Griffon Run

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Wilds Pathfinder
#201
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Originally Posted by paunamula
sorry to be asking about divine boon again. but i think the reason i am confused, is because divine boon is a maintained enchanment. if you keep spamming it over and over, won't those enchanments stack up and give you negative energy regeneration?
It just recasts over the previous cast so you will only have 1 divine boon on yourself at once.
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Orochim4ru
Lion's Arch Merchant
#202
only one copy of the enchant can exist on you at a certain time, the previous copy is overwritten.
Sanity
Sanity
Ascalonian Squire
#203
what progarm did you use to make the video?
Dazzler
Dazzler
Krytan Explorer
#204
I've switched up my E/Mo build to something more effective--I can now handle the entire group usually--although I can still rarely kill the bosses. New build:

Water: 15 (hat + sup rune)
Smiting: 11
E Storage: whatever is left...8 or 9 I think.

Divine Boon
Balthazars Aura
Zealouts Fire
Watchful Spirit
Balthazars Spirit
Essence Bond
Mist Form {E}
Armor of Frost

Start off casting Balthazar's Spirt, Essence Bond, Watchful Spirit (2 pips health regen--needed while luring the griffons).

Then lure the 3 sets of minotaurs. Once I've got the minotaurs on me, I cast Armor of Frost to pump up my armor while I lure the griffons, since they hit me alot during the lure. Then go gather as many griffons as I can and try to shake the damn MF rockshots. Keep doing this until I either have them all rounded up and no rockshots nearby or until my health drops to about 150. At that point I stop and cast:

Mist Form
Balth. Aura
Spam Divine Boon
Cast Armor of Frost whenever it recharges
Spam Divine Boon and cast Balth. Aura whenever it is available.
Recast Mist Form whenever it is available.

Once some of the monsters die I start having E issues. You will then find me plinking away with my staff and casting Divine Boon whenever my E hits 5. During this period, I will often make sure I "remove" the active Divine Boon enchantment so I can get that pip of E regen. I can beat the monk boss usually but it is not really worth it as it comes down to 5 minute duel of attrition as I wear him down with my staff while waiting to charge up to 25 E to cast Balthazars Aura. Considering I can do the entire run in under 4 minutes, it is not worth my time to spend another 5 just to kill this one boss when usually he drops nothing special.
badassmonkee
badassmonkee
Frost Gate Guardian
#205
wait? you have zealots fire in your skill bar but you dont use it?

i used your setup and used zealots fire just after mist form and it kills them much faster. i think you just forgot to mantion that.
Dazzler
Dazzler
Krytan Explorer
#206
yeah I forgot to mention that. Spamming Divine Boon doesn't do much without it. LOL. I cast it right after Mist Form. And I use the collectors Water Staff with +18% Enchanting mod.

Actually I tweaked it a little more and now I can kill the bosses. I have to do the run in 2 steps b/c I will die during the lure if I try to go for the last 2 pockets of Griffins.

Anyway, I replaced Watchful Spirit with Symbol of Wrath and now I can pwn it all.
Phades
Phades
Desert Nomad
#207
I am curious how you deal with the griffs that dont want to get next to you and just kinda wait till one of em dies. When i do that as an ele i usually have to be mindful of the griffon pack sizes and how many packs are involved due to mana constraints.
Dazzler
Dazzler
Krytan Explorer
#208
When I use using Ele firepower and Eruption they would cause me a problem. This current build is not bothered by that. While Mist Form is up, they can't hurt me when they come in late. When Mist Form is not up, I try to have Armor of Frost up, which adds 40 armor so they do alot less damage. And I increased my Water to 16, so with 16 Water and +18% enchanting, my Mist Form lasts about 24.5 seconds. Recharge time is 30s and casting time is 2s, so I am without mistform for only about 8s, which with good Armor and with alot of the mobs dead I can survive the remaining onse fairly easy. It gets annoying when only 1-2 are left as then my E starts to plummet but also I am taking alot less dmg so I can afford for the battle to take longer.
Phades
Phades
Desert Nomad
#209
Sounds like how i experience it, generally i end up having to run them around while i build up some energy while sacrificing a few hp as possible. Its just rather, frustrating that the pbaoe is so small that it wont go even 1 rank deep.
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Bml Angrymuffin
Frost Gate Guardian
#210
hello uhm i have a few questions. do u use any superior runes? and if so whats ur life with the sups?
badassmonkee
badassmonkee
Frost Gate Guardian
#211
depends if you have any vigors on you

minor vigor - 30hp
major vigor - 41hp (dont ask me why)
sup vigor - 50hp

your max health is 480 with no vigors on i think. Dazzler uses one sup vig which is -75 so thats about 405hp. 446 with major vig and 455 with sup vig.

