Ettin Farming with Necromancet [SOLO]?
Auron-X
Yeah I hear that Ettins have really good drops as a guildie of mine was farming in North Kryta Province (not with a Necromancer unfortunately, nor did she know any builds for the Necro)and got some superior rune drops (and prob. some other nice stuff xD). Yeah is there a Necromancer build to this, that is if it's possible? Yeah, if so could anyone post/link me to one? Thanks.
Archaic Nightmare
I have used an MM to farm there with great ease - something along the lines of N/R:
Fiends - Horror - Blood of the Master - Verata's Sacrifice - Deathly Swarm - Troll Ungruent - Healing Spring - Winnowing.
But more or less any MM build will be a breeze through that area.
Fiends - Horror - Blood of the Master - Verata's Sacrifice - Deathly Swarm - Troll Ungruent - Healing Spring - Winnowing.
But more or less any MM build will be a breeze through that area.
tigernz
Your bog standard minion master shreds through Ettins. Make sure you bring a damage spell or two to help out with the first corpses and you're good to go.
I'm not posting a build as there are a ton posted already - search is your friend
I'm not posting a build as there are a ton posted already - search is your friend
MelechRic
Leave from Beetletun and look for a Lynx. Kill it and you're in business. If you can't find those then go find mergoyles and put something like Rotting Flesh + Life Siphon on them. Reapply life siphon once more. Do not wand them because you will lose energy due to spirit shackles. Make fiends and let them finish off the mergoyle mob.
Here's my build:
Drok's Scar armor (except for feet which have Bloodstained Boots)
Death Scar + Sup Rune of Death Magic
Minor Runes for Blood and Soul Reaping
Sup Vigor if you have it.. otherwise whatever you can afford.
20% Recharge Death Wand from Collector
20/20% Casting/Recharge offhand from Collector
10 Soul Reaping
10 Blood
16 Death
Offering of Blood {E}
Life Siphon
Rotting Flesh
Verata's Sacrifice
Animate Fiend
Animate Horror
Blood of the Master
Taste of Death
Use Taste of Death only when you get into trouble with sacrificing which won't be that often.
You will roll through this area.
Here's my build:
Drok's Scar armor (except for feet which have Bloodstained Boots)
Death Scar + Sup Rune of Death Magic
Minor Runes for Blood and Soul Reaping
Sup Vigor if you have it.. otherwise whatever you can afford.
20% Recharge Death Wand from Collector
20/20% Casting/Recharge offhand from Collector
10 Soul Reaping
10 Blood
16 Death
Offering of Blood {E}
Life Siphon
Rotting Flesh
Verata's Sacrifice
Animate Fiend
Animate Horror
Blood of the Master
Taste of Death
Use Taste of Death only when you get into trouble with sacrificing which won't be that often.
You will roll through this area.
sh4ft3d
55 necros can easily run through this place. Just remember about the shatter enchants from the mesmer tengu and you will be fine.
MelechRic
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55 necros can easily run through this place. Just remember about the shatter enchants from the mesmer tengu and you will be fine.
It's actually Phantasm and Cry of Frustration that you gotta be on the lookout for. If they nail you with Phantasm then stop your Breeze with Cry of Frustratioin you're done.
lifesux006
You can run past the tengu by going around hugging the wall and TRYINGto avoid the undead, if you cant just run and make sure u get as far away from those grasp ghouls, dont even stop. (this is if ur a 55 necro) When u get there pass the bogs right into the ettins, EASY! then enjoy ur drops (from a migor vigor to a sup absorb)
Auron-X
Alright then thanks, I might just try that build that Melech posted, though there goes my Death Nova/Taste of Death combo (Taste of Death is still there but y'know =P xP). with my usual MM =P And as for the 55hp necro, i'm not really too keen on making them just yet lol (not like they're alot of money except for teh armour which I already have, but it'd have to make separate sets for it wouldn't I? (with the sup. runes and all))
lambda the great
You could try the FoW 55 build.
B Ephekt
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Originally Posted by Auron-X
(not like they're alot of money except for teh armour which I already have, but it'd have to make separate sets for it wouldn't I? (with the sup. runes and all))
You can use Ascalon armor for a 55 build if you want to; AL doesn't matter at all. Although I would really suggest getting Lion's Arch scars for the energy and the cheap price.
Also, my minions own ettins.
Also, my minions own ettins.
Auron-X
^But doesn't less Armour equal more damage anyway? lol. And i'm not too keen on trying a 55hp necro. as I said before (I kinda am, since you can solo farm some nice places easily) since it'd be annoying keeping up all those enchantments and stuff. And if you happen to cross by an enemy Necromancer with Vampiric Touch, your gone lol.
