I was wondering if any of you all have seen a Bar Chart showing the newer video cards and how they stack up to the older ones....
I am talking about the X1900's, 7900's, 7600's, and how they measure up to vid cards as old as 9800Pro's or 5900's and up to the X1800's, and 7800's.
Just curious...trying to stay informed...
New Video Cards
Old Dood
mathewthegreat
Cant seem to find any benchmarks showing such old cards (fx series) with the newer ones, but i found this, which shows alot of the cards you mentioned:
http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/11/...ia/page12.html
The newer cards do have alot more pipelines though!
http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/11/...ia/page12.html
The newer cards do have alot more pipelines though!
Old Dood
Thanks....I found similar benchmarks too. I was mostly interested in the 7600GT OC 256Mb PCIe card. It was going for $249.00 at CompUSA this weekend. Seemed a decent card. My Friend bought one. I am "kinda" looking for an upgrade to my X800XL PCIe 256Mb card.
So I was curious to see how my card faired with these newer ones.
So I was curious to see how my card faired with these newer ones.
Serafita Kayin
7600 and x800XL are gonna be tight. If you want a real upgrade, got for an x1800 GTO or something similar. If you sit tight, the x1900GTO will be out for about the same price...
Ghozer
My Friends just bought an x1900XTX - 48pipes o_0 -- he can run "TES Oblivian", al Ultra high, and still pull 50+ FPS in 1280x1024 o_0
Old Dood
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Originally Posted by Serafita Kayin
7600 and x800XL are gonna be tight. If you want a real upgrade, got for an x1800 GTO or something similar. If you sit tight, the x1900GTO will be out for about the same price...
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I am not sold on the GTO line at all. I still think my X800XL is better then the X800GTO. Isn't the X1800GTO only 12 pipes?
Luchaire
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... x1900XTX - 48pipes ...
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Serafita Kayin
Can't just go by pipes, look at architecture.
And, a lot of GTOs are unlockable. Remember that.
And, a lot of GTOs are unlockable. Remember that.
mathewthegreat
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My Friends just bought an x1900XTX - 48pipes o_0 -- he can run "TES Oblivian", al Ultra high, and still pull 50+ FPS in 1280x1024 o_0
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mathewthegreat
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOO
http://www.beyond3d.com/reviews/ati/r580/index.php?p=16
i think i want to cry *sob*
WHAT AN ANIMAL!
"it comes in pints?" "im getting one!"
http://www.beyond3d.com/reviews/ati/r580/index.php?p=16
i think i want to cry *sob*
WHAT AN ANIMAL!
"it comes in pints?" "im getting one!"
Ghozer
This is the card my Friend has just bought....
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...uct_uid=101908
-- For thoes who dont want to click the link....
Specs:
* 650MHz ATI Radeon R580 Core (X1900)
* 1550MHz GDDR3 Extreme performance memory
* 384 million transistors on 90nm fabrication process
* 48 pixel shader processors <---- Can you say "OH EM EFF GEE"?? o_0
* 8 vertex shader processors
* 256-bit 8-channel GDDR3/GDDR4 memory interface
* Dynamic Voltage and Clock Speed Control
* 512-bit internal ring bus for memory reads
* Programmable intelligent arbitration logic
* Fully associative texture, color, and Z/stencil cache designs
* Hierarchical Z-buffer with Early Z test
* Lossless Z Compression (up to 48:1)
* Fast Z-Buffer Clear
* Z/stencil cache optimized for real-time shadow rendering
* Optimized for performance at high display resolutions, including widescreen HDTV resolutions
* Crossfire compatible - Master Edition ATI X1900 card required!
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...uct_uid=101908
-- For thoes who dont want to click the link....
Specs:
* 650MHz ATI Radeon R580 Core (X1900)
* 1550MHz GDDR3 Extreme performance memory
* 384 million transistors on 90nm fabrication process
* 48 pixel shader processors <---- Can you say "OH EM EFF GEE"?? o_0
* 8 vertex shader processors
* 256-bit 8-channel GDDR3/GDDR4 memory interface
* Dynamic Voltage and Clock Speed Control
* 512-bit internal ring bus for memory reads
* Programmable intelligent arbitration logic
* Fully associative texture, color, and Z/stencil cache designs
* Hierarchical Z-buffer with Early Z test
* Lossless Z Compression (up to 48:1)
* Fast Z-Buffer Clear
* Z/stencil cache optimized for real-time shadow rendering
* Optimized for performance at high display resolutions, including widescreen HDTV resolutions
* Crossfire compatible - Master Edition ATI X1900 card required!
Old Dood
Well that is over $600.00 here in the States. Just way too expensive. Give it a few months and that card will drop to $400.00 then $300.00. Of course there will be something else that is even bigger and better...but so what....always buy a card a few Levels of Techs below the best.
twangansta
7600GT is a pretty good card for it's cost, $200 and the same performance as the $350 ATI x1800 series cards.
Blade Rez
7800gs is decent. I have a 7800gt when they still made them 
, of course XFX pulls its crap with a 4pin molex instead of a 6 pin PCI-E connector, and now my card is "underpowered." My advice is just pull for some more money and pick up an OEM Sapphire x1800xt. scores around the 7-8k in 3dmark05 at 260$ish mark.