i might be wrong with some of that tho..

btw have the griffons been nerfed? im getting really crummy drops. :|
badassmonkee
badassmonkee
Frost Gate Guardian
#212
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzler
When I use using Ele firepower and Eruption they would cause me a problem. This current build is not bothered by that. While Mist Form is up, they can't hurt me when they come in late. When Mist Form is not up, I try to have Armor of Frost up, which adds 40 armor so they do alot less damage. And I increased my Water to 16, so with 16 Water and +18% enchanting, my Mist Form lasts about 24.5 seconds. Recharge time is 30s and casting time is 2s, so I am without mistform for only about 8s, which with good Armor and with alot of the mobs dead I can survive the remaining onse fairly easy. It gets annoying when only 1-2 are left as then my E starts to plummet but also I am taking alot less dmg so I can afford for the battle to take longer.
Bring blessed Aura and you will have only 3 seconds mortality. ;P
Dazzler
Dazzler
Krytan Explorer
#213
Quote:
Originally Posted by badassmonkee
depends if you have any vigors on you

minor vigor - 30hp
major vigor - 41hp (dont ask me why)
sup vigor - 50hp

your max health is 480 with no vigors on i think. Dazzler uses one sup vig which is -75 so thats about 405hp. 446 with major vig and 455 with sup vig.

i might be wrong with some of that tho..

btw have the griffons been nerfed? im getting really crummy drops. :|
Yeah I have 1 superior rune and 1 major vigor, leaving me with 446 HP's. When I was using my Fire/Water build, I went with 2 superior runes but once the battle started I switched to my fire staff which had +29 Fortitude, leaving me with 405 HP.

And, I have not noticed any nerfings. I got 4 max gold weapons in about an hour's work yesterday, plus quite a few gold shields which I always either salvage or sell to the merchant.

Do people actually buy gold shields? Should I be trying to sell them? I so dislike selling to people, it takes too long. I have a few "clients" that have standing orders in to buy unidentified gold max dmg weapons from me at a set price so I don't have to waste anytime when selling them.

Oh, I also found a non-max dmg gold weapon yesterday which I id'ed and ended up getting a perfect 10/10 sundering hammer grip which I sold for 30k. So I would say it is not nerfed.

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Bring blessed Aura and you will have only 3 seconds mortality. ;P
I can't use that for 3 reasons:
  1. I just don't have room on my skillbar.
  2. According to the description, it only lengthens Monk enchantments, so won't affect Mist Form
  3. As a non-monk primary, I cannot boost my Divine Favor, so it would only give me 10% anyway.
I Am A Sasquatch
I Am A Sasquatch
Lion's Arch Merchant
#214
what kind of armor are you using?
Numa Pompilius
Numa Pompilius
Grotto Attendant
#215
I just farmed some griffons, and... have they been nerfed?
I mean, I got a ton of white & blue stuff which could've dropped in a mission in northern shiverpeaks, then I got a golden longbow 14-21 +4 armor & "longer duration of poisoning" and a purple shortbow 11-19 +10% vs Charr.

At that point I decided the party was over.
Dazzler
Dazzler
Krytan Explorer
#216
Quote:
Originally Posted by I Am A Sasquatch
what kind of armor are you using?

Me? I'm just using Hydromancer armor (AR: 60). When I cast Armor of Frost, that adds I think 40 more, taking me to 100 for ~35s.
I Am A Sasquatch
I Am A Sasquatch
Lion's Arch Merchant
#217
oh i meant what armor is the guy wearing in the video
Racthoh
Racthoh
Did I hear 7 heroes?
#218
I believe he is wearing full Wyverns armour.
capitalist
capitalist
Furnace Stoker
#219
Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
I just farmed some griffons, and... have they been nerfed?
I mean, I got a ton of white & blue stuff which could've dropped in a mission in northern shiverpeaks, then I got a golden longbow 14-21 +4 armor & "longer duration of poisoning" and a purple shortbow 11-19 +10% vs Charr.

At that point I decided the party was over.
Not nerfed, but maybe a run of bad luck. I got a couple of decent drops yesterday, but nothing beats the Gold Max Defender Req8 with +7AR vs Charr
Racthoh
Racthoh
Did I hear 7 heroes?
#220
Quote:
Originally Posted by capitalist
Not nerfed, but maybe a run of bad luck. I got a couple of decent drops yesterday, but nothing beats the Gold Max Defender Req8 with +7AR vs Charr
Except how often will you be fighting Charr?