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Ryphen

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Over the hills...

Sanctu Maleficus [SM]

28 Mar 2006 at 04:51 - 1

Hey guys... First let me start off. This is my first MMO since UO, so it's been a few years. Would of been playin' more but my P2 400MHz just wasn't cuttin' it. So I just bought a new PC. Anyways. I bought Guild Wars to hold me over until Vanguard comes out.

I've heard W/Mo is the best way to go but I know it's the most popular... I'm thinkin' about a Ranger but I've heard they're hard to start out with. I want somethin' that's not flooded but I'm not into the whole spell casting classes. I'll probably back up my Ranger w/ a Necro Sec. Pro. But I don't know. I know there's going to be tons of every class.

I'm mainly going to be playing with a group of friends, they just picked up the game too, and probably won't group with randoms alot and none of them are Rangers. So what would you guys reccommend? Just act like this is my First MMO.

(Sorry, I know this is a stupid question but I searched the forums and didn't come up with anything really detailed or anything that really fits my circumstances...)

Also, once I get the game up and running (Had to RMA Mobo) I'd really appreciate it if someone has the patience to meet up with me in-game and kinda show me that basics. Maybe run through a quest or two. PM me if you'd help a noob out.

storm of daeth

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

somewhere

Zealots Of Abaddon [ZOA]

W/

28 Mar 2006 at 04:53 - 2

well if your gonna go ranger i would suggest
secondary monk for healing
secondary mesmer incase you wanna trap ever
secondary ele for extra spells

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

28 Mar 2006 at 04:58 - 3

Rangers aren't any harder to start with than any other class. They're very versatile, and useful in lots of situations.

Tsunami Rain

mmmmmmmm pie.

Join Date: Aug 2005

Honolulu, Hawaii

Favorable Winds [Gust]

Mo/

28 Mar 2006 at 05:09 - 4

Ranger/Monk -- The healing really helps.
Ranger/Mesmer -- My first character was a Fragility Ranger (it was awesome).
Ranger/Elementalist -- Sit back, pin down, and nuke them

Once you leave the newbie area (you'll know when it happens). I'll be more than glad to help you out on a couple missions (if you still need to) (that is, unless I'm in the middle of something important in which case you'll have to wait). IGN: Tsunami Rain

Sereng Amaranth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Amazon Basin [AB]

28 Mar 2006 at 06:25 - 5

There are lots of helpful people here...and a few trolls.

But my first character was Ran/Mo. Great class to start with if you don't want to do a paladin build. WaMos get all the hatred, lol.

Fungus Amongus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare] | [Rare] Alliance

28 Mar 2006 at 06:43 - 6

Play what feels best for you. Any combination has its strengths and weaknesses. After you progress a little farther you might change your mind. Don't worry you can always start over or change later on (much later).

I first enjoyed R/Me until late in the game, but didn't use much of the Mesmer skills. I was new then so I might use more of the Mesmer skills early in the game if I were to create a new R/Me. Anyway, I deleted her to make a R/N. I had a blast with R/N for the first half of the PvE storyline, then stuck to almost all Ranger skills.

Bottom line:
You can do almost anything you want as long as you enjoy it. The more fun you have, the better you will likely be.

Ryphen

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Over the hills...

Sanctu Maleficus [SM]

28 Mar 2006 at 07:25 - 7

I'll probably like the Healing best. R/Mo sounds pretty good. I don't know. I'll dick around a bit and see what I like. I guess before I get too far into the game I could always start over...

Tsunami, if you've got XFire add me; ighxsti. I should be playin' by the end of this week. Is there like a training/tutorial type thing in the 'newbie area'?

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

28 Mar 2006 at 07:39 - 8

There are a number of quests that get you familiar with the game. They also give you a chance to try out several secondary classes before you settle on one.

I can't give you many suggestions on ranger because it an necro are two classes that don't interest me.

However R/mo's do have a little better energy than a W/mo (but no + energy artifact) so if you like healing a little it'll probably be better for you that way.

I don't know what other help you could need but if you have a question, you can whisper me ingame.

LordMahal

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Germany

R/Mo

28 Mar 2006 at 08:17 - 9

Ive played all classes, in all combos, and must say that I have the most fun with my ranger. Ive been all the combos of ranger... ranger monk, elem, necro etc. It really depends on what you intend to do. Best thing is to hang out in pre,(the tutorial part) and try out the secondary classes. Just remember that the secondary you choose can be changed later, so its not forever. I found ranger elementalist to be hard to use early on, ranger monk provided me with healing that I needed, necro is good but not so useful all the time, warrior Id not recommend as a second pro, and mesmer is nice as I like to interupt all the time. Also do some searching on bow types, and what you will need. Dont be suckered by green weapons and items, they just arent worth it. Oh... Sundering modifications are worthless...