, of course XFX pulls its crap with a 4pin molex instead of a 6 pin PCI-E connector, and now my card is "underpowered." My advice is just pull for some more money and pick up an OEM Sapphire x1800xt. scores around the 7-8k in 3dmark05 at 260$ish mark.
OneArmedScissor
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Thanks....I found similar benchmarks too. I was mostly interested in the 7600GT OC 256Mb PCIe card. It was going for $249.00 at CompUSA this weekend. Seemed a decent card. My Friend bought one. I am "kinda" looking for an upgrade to my X800XL PCIe 256Mb card.
So I was curious to see how my card faired with these newer ones. |
The performance difference between the 7600 and 6800GS isn't worth an extra $100. Plus, you can always overclock the card using RivaTuner.
Xenrath
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Originally Posted by Old Dood
Well that is over $600.00 here in the States. Just way too expensive. Give it a few months and that card will drop to $400.00 then $300.00. Of course there will be something else that is even bigger and better...but so what....always buy a card a few Levels of Techs below the best.
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Being an early adopter is probably the worst thing to do unless you have money to burn, and in 6-12 months the prices will have plumetted, given ATI/nVidia's insane release-new-uber-power-card-every-few-months policy...Also the pace of game development simply does not match the hardware development; most games still use DirectX 8, they're just now starting to take up DX9, and in a few months from now they will not be any better really..
kvndoom
When all else fails, there's the Tech Report:
http://techreport.com/reviews/2006q1...0/index.x?pg=1
Good comparisons with the 7600GT and 6800GS and X1800XL and X1800GTO. Oh, all these model numbers are giving me a headache.
http://techreport.com/reviews/2006q1...0/index.x?pg=1
Good comparisons with the 7600GT and 6800GS and X1800XL and X1800GTO. Oh, all these model numbers are giving me a headache.
OneArmedScissor
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Your own advice is pretty much the best here when it comes to buying
Being an early adopter is probably the worst thing to do unless you have money to burn, and in 6-12 months the prices will have plumetted, given ATI/nVidia's insane release-new-uber-power-card-every-few-months policy...Also the pace of game development simply does not match the hardware development; most games still use DirectX 8, they're just now starting to take up DX9, and in a few months from now they will not be any better really.. |
Sorry, but this is simply wrong. Take a look at the new Oblivion game. It's man handling 7800s, etc.
Xenrath
I was speaking generally 
Besides which, just because something struggles with top hardware doesn't necessarily mean it's a great game.. it might just have a poorly coded graphics engine...
Besides which, just because something struggles with top hardware doesn't necessarily mean it's a great game.. it might just have a poorly coded graphics engine...
OneArmedScissor
Well... we are talking about the progression and advancements in video games and video cards.
That being said, I can't think of a game that has recently came out that does not use/support DX9.
I think the quality of the game play should not be considered in this as it is irrelavant and subjective.
Regardless, the GPU industry (ATI and Nvidia) and the video game industry are reliant on each other. Symbiotic bond maybe???
That being said, I can't think of a game that has recently came out that does not use/support DX9.
I think the quality of the game play should not be considered in this as it is irrelavant and subjective.
Regardless, the GPU industry (ATI and Nvidia) and the video game industry are reliant on each other. Symbiotic bond maybe???
Alias_X
The 7900GT is like a 7800GTX.
If I were you, I wouldn't get the 7600, instead I would pay $300 for an eVga 7900GT.
If I were you, I wouldn't get the 7600, instead I would pay $300 for an eVga 7900GT.
Loviatar
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Well... we are talking about the progression and advancements in video games and video cards.
That being said, I can't think of a game that has recently came out that does not use/support DX9. |
a top card is not needed for dx9 any more
swaaye
The FX cards are awful, especially for newer games. They are not designed for intensive pixel shading, but they will run older games fine. Do not buy one at any price today, however.
Of what's out now I'd get a 7900GT or X1900XT for a high end choice. Mid range, the 7600GT is unbeatable. AGP people only have the 7800GS as a good high end choice with the old 6600GT being a good mid/low option too. Stay away from X1600 cuz NV's equiv 7600GT will beat it handily, and the X850 on down cards can't do Shader Model 3 which will surely become more important.
Of what's out now I'd get a 7900GT or X1900XT for a high end choice. Mid range, the 7600GT is unbeatable. AGP people only have the 7800GS as a good high end choice with the old 6600GT being a good mid/low option too. Stay away from X1600 cuz NV's equiv 7600GT will beat it handily, and the X850 on down cards can't do Shader Model 3 which will surely become more important.
Alias_X
At above poster
The 7600 IS beatable. 7900GT for $50 more you get that much more performance. HELL, the 7900GT costs teh same as the 7800GT, but it is the equivalent of a 7800GTX!!!
The 7600 IS beatable. 7900GT for $50 more you get that much more performance. HELL, the 7900GT costs teh same as the 7800GT, but it is the equivalent of a 7800GTX!!!
Old Dood
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At above poster
The 7600 IS beatable. 7900GT for $50 more you get that much more performance. HELL, the 7900GT costs teh same as the 7800GT, but it is the equivalent of a 7800GTX!!! |