Sword Axe or Hammer?

Dj Tano

Dj Tano

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Join Date: Mar 2006

What is the best in your opinion, and i want facts not only: its kewl!

BellyFlop

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lol you got to love this Thread

soon you will see why ;0)

Dj Tano

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uhm... soon?

KANE OG

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Lmao!

the sinister

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The Sinister Alliance

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I prefer axe because it´s best skills to that attribute. Sword is good looking, hammer is for some special builds.You can use axe always, but i would have over 15+ Axe mastery for total ownage.

BellyFlop

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No one told you yet?

uh give it some more time.

Excer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

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hmm well before I would argue axe is best 100%, but with the new updates, I'm gonna have to go with sword. yea, eviscerate still pwns, but gash got a dmg boost and its not an elite. that and final thrust pwns makes swords better IMO. plus, swords are better for farming . I still carry my sephis axe and sup axe gauntlets though

tuperwho

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Tenacious Knights of Doom [TKD]

I tried all 3, and I'll never go back to sword/axe from hammer. While you do lose the use of a shield, the protection that knockdowns with stonefist gauntlets (and belly smash ) give you makes up for it. The damage of hammers is high to compensate for their slower attack speed, and the knockdowns are just great for preventing your enemy from doing jack.

Arkantos

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it all depends on what kind of build your using.

Dj Tano

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hey bellyflop im still waiting for an answer from you...

Mandy Memory

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Zomgxorz! uSe AlL of TheM aT oNCe!

There isnt a best...its like asking which is better out of knights or ascalon...

stickyballs

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Cliche: There is not best, they are...just different.

Ok, they all work for different builds. Breakdown:

Axe: 6-28
Sword: 15-22
Hammer: 19-35

They end up doing similar damage w/o skills w/ attack rates incorporated.

Axe is famed for w/ IWAY. W/o Eviscerate though, Factions will have to redeem it. Axe has a few cool looking skins, including the cliched Chaos Axe. Axes have become more popular over-time and are quite popular.

Swords are usually used w/ farming builds and ordinary PvE molds. They have cool-looking skins and my favorites (i.e. Crystallines, Fellblades, etc.). They also have the famous combo: Sever, Gash, Thrust. Gash became better w/ update and making Thrust any better they would have to make it an elite possibly. Swords have Final Thrust, which is like an elite, and gives you free space for an elite from Tactics. It's one Elite is weaksauce though. Boo Hundred Blades!

Hammers are looked down upon in PvE. They have cool skins though (Mursaat, Twin, etc.). They are commonly used in KD/Gale/Aftershock builds for *ORGANIZED* PvP. They don't do much in PvE though. They received a heavy Gale nerf though and aren't as popular as they were a few weeks ago.

My advice? Try swords and axes for PvE and see what you like best. Hammers can go into consideration if you do PvP also.

boxterduke

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Join Date: Jun 2005

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I use mostly swords since I like them more.
I use swords in every other game anyway

I use axes sometimes (although lots of people use axe, it has better skills).

Hammers are too slow for my taste but they rock in PvP.

Dj Tano

Dj Tano

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Join Date: Mar 2006

hmm very nice post stickyballs.

since i am more into pve i am a swordsman at the moment, but i really wanted to change to hammer because i want to deal alot of damage.

why do you think hammer is not good in pve?

quickmonty

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

Okay .... I'll give you my standard answer.

Try all three and see which one you like best, because there is no *best*. They all have good and bad points.

Anarki

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Almost Famous

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I vote for axes. They have highest DPS and that's cool in my opinion. It will even get bleeding in Factions
However, I'm prolly gonna switch to swords once Faction is out. If you made a sword warrior in preview you'd know what I'm talking about
Boy the damage, it got paired up with axe.

Dj Tano

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ok so i tried out a hammer ive found in an earlier mission just to see how it is... and i didnt like it. it costs too much energy to do stuff, and you dont do like cool tricks, you just deal more damage with skills.

now im back to sword again, so now the question is:

IS BETTER SWORD OR AXE?!?

Mandy Memory

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Axe has eviscerate and executioners...which is best for pvp. (hammer is probably tied...)

Sword is good for farming or pve...but of course you could use a wand in pve...or no weapon at all and kill everything with gladiators defence. Pve takes no effort...therefore there is no best weapon in pve.

$hade.

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I like using Sword because it's attack speed is faster.

