I just use all dragons dyed black, I went by looks, also 85 +10physical isnt bad, 75k +materials, dragon helm should be changed, I dont like it

i like knights over plate in looks.maybe thats just me....

Where did you get that information?
When I buy a knights armor, it doesn´t say knight´s armor of minor absorption!

It has the natural statistic "Reduces damage from attacks" on every piece of the knight's set, so it's like you have that minor absorption rune in each piece without actually having the rune taking up the slot on your armor.

I thought it was like a Major Absorb... 2 pts rather than 1. So if you have a Superior Absorb, which is 3, the "Reduces damage from attacks" mod is neutralized. Right?

An absorbtion rune and the knights armor stack but you only need 1 piece of the knights armor as those pieces don't stack with eachother. It's the same as a rune and headgear stacking for other classes (so you can have 16 in 1 attribute)

You guys might want to look up how armor works.

1. For one its regional. Your body has 8 zones it can be hit in. The armor value is applied based to the attack, based on what zone it hits. Yout body and your legs take up more "zones"

Head -size1
Body- size3
Leggings- size2
All others -size1

Thus if you have Gladiators on your Body, but knights on your legs, and the blow the enemy throws at you happens to hit your body, you would have the gladitators value applied to that hit.

2. The Absorpotion ability built into armor is diffrent from the rune. First of all, it alwaysa stacks. Its a built in ability, its only runes that don't stack, not the armor itself. IF you look at the chart above you will notice that gladiators gives that same exact bonus to energy, as it has slots on your body. this of course was by design. EAch peice of Ascalon armor gives you Absorption based true, however i am NOT sure how much it gives you. I would think that it gives -1 per size much like Gladitators gives on energy per size, but i am not sure on this. THat would mean with a Sup absorption and a full absorption set you would have -11 total to your absorption.

3. What is indisputable is that the bonus for Absorption in armor DO STACK. Otherwise what is to keep me from getting one peice of Anscalon armor and then all gladiator armor, and thus get the benifit from both sets? its also pretty clear that gladitor armor has better total against physical attack, only slighty weaker against magic, AND gives you a bonus to energy? for the simple sake of balance the plate bonus has to stack.

4. Armor is not cumulative. In that, if you have a 50 armor piece of head gear, and your buck naked, that doesn;t mean that 50 armoe head gear protects your entire body for 50 armor. it means if your struck in the head by an enemy (because attacks are location specific) You will have that protection, otherwise you are assed out.

I hope i cleared some of that up. Please correct me if i got any of this wrong, i read this in a very thourough guide on this site somewhere.

Absorption doesn't stack... So if you got 1 piece of knights armor you *would* get the benefit of the whole set's absorption. You're absolutely right about the mechanics of armor. As a reminder to those debating which armor choice, spells in general always hit your chest piece.

Rune of absorption *does* stack with knights

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Clarified; I thought you meant something else.

So if I have "reduce damage" in my helment and i get hit in my body, it will still -2 the damage? Also purely going on defensive stats, wouldnt gladitors armour be almost similar or even better than platemail since most warriors are hit by phsyical hits. Platemail offers 85 armour + 10 against phsyical = 95 / Gladitors offers 80 armour + 20 against phsyical =100 + the fact i need atleast 24-25 energy

Do you not read? "Reduce damage" is universal. It doesn't matter where you are hit, as long as you are wearing one piece of armor with it, that reduction is applied.

I got hit by a chain lightning for 147 damage! The only way that creature could deal that damage was the spell hit my head and not my chest! Head had AL 30 and I had AL 60 everywhere else, my guildmate had AL 30 everywhere and was hit for the same damage!

147 is about what I would expect a guy with 16 air magic to do to an armor 60 guy. Remember it has 25% armor penetration.

This may have been true at one point but it isn't anymore. All attacks use hit locations to the best of my knowledge.

Otherwise everything you've said has been spot on.


Yes, it would.


It is most certainly disputable because those bonuses most certainly do not stack, under rigorous testing. No, it's not balanced, but that's how things work.


