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Skills - Animate Bone Minions
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Saridley Kronah
This is a good skill to have for despererate times, i had lots of undead around me, cast well of blood - summoned the minions and then cast death nova then selected them as they both died and killed everything around me :P
Epinephrine
It also is the easiest of the animates to use as an energy battery - with 13+ Soul Reaping they generate energy. With minions up you effectively have spent nothing raising them, merely put the energy on hold till they die.
Disoblige
Do you know minions are terribly weak. I fought a lvl 13 bone minion and it does 13 damage to my puny elementarist. I was just laughing so hard trying to kill me.
velgar
They might be weak alone but that's not the point. Usually you have an whole army of minion, multiply that 13 damage by 5-10 and you have an awsome damage spell...
dinglenut
I have had upwards of 40 minions all lvl 12 and 17 effectivly between the minions and fiends. No one had to do anything the whole mission, just call a target and sit back, the monk healed me from using blood of the master and verata's sacrifice but well worth it, I was never low on mana and had a great time doing it. It got to the point we had so many people kept getting stuck in a heard of them. Its really quite a blast using the collectors bone staff with 20/20 death and loading up on minions non stop using high soul reaping. they may do little damage but when your surrounded by 30ish critters you die period. unless your built to take just that.
Eskimo Bob
Thing about having multiple minions is that damage reduction plays a major role. SInce it is multiple small attacks, damage reduction effects each attack seperately. Like my warrior has a total of 7 reduction (3 from rune, 2 from ascalon, 2 from shield). Then if I had shielding hands on me, the minions would be doing about 0 damage each hit to me.
theclam
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Originally Posted by Eskimo Bob
Thing about having multiple minions is that damage reduction plays a major role. SInce it is multiple small attacks, damage reduction effects each attack seperately. Like my warrior has a total of 7 reduction (3 from rune, 2 from ascalon, 2 from shield). Then if I had shielding hands on me, the minions would be doing about 0 damage each hit to me.
This is a good point. This skill works very well with Mark of Pain or Barbs. I don't believe it works with Order of Pain, since it says it only affects party members, not allies.
Ogg
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Originally Posted by Eskimo Bob
Thing about having multiple minions is that damage reduction plays a major role. SInce it is multiple small attacks, damage reduction effects each attack seperately. Like my warrior has a total of 7 reduction (3 from rune, 2 from ascalon, 2 from shield). Then if I had shielding hands on me, the minions would be doing about 0 damage each hit to me.
Until you start Death Nova - Taste of Death - cycle on them. You are now getting hit for 100+ damage every second. And you are stuck in middle of them, can't run away, cut off from your target. In other words, you are no longer a threat to anything, and can be taken down whenever it suits summoners whim...
And even that 0-1+ points of damage, which they might be doing thru your defenses will make you fall down. 40+, each with 1+ point of damage.. Thats ~12 seconds until you join their ranks.
Add Barbs, and they become really scary threat, which can cut thru anything in seconds.
And even that 0-1+ points of damage, which they might be doing thru your defenses will make you fall down. 40+, each with 1+ point of damage.. Thats ~12 seconds until you join their ranks.
Add Barbs, and they become really scary threat, which can cut thru anything in seconds.
Epinephrine
And they are free. The fact that they generate more energy dying than they cost to raise with enough Soul Reaping makes them fine - I don't mind them being mediocre damage, short lived creatures - they only cost me a corpse, and they are walking bombs to boot.
Lasher Dragon
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Originally Posted by Epinephrine
And they are free. The fact that they generate more energy dying than they cost to raise with enough Soul Reaping makes them fine - I don't mind them being mediocre damage, short lived creatures - they only cost me a corpse, and they are walking bombs to boot.
Yes, yeeeessssssss..... For The Overmind!!!!!!!
LOL I love playing my death necro with my collector staff or my recently acquired collector truncheon/grim cesta combo.
LOL I love playing my death necro with my collector staff or my recently acquired collector truncheon/grim cesta combo.
DiStUrBeD_AzN
I love this skill... The fact that they DO generate more mana than they use and can be used as bombs or tanks is highly effective.
My question is...
Anyone actually use a Minion Necro for PVP?
Whats a collector's staff? A staff from the collector? If so, from who?
My question is...
Anyone actually use a Minion Necro for PVP?
Whats a collector's staff? A staff from the collector? If so, from who?
Akimb0
They dont seem to last long enough...can anyone give me some hints on how to make them effective? I can never manage to have more than say 5 at a time and by the time ive summoned 5th 1st is nearly dead.
Avantos
Use Verata's sacrifice to refresh their life. I suppose Blood of the Master works, but that only affects surrounding minions.
This is a very effective skill even for secondary necromancers as it allows you to quite literally, solo any area where the monsters leave corpses.
This is a very effective skill even for secondary necromancers as it allows you to quite literally, solo any area where the monsters leave corpses.
Epinephrine
They're not meant to last long - they are a nice source of death for energy and for death novae. I think any build using Minions rather than Horrors or Fiends is likely banking on things like Barbs and Mark of Pain that trigger per attack, and effects like death nova that trigger on death.
Yellow_lid
Minions as bombs are awsome! There was one time when I was surrounded by like 6 jungle trolls, well I had like 4-5 minions that all went off simultaneously. It was a beautiful sight. Everything on the screen but me, dead. Wish I had got a screenshot.