Ryphen

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Over the hills...

Sanctu Maleficus [SM]

28 Mar 2006 at 08:57 - 10

Yea... R/Mo sounds pretty good. I'll want the healing.

What are some good bows to start out with? I imagine they give you a bow to start out with, but I'm not sure.

LordMahal

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Germany

R/Mo

28 Mar 2006 at 10:31 - 11

Of course you have a starter bow... and you dont need any others in the tutorial stages. Once you get into the actual game, post searing, you will have to get a good bow. There are weapon collectors, people who trade a weapon for items and some gold. Most times this is the cheapest way to go. Max damage on a bow... 15-28 is what you want, with some sort of damage modifier like 15% more damage when you have more than 50% health or even some have 15% more always. You can also customize your bow to add 20% to the damage. Bow types range from Horn Bow (slow fire/more damage) short (fast fire short range), long/storm (longest range decent fire time) and composite (mid range bow for interupting). I left a few out but those are you main ones. Bows have different designs, Mursaat horn or dragon horn, that will make them cost more. Bows like this are not sold from a collector, so you must buy them from a person or find them while fighting. All of this can be searched on this site or guildwiki. A good long bow might run you 15k or more, while a storm will cost you over 100k. Again it depends alot on your style of fighting. An interupter wont use a horn bow, takes too long etc.

Tsunami Rain

mmmmmmmm pie.

Join Date: Aug 2005

Honolulu, Hawaii

Favorable Winds [Gust]

Mo/

28 Mar 2006 at 11:01 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryphen

I'll probably like the Healing best. R/Mo sounds pretty good. I don't know. I'll dick around a bit and see what I like. I guess before I get too far into the game I could always start over...

Tsunami, if you've got XFire add me; ighxsti. I should be playin' by the end of this week. Is there like a training/tutorial type thing in the 'newbie area'?

added. The newbie area is called PreSear. Lets just leave it at that. I wouldnt want to give out free spoilers. Once you choose the option to "leave everything behind" You'll be in what is called Postsear. When you get to post sear, message me.

LightningHell

(????????????)???

Join Date: Aug 2005

Hong Kong

Guildless

Mo/

28 Mar 2006 at 11:09 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryphen

This is my first MMO since UO...Just act like this is my First MMO.

Guild Wars isn't a MMO

Ranger is very versatile, yes.

If you go Monk secondary, I'd say try Smiting, but I wouldn't know since I don't use Ranger much.

That's my suggestion, since you seem to be bent on R/Mo, and the others have taken everything I've got to say

Lord Cooper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Black Death Knights

E/

28 Mar 2006 at 11:30 - 14

my IGN is Lord Cooper. add me to your friends list and send me a message if you see me in game and ill come say hello and help u thru some missions.. ive got a character in pre-searing (what tsunami rain referred to as "the newbie area") that i just started so i can meet you there

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

28 Mar 2006 at 12:08 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryphen

if you'd help a noob out.

First of all, 'noob' doesn't mean exactly the same as 'newbie' any more - it now means basically 'asshole', so 'newbie' is probably the word you wanted...

Anyway, any combination of classes is completely viable, and are all capable both of soloing and grouping. Don't let anyone tell you different. If you want an easy time, I'd however suggest you be at least part monk, it'll make most parts of the PvE much easier.
But really, just be what interests you the most.

Peewee

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

London, England

I Uprising I [RAGE]

R/

28 Mar 2006 at 12:23 - 16

What everyoudo,dont go wammo (W/Mo) They are the mist hated combination if classes of any proffesion, and expereinced players will look upon you with disgust.

In fact, i woudnt go warrior at all. Rangers are a really satifying class to play, loads of stuff u can do with them, really diverse inthings u can do, which is also their biggest weakness. Many rangers try to do too much at once, and as a result often suck. You will soon learn how to be an effective ranger. Becuase skills in the ranger line dont link as obviously as warrior or spell casters skills do its often bewildering to make ranger builds. But once you find a good build, you can interupt, deal good dmg, spread conditions, and help out the team far better than any wammo could.

