Just over the weekend I noticed I could do stuff like use For Great Justice + Tiger Stance, quicky generating the adrenaline for Silverwing Slash (an exact copy of Galrath Slash), which lead to Dragon Slash, which IMMEDIATELY generated the 8 adrenaline for another Silverwing Slash (thanks to double adrenaline gain from FGJ). With Galrath Slash too, that's 5 hard hitting attacks back-to-back:
attack->attack->attack->attack->Silverwing->Galrath->Dragon->Silverwing->Galrath
Under Tiger Stance for a 33% attack speed boost, the first 4 attacks happen quite fast.
<3 Dragon Slash + "For Great Justice"
Cirian
Moa Bird Cultist
My favourite Dragon slash combo was to build up adrenaline for dragon slash, then: "For Great Justice!", Sun and Moon Slash, Dragon Slash, Sun and Moon Slash, Dragon Slash, Sun and Moon Slash, Dragon Slash, Sun and Moon Slash, Dragon Slash until "For great justice!" ran out 
basically, with swordsmanship high enough to get the +5 off dragon slash, you can alternate those two skills almost indefinitely, which is ouchies for all PvE monsters I came across 
with IAS it would be even more deadly, but I didnt get round to trying it.
basically, with swordsmanship high enough to get the +5 off dragon slash, you can alternate those two skills almost indefinitely, which is ouchies for all PvE monsters I came across with IAS it would be even more deadly, but I didnt get round to trying it.
lzlz
Oh no.....please don't post it here. I don't wanna see those axe warriors change back to sword. I want them to stick with their axes and keep using their so-called "best" combo --- pene-evis-exec
merciless
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Originally Posted by lzlz
Oh no.....please don't post it here. I don't wanna see those axe warriors change back to sword. I want them to stick with their axes and keep using their so-called "best" combo --- pene-evis-exec
Sorry, but I am switching back to sword... I've always been a fan of sword, but once I started doing PvP, I could never get into groups because I used a sword. Perhaps now I can get into a group (specifically at Heros' Ascent) with my favourite warrior weapon, the sword.
Crom the Conqueror
heh heh
Finally a sword combo thats worth a dam. that looks like some pretty good combo. I think it is about time Anet make swords more powerful.
Finally a sword combo thats worth a dam. that looks like some pretty good combo. I think it is about time Anet make swords more powerful.
Ristaron
Swords have always been > axes in my books. I don't care about numbers and all that brouhaha, swords are better than axes.
Racthoh
The only problem I have with Dragon Slash is the way it synergizes (that even a word?) with Final Thrust. Both require 10 adrenaline, and if you're going to spike those 4 strikes gained just go to waste. Seems hard to not put the strongest hitting sword skill on your bar, but whether or not the adrenaline chains you can put together are stronger as a result... I'll let the number crunchers figure it out.
SnipiousMax
If you can really string them along like that, you're 'spike' would be a long drawn out increased damage burst rather than an actual spike. It would be intresting to see how the numbers added up.
Racthoh
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Originally Posted by SnipiousMax
If you can really string them along like that, you're 'spike' would be a long drawn out increased damage burst rather than an actual spike. It would be intresting to see how the numbers added up.
The only problem being once the spike starts (in PvP at least), a Protective Spirit would probably be tossed up. As such, damage is going to be wasted, not to mention deep wound didn't get thrown into the chain. 
Katari
Better yet, combo Dragon Slash with Sun and Moon Slash. Under "For Great Justice" you can literaly alternate Sun&Moon with Dragon Slash as fast as you can swing. You'll need around 15 sword at least for such a combo however. Great for PvE, kinda risky in PvP, since the first time Dragon Slash misses, your chain of attacks ends.
SnipiousMax
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Originally Posted by Racthoh
The only problem being once the spike starts (in PvP at least), a Protective Spirit would probably be tossed up. As such, damage is going to be wasted, not to mention deep wound didn't get thrown into the chain.
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Worse yet, Mark of Protection.
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JR
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Finally a sword combo thats worth a dam.
Sever > Gash > Final is a great combo. Not only that but it is a hell of a lot better than this one, due to it's spike-ablity.
Xiaxhou of Trinity
Dragon, sun, moon slash? Are these new sword skills from Factions or from an update? I didn't see any of these on the war skill listings but maybe since it's just not updated yet or maybe it's from the Factions preview weekend........
Racthoh
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Originally Posted by JR-
Sever > Gash > Final is a great combo. Not only that but it is a hell of a lot better than this one, due to it's spike-ablity.
I just wish this wouldn't be the necessity in Factions, but since sword warriors didn't get another way to inflict bleeding or deep wound, I fear this may remain the case for us sword swinging types.
thor hammerbane
Finally...a sword elite that is good and is not Hundred Blades. When i used it in factions i hit tiger stance+for great, hit sever+gash, then i just stayed in the dragon+whatever slash cycle. worked real nice.
Yukito Kunisaki
Eviscerate + Exe. Strike + etc. is still going to be the most powerful even with said new combo.
Why? 2 words... Deep Wound  In less skills than a sword, an axe can do just as much. I abandoned sword not because of its damage, well, ok, it's damage in pve... In pvp a sword could be better than an axe really... Cause of bleeding. But for a multi-dimensional gamer like me, PvE is part of the game I love to play and sword sux in PvE all the time. No deep wound? No Bleeding? No Skill Locking with a sword either... Nothing like Disrupting Chop to stuff that Res signet... For me, Axe is still > than sword even with Factions... Also, don't forget, a heavy crit with axe beats a sword all the time every time...