The biggest downside to minion bombs is if you die, nova kills your team. Then they get mad at you and don't ress you lol :P.
The biggest downside to minion bombs is if you die, nova kills your team. Then they get mad at you and don't ress you lol :P.
Darth Goal
where can i find the bone minions skill?
any help welcome pls
thnx in advance
any help welcome pls
thnx in advance
Enigmatics
I think it's pretty obvious that minions are meant for easy upkeep via high level soul reaping. When you find one corpse, you have an easy 100 damage by using Death Nova on both minions and having them explode on your target.
wiseone522
anyone know where to get this skill? I've got the capture signet as well so if you know of a boss that uses this skill, please respond.
MAJIC
There is a boss right outside of the gate of kryta (pretty sure that's where, wherever I use to go on drake runs). He alternates with an ele boss and I think one other, so you may have to go out a couple times to get it. I believe you buy it from the trainer in droknars if you are that far.
KOGA202
i love thisone yah like siad before they arent good solo but in tomb of kings they can be lethal : ) actualy necro in generalis lethal therebecause of soulreaping but i have a question does anyone know how many points u need to get that extra level?
Elena
i loved this skill in dragons lair the necro part everything left a corpse and as soon my lil critters popper up they got death nova was great fun
TomD22
I have read here that one can capture this skill and death nova from a boss "just outside the gates of kryta" Sure enough, if i do the mission (with henchies) the third group of enemies in has a named boss in it. I have started this mission 12 times now, and the boss has spawned as every single profession, mostly several times, except mine (necro primary). I know that i can capture skills off've him, as i had the option of monk skills (N/Mo) one time. I'm getting very frustrated, so can anyone please confirm before i try any more that this boss does ever spawn as a necro, and that if he does he will have animate bone MINIONS to capture? Or am i perhaps attacking the wrong boss?
Thanks
Thanks
TomD22
Don't worry, i got it - 15th try lucky.
Vampiric Greenhorn
if surrounded by thes healing hands or seed will make you at full health almost instantly you will NOT die
lucien bloodrage
i see the one problem with bone minions is that if someone uses vertas aura(unlikely) your whole army will turn on you. and can someone pls tell me where the collecter bone staff is.
BBoy_Manchild
i use a minion master in pve and pvp, they are GREAT. people like to focus on the MM so the monk has a breather. with 16 death magic death nova does 105 damage, and with dark bond you dont even have to try to target them with taste of death if you are too busy evading warriors.
so it comes down to this in pvp, teams with more non-wars, i go with fiends, teams with more wars i use minions and death nova bombing, minion masters pvp do little direct damage for the first part of the battle, but if your teammates are good and can focus on a target you can get an army quickly, and its hard to survive 4-6 minions bombed
so it comes down to this in pvp, teams with more non-wars, i go with fiends, teams with more wars i use minions and death nova bombing, minion masters pvp do little direct damage for the first part of the battle, but if your teammates are good and can focus on a target you can get an army quickly, and its hard to survive 4-6 minions bombed
orexis mort
any one got a problem with chaos worms? this is the type of bone animate you need as it stops em from poping up at random!
oh and sure they may be weak and you may laugh if one trys to kill you, i personally use them to tie people up and cross it with mark of pain.
now they are hitting for more and holding a lot more guys as you hit them with a few dots, as soon as a corps appears, Well of Suffering! the minions still keeping multiple guys in that area away from alied monks and eles!
still think there rubbish? then how about when your in the middle of battle loads of bodys are falling and your sumoning like hell! if you have your soul reaping just right you gan get it so your constantly animate all three in a row.
and any good mm should have them at lv 13 any way! stopping them from just dieing as fast as they were animated.
as you can gess i use them alot. if there is an mm out there that hasnt got this skill i pitty them as its the most usfull animate skill there is!
oh and sure they may be weak and you may laugh if one trys to kill you, i personally use them to tie people up and cross it with mark of pain.
now they are hitting for more and holding a lot more guys as you hit them with a few dots, as soon as a corps appears, Well of Suffering! the minions still keeping multiple guys in that area away from alied monks and eles!
still think there rubbish? then how about when your in the middle of battle loads of bodys are falling and your sumoning like hell! if you have your soul reaping just right you gan get it so your constantly animate all three in a row.
and any good mm should have them at lv 13 any way! stopping them from just dieing as fast as they were animated.
as you can gess i use them alot. if there is an mm out there that hasnt got this skill i pitty them as its the most usfull animate skill there is!
Rajamic
On top of Barbs and Mark of Pain, Winnowing is another good way to boost damage for your undead.
Evls Pwn
blood of the master effects all minions (including allied minions)
Former Ruling
On the battery part - It works well.
The leader of our guild was a N/E in alliance battles, using Soul Reaping to fuel Fire Nukes (alot of dying in Alliance battles). Basically amounted to infinate energy.
He brought lvl0 Bone Minions just for Fuel, they die about as fast as you raised them and give you a good return on energy with high soul reaping.
The leader of our guild was a N/E in alliance battles, using Soul Reaping to fuel Fire Nukes (alot of dying in Alliance battles). Basically amounted to infinate energy.
He brought lvl0 Bone Minions just for Fuel, they die about as fast as you raised them and give you a good return on energy with high soul reaping.