All in all, do not listen to those that tell you wammo is the best, they just arnt. To start off with, i dont know, but i would much rather unlock skills in other proffesions than be called a n00b, and you wil be if you go wammo, daily. So, first bit of GW advise, look upon Wammos with pity. If you need to run droknars, what Wammos are for, you can change ur secondary at a leter date, but u may find that pvp is ur bag, in which wammos are about as useful as a chocolate tea pot.

LightningHell

(????????????)???

Join Date: Aug 2005

Hong Kong

Guildless

Mo/

28 Mar 2006 at 13:58 - 17

Call us anytime, we'd help. IGN is usually on the brown strip on the left.

Yanman.be

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

[ROSE]

A/

28 Mar 2006 at 14:03 - 18

For Q&A live, 1 place, 1 man: Frahma Yanman! ( my IGN )

I'll also add you to Xfire

and Rangers are cool! I still believe all missions in the game can be done with a full party of rangers ( also, insert any class )

Ryphen

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Over the hills...

Sanctu Maleficus [SM]

28 Mar 2006 at 20:45 - 19

Thanks for the help guys. I should be playin' by tomorrow night... (I've had horrible luck with NewEgg and my new PC). I'll give everyone a shout.

IGN = In-Game Name...? Correct? (Just makin' sure we're all on the same page.

)

Tsunami Rain

mmmmmmmm pie.

Join Date: Aug 2005

Honolulu, Hawaii

Favorable Winds [Gust]

Mo/

28 Mar 2006 at 21:44 - 20

IGN=In Game Name (correct).

Ryphen

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Over the hills...

Sanctu Maleficus [SM]

29 Mar 2006 at 00:32 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by LightningHell

Guild Wars isn't a MMO

What do you mean by that?

Accepted everybody's invites on XFire... I'll hit ya up sometime tomorrow Tsunami...

EDIT: I know what you meant about the not MMO thing... It basically is it's just all instanced...

Sereng Amaranth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Amazon Basin [AB]

29 Mar 2006 at 04:24 - 22

Here's a tip. You can't stack preparations such as Apply Poison and Ignite Arrows. But you can stack one of them with the Monk skill Judge's Insight. Check this...Ignite Arrows, Judge's Insight, then shoot with the Elite skill Poison Arrow.

onehyak

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

4 continents and counting for 2006

Rejectz (REZZ)

29 Mar 2006 at 08:33 - 23

First off, Welcome. I agree with some of the other posts. I've played all the character types(but Mesmer primary) and I have so much fun with my ranger. You have the widest variety with them it seems to me. I've been nodding my head as i have been reading through the posts. Alot of good info. Some key points i've noticed and completely agree with.

1. Dont get suckered into buying a green bow just for looks. Find one that suits your current skill set and use that one. i.e. Inturrupt, trapping(though i use a staff mostly), or pet barrage.

2. take the time in Pre-searing to explore different ways to play the character and develop your playstyle.

3. Ignore the taunts from ignorant players who say rangers aren't usefull. I ALWAYS bring a ranger wherever i go. And a swift kick to the Wammo's who complain.

That's about it. By the way My IGN is Vita Three Point Oh, if you have questions drop by and ask.

Tsunami Rain

mmmmmmmm pie.

Join Date: Aug 2005

Honolulu, Hawaii

Favorable Winds [Gust]

Mo/

29 Mar 2006 at 09:51 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryphen

What do you mean by that?

Accepted everybody's invites on XFire... I'll hit ya up sometime tomorrow Tsunami...

EDIT: I know what you meant about the not MMO thing... It basically is it's just all instanced...

Just note I'll be out till about 2:00P.M. Hawaii time (its 11:52 A.M. my time CURRENTLY).

Ryphen

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Over the hills...

Sanctu Maleficus [SM]

29 Mar 2006 at 23:07 - 25

What's a good bow for pre-sear? Will I need anything other than the starter bow?

and what's a good bow for post-sear? From what I've heard if you do all the quests and chill in pre-sear for a while you'll leave around lvl 8 or 9... Which I plan to do. So what's a good bow for that level range?

Tsunami Rain

mmmmmmmm pie.

Join Date: Aug 2005

Honolulu, Hawaii

Favorable Winds [Gust]

Mo/

29 Mar 2006 at 23:24 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryphen

What's a good bow for pre-sear? Will I need anything other than the starter bow?

and what's a good bow for post-sear? From what I've heard if you do all the quests and chill in pre-sear for a while you'll leave around lvl 8 or 9... Which I plan to do. So what's a good bow for that level range?

Ascalon bow. Or whatever nice bow drop you can find (purple or blue).

I suggest you read this: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?t=104182