Despondency
I like Axes more than swords as well. But they both have their strong points.
K.Ichigo
Uh, Swordsmanship has no Bleeding or Deep Wound? Wtf?
question
attack->attack->attack->attack->Silverwing->Galrath->Dragon->Silverwing->Galrath
wats silverwing and dragon slash? and tiger stance i didnt see it
The Muffen Man
Haha you all make me larf where is the deep wound and bleeding ??
Well now you say sword is better I say u forget your self, say hello to my new axe skill friend: Lacerating chop kd foe bleeds for x amount of sec so: Shock, lacerating chop, eviserate, executioners. We have knock down, bleeding and deep wound + extra damage in +extra damage with only 4 skills can swords do that ? Oh and dont forget axe rack crippled and bleeding and deep wound oh the fun
Thom Bangalter
pfft. Hammer warriors will pwn you everytime! Hammer>you. 1337!
Seriously, though. Don't overlook the knocklock. I assume by pvp you mean heroes ascent. Because Hammer warriors are awesome in gvg.
Katari
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Haha you all make me larf where is the deep wound and bleeding ??
Well now you say sword is better I say u forget your self, say hello to my new axe skill friend: Lacerating chop kd foe bleeds for x amount of sec so: Shock, lacerating chop, eviserate, executioners. We have knock down, bleeding and deep wound + extra damage in +extra damage with only 4 skills can swords do that ? Oh and dont forget axe rack crippled and bleeding and deep wound oh the fun
Shock+Lacerating+Evicerate+Exe is roughly equal to Shock+Sever+Gash+Final.Dragon Slash strikes me as a PvE skill. It allows you to hit one mob with sever+gash, then go and hit another mob with the same combo in rapid suscession. The DS+S&M Slash +FGJ combo is also a PvE combo; I don't really think anyone was seriously advocating using the combo in PvP, or at least I wasn't. That being said, does anyone know where to cap the skill? Has it been changed since the FPE?
Da Cebuano
In pvp nothing is gonna touch the chargesword build so far
sever gash final charge FTW, the new builds are nice, but its less utility effective, since too much is imphasized on DPS, sever + gash does about the same dmg(if no condition removed right away) in about what? 4 and 7 hits ^^ softies don't stand a chance most the time anyway, charge is too awesome to give up. Charge + frenzy(tiger stance) is perfect. Axe will remain the same sadly, cept maybe replace executioner w/ the copy of penetrating blow, which is 3 strikes less than exectioner. I'm thinking axe would go: Evi + lacerating axe(dunno name) + penetrating blow = crzy dmg + deepwould followed up by 2 20% armor penetration attacks. Other than that, largely unchanged Hammers will be different though, w/ some imphasis on weakness combos, gonna be interesting. What will change is the KD skills though, we might see less W/E and more on pure warrior. Shove/Coward/None shall pass, I assume will make it to the pvp ladder soon. Especially None shall pass, KD EOE on moving foes... softies like to move ^^ Xellos
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Originally Posted by lzlz
Oh no.....please don't post it here. I don't wanna see those axe warriors change back to sword. I want them to stick with their axes and keep using their so-called "best" combo --- pene-evis-exec
One, penetrating blow isn't part of the combo. Only people who waste slots would get it.
Two, dragon slash is conflicting because then you either give up all versatility and became a rage machine on stationary targets because of using up 5 slots just for attacks (severe/gash/galrath/copy/dragon), or you use just galrath/copy/dragon and have no deep wounds. Your return capabilities will then exceed axe, but your spike damage will not. Much better as pressure then. However, there are new combos that have more decent pressure damage while retaining a spike to a lesser degree (due to no FT unless you gimp versatility again), but adds something else conditionally. Sword definately can compete with axe now, but as far as pressure goes, I have to go with Ensign on hammer. ES is just too good to pass up.
Zephyr Jackson
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(thanks to double adrenaline gain from FGJ).
the skills recharge 50% faster so that is 1.5 strikes of adrenaline instead of 2
sh4ft3d
Lol, what the muffin man said was hilarious. Sword can do bleeding/deepwound in two skills. Without a kd required XD
DarkZeal
I've been in love with swords ever since I laid my eyes on the Katana skin. Cheap, looking and effective. : )
hunter
Anyone know where to cap dragon slash anyways?
NinjaMonkey
It's on the first boss in that mission where you get the spear thingy from the luxons
megaforcetkd
I've been doing this since I capped dragon slash :P. And to those loseres who think swords cant deep wound -.-. EVER HEARD OF SEVER ARTERY + GASH ?
Racthoh
I've become quite fond of the Dragon Slash + FGJ... along with Standing Slash + Sun and Moon Slash. 20 seconds at 16 sword drops bosses nicely.
Beat_Go_Stick
Hrm...I never liked sword or hammer as much as axe from day 1 but farming builds and GvG made me always wish I liked them more. Maybe it's time to give 'em both another chance...
Yukito Kunisaki
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Lol, what the muffin man said was hilarious. Sword can do bleeding/deepwound in two skills. Without a kd required XD
Axe can do +84 bonus damage and deepwound in 2 skills...
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