Yeah I have yet to actually try and farm Ettins solo (is it possible to kill them with just Deathly Swarm - Rotting Flesh - Life Siphon? Well with a combination of only two of them, most Ettins I see are in mobs of two or more xP).
Yeah I have yet to actually try and farm Ettins solo (is it possible to kill them with just Deathly Swarm - Rotting Flesh - Life Siphon? Well with a combination of only two of them, most Ettins I see are in mobs of two or more xP).
Cirian
I think the minion master is fastest - you can lay waste to the whole area so quickly 
I quite like Aura of the Lich + Blood Renewal for dealing with sacrifice management of Verata's Sacrifice and Blood of the Master
I quite like Aura of the Lich + Blood Renewal for dealing with sacrifice management of Verata's Sacrifice and Blood of the Master
sh4ft3d
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Originally Posted by MelechRic
It's actually Phantasm and Cry of Frustration that you gotta be on the lookout for. If they nail you with Phantasm then stop your Breeze with Cry of Frustratioin you're done.
Try using guardian or shadow of fear for them to interrupt before you use healing breeze. Takes up more skill slots, but keeps you alive.
B Ephekt
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Cirian
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Originally Posted by B Ephekt
B Ephekt
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Originally Posted by Cirian
It matters if you let PS drop for a second. Being able to take that 1 or 2 hits without it is nice, and it WILL happen every so often.
I can't think of a single place worth farming where the monsters can't easily do enough damage to kill you in one hit, or where the hits don't quickly stack up. At 55hp, Droks armor vs. Ascalon or even presear armor isn't going to make a bit of difference. And you're going to die 9 times out of 10 if prot goes down, buying high AL armor to counter that fluke (if you're even a 1/2 way decent 55 this won't happen) is ridiculous.
blakecraw
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Originally Posted by B Ephekt
I can't think of a single place worth farming where the monsters can't easily do enough damage to kill you in one hit, or where the hits don't quickly stack up.
by the ettins if u run back and forth the mergoyles can't kill u w/o prot up, since they do 2- about 6 dmg (which isn't much of an advantage, except that it maybe saves u two prot castings per run lol). also, in uw u can take a couple hits from darknesses w/o prot i believe :P
as an ss it takes about 20 seconds to kill a group of ettins, w/ a 6 second start up time after zoning (just enchantments, no corpse making needed). i haven't tried mm so i dunno how fast that is, the only complaint i have about 55 ss for ettins is killing the wilds which takes a little longer than running through em, but once u get the hang of it it's 100% success gettin by em.
as an ss it takes about 20 seconds to kill a group of ettins, w/ a 6 second start up time after zoning (just enchantments, no corpse making needed). i haven't tried mm so i dunno how fast that is, the only complaint i have about 55 ss for ettins is killing the wilds which takes a little longer than running through em, but once u get the hang of it it's 100% success gettin by em.
Hockster
With the new Luxon and Kurzik settlements, you can leave from LA and not have any Tengu to worry about anymore.
Auron-X
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B Ephekt
I agree that scars are the way to go for a 55 necro, my point was that you don't need Drok's scars, or any high AL armor for that matter, to do it. Save yourself some money and grab scars from LA, they give the same energy bonuses but cost a good bit less. Of course this is only if you're actually worried about spending money. 
Both my monk and necro have a set of LA scars/tats they use for 55ing.
Both my monk and necro have a set of LA scars/tats they use for 55ing.
Francis Crawford
I took my Level 14 MM out to solo ettins in his AL 30 armor and just a Minor Death, and it didn't work. The minons insisted on stopping to kill every self-healing Spiny Aloe along the way, and hence I never built up enough momentum. Not having Verata's Sacrifice made it hard to keep them alive after too much time was wasted ...
What did I do wrong? (Yeah, it was just a dry run, given the low level -- but that's the point.)
What did I do wrong? (Yeah, it was just a dry run, given the low level -- but that's the point.)
bobrath
Is your death otherwise maxed? (ie 12 + 1 + 1)
VS is probably your biggest lack. It makes you army actually able to survive for realistic lengths of time.
Aloes should be 5 sec kills (max) and a free corpse for your army to grow with.
VS is probably your biggest lack. It makes you army actually able to survive for realistic lengths of time.
Aloes should be 5 sec kills (max) and a free corpse for your army to grow with.
B Ephekt
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Originally Posted by Francis Crawford
What did I do wrong? (Yeah, it was just a dry run, given the low level -- but that's the point.)
