A couple E/N Builds

Timewalker_Remin

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2005

Maine

Me/Mo

I Like my current E/N she uses a good mix of spells. However I was thinking of changing the Build and I wanted to get some feed back before I do. Right now my E/N is this...

Lightning Strike
Ennervating Charge
Lightning Orb
Shock
Blinding Flash
Air Attunement

Death Nova
Putrid Explosion

This build is for a 4v4 match. Its a little Evil. You cast Blinding Flash on the Warrior or the Ranger to make them miss then you can start hitting the Monk of the opposing team. Try using the Shock on monk to stop the big healing spells and to inturrpt any Rez attempt. You should manage to kill the monk faily quick. Then you can use Putrid Explosion to Blast the monk and deal extra damage to nearby foes. If one of your team mate are about to die use Death Nova on them and when they die quickly follow up with Putrid Explosion
for 200+ damage and 15 seconds of Poison. You can also use Ennervating Charge to make Warriors and ranger deal a lot less damage. I have been having a lot of success with this build.

Another Build I have is this.

Lightning Strike
Lightning Javlin
Lightning Orb
Shock
Blinding Flash
Air Attunement

Soul Leech {Elite}
Mark of Subversion

This is a Blood Build little more towards killing Monks and other Spell casters. Again the Blinding Flash is great for keeping Warriors and Rangers from dealing any damage. And the Shock is still great for interrupting a Monk. This build is a little more Defensive as well thanks to the Life Steal.

Anyways which Build should I use? and are there any sugestions?

Kana Himezaki

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

On the first build...it's completely flawed, in my book.

Conditions are removed. Condition removals are cheap and spammable. And very honestly, warriors aren't on the top of anyone's list for PvP right now and Rangers don't just attack you. They're primarily support classes, as of now in competitive PvP.

Blinding Flash is 15 energy and removed immediately. And once again, not many people attack melee in PvP.

Was this only tested in the Ascalon Arena?

Not to mention, any good group is spread out, and the death nova and putrid explosion wouldn't work too well. A warrior would not be able to avoid it, but then again...warriors aren't in competitive PvP much. The primary killers now are all casters. Meaning it's useless.

Plus, shock causes exhaustion. It's quickly spammable. Which means at the rate you're using it, you're losing a hell of a lot of energy.

I also see Soul Leech as a life stealing version of backfire. Which means it'll also probably be removed just as fast.

I'd just go a normal Air Spiker, if you want to do spike damage and be more useful.

There's nothing really special in these builds for actual PvP.

firstwave

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kana Himezaki
On the first build...it's completely flawed, in my book.

Conditions are removed. Condition removals are cheap and spammable. And very honestly, warriors aren't on the top of anyone's list for PvP right now and Rangers don't just attack you. They're primarily support classes, as of now in competitive PvP.

Blinding Flash is 15 energy and removed immediately. And once again, not many people attack melee in PvP.

Was this only tested in the Ascalon Arena?

Not to mention, any good group is spread out, and the death nova and putrid explosion wouldn't work too well. A warrior would not be able to avoid it, but then again...warriors aren't in competitive PvP much. The primary killers now are all casters. Meaning it's useless.

Plus, shock causes exhaustion. It's quickly spammable. Which means at the rate you're using it, you're losing a hell of a lot of energy.

I also see Soul Leech as a life stealing version of backfire. Which means it'll also probably be removed just as fast.

I'd just go a normal Air Spiker, if you want to do spike damage and be more useful.

There's nothing really special in these builds for actual PvP. Warriors are still good in PvP and I see a lot of them. Blinding flash is not good for 15E and it can be removed easily.

The Red Knight

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Zero Files Remaining [LaG]

R/Mo

yeah I mean what newb ranger would try and shut down a ele what idiot does that -_-

Timewalker_Remin

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2005

Maine

Me/Mo

Hmmm.... ok where to start

I may just find a different Guild Wars Forum if this keeps up. Ok so every single spell I have is bad. Now instead of just saying that all my spells are usless why not post a constructive suggestion? Those were just pure usless flames to me. Anyways I have been using Blinding Flash in Competative for quite some time. And no this is not just Ascalon Arena, as a matter of Fact I never go there. The only Arenas I use are the ones you can choose when you make a PvP Character.

Actions speak louder the words. Your right Warriors and Ranger do not go after the Ele they go after the Monk. So according to The Red Knight I should just use blinding flash if I am being attacked? No I will cast it on them to give the Monk a break from taking damage. I do understand that it is an Expensive spell which is faily good reason for replacing it, I have often thought it was too expensive. I have had match ups as well where there is no Warrior or Ranger which makes that skill near usless. What do you suggest I replace it with?

Kana Himezaki you said I should just go with a regular air spiker. I have no problem with that except it provides no support. There have been matches where being just an Air spiker does absoulutly nothing. I learned my lesson after about 6 or so of the matches where that happens. So I added Shock. Ok it give exustion "oh no! say it isn't so! It must be a bad ability because of that!!" wrong if you uses it responsivly and dont spam it it turns into your best friend. If I had a dime for every time I have used Shock to stop a Rez attempt I would be quite rich. Again though if I am flawed in stopping rez attempts and other annoying skills what would you suggest I replace it with? If you say Chain Lightning I will laugh because that causes Exustion as well. Same thing with Lightning Surge.

One thing that bugged me was that you said Soul Leech is bad becasue it acts liek Backfire and will be removed. Ok that fine I understand that. So in your saying that Soul Leech is a bad skill because Backfire is a bad skill? Last I check backfire was a great skill. Also I foudn that combining Soul Leech with Mark of Subversion can cause the Target to fail to remove the Hex and then continue to take damage. If this thinking is flawed what do you suggest I replace it with?

Sorry if I sound stern and please do not take this personally but, when I post I dont want replies like "This build is a bad build", "Those skills are useless", and "Your build is lame". I want a reply that is thought out and explains why it is not a good, not just "It can be removed" last I check EVERYTHING CAN BE REMOVED a person with Obsidian Flesh makes all my Air spells usless a Necro can remove my enchantments. Point is there is an answer to everything and just "It can be Removed" is not gonna cut it a good example would be the high casting cost of 15 for a condition that only lasts 10 seconds and is situational for Rangers and Warriors.

Anyways now that all is said and done. I see good reasoning to remove Blinding Flash but thats it. any suggestion for a replacement? I was thinking about replacing it with Conjure Lightning. One thing I would like to remind is that this is for a 4v4 match and not 8v8