Str0b0

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Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

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I'd say sword based simply on the fact that its damage, while not as high as axe and hammer on the upper end, is more predictable because of the relatively narrow range between the minimum and maximum values. It's just a good middle of the road choice that will give more consistent damage. You won't get as many spectacular criticals as say a hammer or an axe hitting for max damage on a critical hit but you will generally come out ahead if the weapon hits on the lower end of the damage scale, particularly versus axes. I also think that you would benefit more from sword over hammer because of the addition of any mods on your shield. Sure the hammer does more damage but at the expense of additional shield mods and attack speed. I would be willing to bet that over an extended period the damage output for a sword is greater than a hammer just because of the attack speed difference.

Cottage Pie

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Join Date: Nov 2005

Birmingham, England

Taking Aegis

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I have always used a sword warrior. why? because tactics and swordsmanship go hand in hand, very reliable and powerful, many excellent defensive skills and ripostes will pulp any melee attackers you face or cause them to miss, miss, miss.


Since Factions got release, I am even MORE swords, dragon slash is simply amazing, a true elite for the sword at last...as Hundred blades (see sun and moon slash in factions, only andren based) was only ever an elite to stop it being used with IW, and consequently wasn't very good. and skull crack..i dislike.

There is no best Imo, it all depends...A proper sword/tactics warrior will beat a axe warrior and a hammer warrior, a hammer warrior will tourture casters with endless knockdowns/interupts and collosal damage, a frenzied axe warrior will impale anyone not able to defend themselves.


I tried all 3 a year back, and went sword, you should test them all out too, it's a personal choice as much as anything

Mandy Memory

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Quote:
Originally Posted by $hade.
I like using Sword because it's attack speed is faster.
Only faster than hammer, wand/staff, and bow. Its the same as axes.

XX Deathwish Warrior XX

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by $hade.
I like using Sword because it's attack speed is faster.
attack speed of sword = axe speed

Winterclaw

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Join Date: May 2005

Florida

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Swordchucks rock! And roll! All night long.

Save up on your collector items and carry one of each. Aside from that it's largely personal preference. Hammers have a few minor drawbacks to take into consideration, but they are all viable.

shakc

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2006

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Depends on PvP or PvE..
In PvP axe and hammer is used, but in PvE, you'll have to try all 3. If you like the Fantasy or Adventure kinda feel, I would use sword. Sword's also good for players in the early stages cuz of the Sever Artery+Gash combo, but as you get to the later stages where you get Elite Skills, the axe & hammer shine though...
Swords became a lot better (Especially in farming) with the recent buffs to riposte and deadly riposte.

If you're totally depending on adrenaline, I would suggest that you use the axe.

The hammer hits the most damage out of the 3, but it's a bit slow and you can't use a shield anymore, but there's still nice big-damage combos lol.
Devastating Hammer, Crushing Blow, and Heavy Blow (Which requires weakness on target which is given by Devastating Hammer) with Irresistible Blow and Mighty Blow put into the chain however it works for you.

Phaern Majes

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I went through all the missions with a hammer. Worked quite nicely for me. I didn't really try any of the others because they cost more :P You can pick up a good hammer cheap.

Mando

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Scotland

Hells Angelz

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I use all 3
sword for pve though missions etc
axe for solo'ing the mountain trolls or ettins (cyclone axe and live vig and vig spirit=pwnage)
hammer for pvp

stickyballs

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American Servers

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Swords swings every 1.33 seconds.
Axes swings every 1.33 seconds.
Hammers swing every 1.75 seconds.
Daggers strike every 1.25 seconds.

The latter two are two-handed though.

Out of the two, I prefer swords. I like axes because they have some nice skills, but one of the main reasons I used it: Eviscerate. W/ the 2 extra adrenaline nerf, I've gone back to my old sword combo. Final Thrust is just great and it is a non-elite, leaving room for an elite. High adrenaline, but it deals double damage when you would want to finish off an opponent: at below 50% health. Axes are still great though and we'll see how it plays out w/ all the Factions skills and elites.

Why aren't hammers dominant in PvE? KD, etc. isn't as esssential in taking down one wimpy opponent, whereas a human player is more formidable.

quickmonty

quickmonty

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Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by $hade.
I like using Sword because it's attack speed is faster.
Faster than what? Unless I'm terribly misinformed, sword and axe have the same attack speed.