Tried to MM without Veratas Sac and Blood of the Master.
You SHOULD be killing the Spiny Aloes, and the Mergoyles, and the Avicara - that's how you get your army up.(and lynx of course, they're free minions)
Here's a tip - you can cap Veratas Sac from Verata instead of waiting to buy it, and if you're a N/Mo you can use Heal Area to replace BoTM. (even if only for a short while)
You SHOULD be killing the Spiny Aloes, and the Mergoyles, and the Avicara - that's how you get your army up.(and lynx of course, they're free minions)
Here's a tip - you can cap Veratas Sac from Verata instead of waiting to buy it, and if you're a N/Mo you can use Heal Area to replace BoTM. (even if only for a short while)
Cirian
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Originally Posted by B Ephekt
Here's a tip - you can cap Veratas Sac from Verata
Er... since when does Verata ever die?
The last time I saw him was during a Yak's Bend quest where he's a friendly NPC the whole time, even though you're 'chasing' him for murdering people and raising them as undead puppets.
Pretty sure he's the 'nameless' Master of Conditions on the Isle of the Nameless now.
I'd really like to know how you managed to cap anything from Verata, just out of idle curiosity
The last time I saw him was during a Yak's Bend quest where he's a friendly NPC the whole time, even though you're 'chasing' him for murdering people and raising them as undead puppets.
Pretty sure he's the 'nameless' Master of Conditions on the Isle of the Nameless now.
I'd really like to know how you managed to cap anything from Verata, just out of idle curiosity
B Ephekt
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Originally Posted by Cirian
Er... since when does Verata ever die?
The last time I saw him was during a Yak's Bend quest where he's a friendly NPC the whole time, even though you're 'chasing' him for murdering people and raising them as undead puppets.
Pretty sure he's the 'nameless' Master of Conditions on the Isle of the Nameless now.
I'd really like to know how you managed to cap anything from Verata, just out of idle curiosity
lol
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Verata%27s_Sacrifice
The last time I saw him was during a Yak's Bend quest where he's a friendly NPC the whole time, even though you're 'chasing' him for murdering people and raising them as undead puppets.
Pretty sure he's the 'nameless' Master of Conditions on the Isle of the Nameless now.
I'd really like to know how you managed to cap anything from Verata, just out of idle curiosity
lolhttp://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Verata%27s_Sacrifice
Cirian
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Originally Posted by B Ephekt
Contessa
Ok. I've done this run around Kryta several times. I just capped virulence and found this to be most effective in that area with minions.
Use tab to target mergoyles for spells. If you do a regular attack, Spirit Shackles will drain your energy.
For my N/R
Rotting Flesh (to prep for Virulence)
Feral Lunge (to prep for Virulence)
Virulence
Bone Horrors
Verata's Sacrifice or Blood of the Master
Troll Unguent
Comfort Animal
Charm Animal
I didn't need to heal the minions much in this area because of their high-level. Also horrors worked better for me than fiends (although you can use them both if you want to). The horrors formed a nice wall in front of me to keep the Ettins and Mergoyles busy while I used my spells.
I also have a Mes/Nec, but this would work for a Nec/Mes.
Enfeeble (you don't need any points in curses to use this as a prep)
And/or Rotting Flesh
Virulence
Epidemic when they swarm
Bone Horrors
Verata's Sacrifice or Blood of the Master
The last slots are optional
That should give you something to play with
Use tab to target mergoyles for spells. If you do a regular attack, Spirit Shackles will drain your energy.
For my N/R
Rotting Flesh (to prep for Virulence)
Feral Lunge (to prep for Virulence)
Virulence
Bone Horrors
Verata's Sacrifice or Blood of the Master
Troll Unguent
Comfort Animal
Charm Animal
I didn't need to heal the minions much in this area because of their high-level. Also horrors worked better for me than fiends (although you can use them both if you want to). The horrors formed a nice wall in front of me to keep the Ettins and Mergoyles busy while I used my spells.
I also have a Mes/Nec, but this would work for a Nec/Mes.
Enfeeble (you don't need any points in curses to use this as a prep)
And/or Rotting Flesh
Virulence
Epidemic when they swarm
Bone Horrors
Verata's Sacrifice or Blood of the Master
The last slots are optional
That should give you something to play with
Contessa
He's down by the Galrath Quest. I tried to cap Verata's Sacrifice from him at least 6 times for myself and other guildies. I posted some pics and my experiences on the sticky at the top of the necro forum on gwonline.net for capping non-elite skills if you are curious.