For the seven billionth time, Gladiator's everything with Knight's Boots, the attribute helm of your choice, and Stoneskin Gauntlets if applicible. That is the unconditional best armor in the game, and the only reason not to run that is for looks.

Peace,
-CxE

Best i guess is the Gladiator Armor.


"PIG" Platemail or the 15k Armor

85 Armor + 10 vs . phis. attacks = 95

Gladiator

80 Armor + 20 vs . phis. attacks = 100 ( + 5 )

Then put some Runes voila. Gladiator may look "diffrent", but gain 8 + Energy(blue). So with a Shield :

Platemail max MANA 20

Gladiatorl max MANA 28

I prefer Gladiator armor as well, but why oh why did they make it look sooo gay.

Gladiator armor looks so bad, I just won't wear it.

I still like dragon for the chest/head. Most lightning/fire spells hit these two areas 90% of the time. Legs/Gloves get Gladiators, and Feet get Knights.

After reading many of your posts Ensign, I wanted to ask where you would get stoneskin gauntlets and what are its attributes? I agree with all the armor you listed, excluding the fact that I do not know what stoneskin gauntlets are.

Stoneskin (Stonefist? They changed the name before and might have again) are 75 + 20 AL gauntlets that add a second to knockdowns without specified knockdown durations. This includes everything from Devastating Hammer to Bull's Strike to Shock. As all you give up for it is 5 AL on a 1/8 hit chance area, it's a complete no-brainer if you use any knockdown skills.

I would assume you could craft a pair in Droknar's Forge.

Peace,
-Cxe

A lvl 17 smoke phantom shouldn´t have 16 points in air. My guild mate had an AL of 30 everywhere and was hit for exactly the same damage!!!

Where did you get this fact?

1. As someone already mentioned, while it was true at one point that spells only hit the chest, a patch has changed that. I can't say exactly when that one came out, but I read the updates religiously and remember it quite clearly.

2. You'd be surprised how 1-sided the enemy attributes are often stacked. An attribute of 16 on an enemy while your (assuming it's balanced with 3/4 diff attributes) character is still dreaming of a 12 isn't uncommon. I notice this most with the elementalists and mesmer, probably because I myself stack attributes heavily when playing those classes and often the enemies far surpass my damage output at the same level. It's particularly telling with mesmers, as they have a lot of armor ignoring skills (in other cases, and uneven armor level might be the cause of uneven damage).

Indeed, that's what I carry, that's what you should carry. If you care that much about the looks, buy the FOW armor The only way to look descend again.

Gladiator was my favorite armor, but since I everyone thinks too much of man bras, I personally dont think its a bra, I think of it more as a battle vest.
Gladiator armor is best for stats, but im kind of 75% cools and 25% stats, so I would go with PLATEMAIL ARMOR!

Ideally you would want your damage absorb armor (Ascalon or Knights) to be in the area that gets struck the least since Knights/Ascalon has less armor than Gladiators/Platemail. These two areas are the gauntlets and the boots. If you are using the Stone gauntlets for knockdown, the best place is the boots (personally I find that knights boots look ok with any armor, so I always use the boots rather than gauntlets).

For physical:
Platemail = 95
Gladiators = 100

For elemental:
Platemale = 85
Gladiators = 80

So clearly the armor difference is just moving 5 armor around, although you should note that because of diminishing returns 85/95 is slightly better than 80/100. Ideally 90/90 spread would be the best because that would get the most effect out of the diminishing returns. However, Gladiators does give you a lot more mana and that one extra spell will usually erase any small difference there is (wheter it is because you kill the opponent one hit faster or you heal yourself, etc). However, there are never any absolutes. If you know you will be facing massive elemental damage, platemail will be better. If you are fighting melee (i.e. most PvE situations) then undoubtly Gladiators with either knights gauntlets/boots is best.

Unfortunately, this means that if you made a male warrior you have to wear what I have heard several players complain "a bra". Since Fissure looks the same regardless of what type it is, I guess you can mix and match without look too awkward (unfortunately thats millions of gold).