Bad Dial up rumors?

Ed1337

Ed1337

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

I've seen alot of places showing people that say dial up wont work on guild wars because the streaming dl stuff... can somsone tell me if this is false or true becuase Guildwar.com QnA said its works great on it.

Anyone know? Anyone who played the previous betas on dial up know?

sk33zl0w

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

I have dsl now but i played the wpe with dial-up it worked well enough for me. Now i have dsl which is working better for me.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Several dial up people have reported no problems.

after you enter an area the first time and get the area loaded future trips are fast

the retail cd may have most everything on it any way

Ed1337

Ed1337

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

but how does the streaming dl not affect the games ping (i get 3kbs on my downloads...)

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed1337
but how does the streaming dl not affect the games ping (i get 3kbs on my downloads...)
i dont know the technical details but it works

EDIT

*ping* has what to do with download speed?

We have designed Guild Wars to function excellently on a dial-up connection and our testers confirm they have no problems with their connection, even testing from other continents.

Sin

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2005

The Joint :p

I played on dial up the first BWE, so....

Advice

Run the client now, get the downloading of updates to the client going on, no need to put in pass and all that just run the client.

When playing the game

PVE: Go into the explorable and mission areas alone to download the map information ahead of time. Just walk in and let it download. When it's done go back into the outpost or just die to get back, and join a group. Only about 5-30 seconds you will show up, not too far if behind your team at all

PVP: I wouldn't do PVP on dial-up. My team waited I didn't see for 45 minutes the first battle, somehow we won. The second battle wasn't 45 minutes, it was 6 months ago, so I remember it was at least 5 minutes, maybe 20 minutes. I don't know why it doesn't seem to really help with PVP unless the data from the other players on both teams.

Hope this helps.

Freyas

Freyas

Champion of the Absurd

Join Date: Jan 2005

Spirits of War

Mo/W

I know several people who play the alpha regularly with dialup. The only places where dialup will really adversely affect you is in map downloading, which shouldn't be a problem once the game is released, and you get the game info on CD/DVD, so you'll have far less to download. You'll have some stuff to download when entering a mission even then, as you'll need to get the info on the other players in the mission, but nothing bad. The streaming technology just uses spare bandwidth that you have to pre-download things that you might need in the future- if you're sitting in an outpost, the game will automatically start downloading updates for the mission for instance, but it will happen in the background, and shouldn't adversely affect game performance.

Ed1337

Ed1337

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

So Dial up will keep me from getting the games fun qualitys liek pvping?
dang... only thing i can really do is quests
or is this true?

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed1337
So Dial up will keep me from getting the games fun qualitys liek pvping?
dang... only thing i can really do is quests
or is this true?
if it is a short quick pvp you will be hosed as it will be over before you get in unless most of what is downloaded now is on the cd

a big long guild v guild action should not matter have fun

wait until you have the cd material to work with to see what changes it makes

if you dont have to download something in the retail you download now for beta it might help a lot

Remember that PVP is an important part and the game people said it was dial up friendly without making exceptions for pvp excluded

i would consider that a good sign

Sin

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2005

The Joint :p

I merely shared my personal experience with it.

My dial-up, at the time was a whopping 26,400-28,800 best connection. The following month, after about 2 years arguing with the phone company because I am 17,000 cable feet from the phone company office, they put in an extender of some kind.

Finally dial up at 48-50k but obviously more important DSL! Cable was an option the whole time....kinda. But they had this monopoly and the city didn't care so it was 100 a month for cable internet. It has since gone down but is stilll more than DSL. I got the 384k-1.5m package for 40 a month at the time.

Roken

Roken

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Jacksonville, Florida (US)

Corpse Ecstacy[Crps]

N/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sin
I merely shared my personal experience with it.

My dial-up, at the time was a whopping 26,400-28,800 best connection. The following month, after about 2 years arguing with the phone company because I am 17,000 cable feet from the phone company office, they put in an extender of some kind.

Finally dial up at 48-50k but obviously more important DSL! Cable was an option the whole time....kinda. But they had this monopoly and the city didn't care so it was 100 a month for cable internet. It has since gone down but is stilll more than DSL. I got the 384k-1.5m package for 40 a month at the time.
BellSouth DSL is the same price as Dial-up (AOL) here. 128k-256k for $24. I hope to be switching soon. The only downside is its close to $300 upfront, but half or so is refundable.