The bottom line, after over 6 hours of trying to cap it and help others cap it, I found it much easier to get to the copperhammer mines and just buy it. It saved time and the drops were better as I made my way there.
My friend is determined to cap it though. Verata has become his white whale. I think he's spent at least 10 hours trying to kill him.
If I were to need to get Verata's Sacrifice again, here's the methods I'd use:
Method #1
1) Get to Beacon's Perch
2) Get a run to Fort Rankor (or Droks, since Rankor is on the way) or War Camp and skip step 3
3) Get a run to the War Camp or fight your way there with henches (I fought my way there with henches), I found my first green item on the way.
4) Get a run to Copperhammer Mines or fight your way there with henches (I fought my way there with henches)
Method #2 from Droks
1) Go to the Ice Caves and do the mission to arrive at the Iron Mines
2) Get a run or fight your way west with henches to get to Copperhammer (you can cap Virulence on the way)
Method #3, actually kill Verata
All I have are some tips, but if you do manage to kill him, please post the method
Tips:
1) Don't go as a minion master. Verata's "friends" will turn your minions against you.
2) Proceed cautiously. Don't aggro.
3) Bring rangers to set traps and draw smaller groups to you with long bow attacks (I haven't tried this, but I've seen it work in the abbadon's mouth mission)
4) Bring live people. Henches (especially Little Thom) will run ahead and aggro everything even when you don't target.
Good luck!
Here's a picture of the first time I went down there. You can see in the minimap Little Thom running ahead and my fiends attacking groups on the right.
This is only about a third of the enemies and Verata is in the very back on a hill.
The bottom line, after over 6 hours of trying to cap it and help others cap it, I found it much easier to get to the copperhammer mines and just buy it. It saved time and the drops were better as I made my way there.
My friend is determined to cap it though. Verata has become his white whale. I think he's spent at least 10 hours trying to kill him.
If I were to need to get Verata's Sacrifice again, here's the methods I'd use:
Method #1
1) Get to Beacon's Perch
2) Get a run to Fort Rankor (or Droks, since Rankor is on the way) or War Camp and skip step 3
3) Get a run to the War Camp or fight your way there with henches (I fought my way there with henches), I found my first green item on the way.
4) Get a run to Copperhammer Mines or fight your way there with henches (I fought my way there with henches)
Method #2 from Droks
1) Go to the Ice Caves and do the mission to arrive at the Iron Mines
2) Get a run or fight your way west with henches to get to Copperhammer (you can cap Virulence on the way)
Method #3, actually kill Verata
All I have are some tips, but if you do manage to kill him, please post the method
Tips:
1) Don't go as a minion master. Verata's "friends" will turn your minions against you.
2) Proceed cautiously. Don't aggro.
3) Bring rangers to set traps and draw smaller groups to you with long bow attacks (I haven't tried this, but I've seen it work in the abbadon's mouth mission)
4) Bring live people. Henches (especially Little Thom) will run ahead and aggro everything even when you don't target.
Good luck!
Here's a picture of the first time I went down there. You can see in the minimap Little Thom running ahead and my fiends attacking groups on the right.
This is only about a third of the enemies and Verata is in the very back on a hill.
cangeman
Capping Verata's Sacrifice from Verata himself was an interesting experience. 3AM, no guildmates on, and a party full of henchmen. After an hour of doing a graveyard zerg with 60% DP I finally killed the bastard. Can't say it was worth it though after the pain of trying to kill him.
Francis Crawford
I got lazy, bought Verata's Sacrifice with my more advanced character, and bought it a second time for my MM. Yeah, it's helping a bunch. I haven't tried Ettin Farming with him again, however, since I did it ...
First skill I've ever done that with, actually. Probably the last for a good long time too.
First skill I've ever done that with, actually. Probably the last for a good long time too.
Gforce
Well I capped veratas saccer and animate bone friend from verata with my necro.
I had SS on my nec, and he was lvl 15 or so.
Got a full hench party from ToA and departed.
Once I got to the verata cult I had 30% DP or so (..forest minotaurs..)
Once I came at verata cult the rest was easy, from down below I killed about all his minions, then at some point I managed to pull verata himself, killed him and capped my skills.
Guess that works a lot easier then whiping out whole cult o.0
I had SS on my nec, and he was lvl 15 or so.
Got a full hench party from ToA and departed.
Once I got to the verata cult I had 30% DP or so (..forest minotaurs..)
Once I came at verata cult the rest was easy, from down below I killed about all his minions, then at some point I managed to pull verata himself, killed him and capped my skills.
Guess that works a lot easier then whiping out whole cult o.0