ZBoard GW:F keyset

Joh

Joh

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Join Date: Feb 2006

Sweden

Lucid Dreams [LD]

Looks like us ZBoard owners (though I'm still waiting for mine to arrive) will get a new keyset pretty soon.

http://www.webhallen.com/prod.php?id=57398 (note: swedish page, but image and description are in english)

edit: "Boka" is swedish for pre-order so I guess it's not released yet. Specially since I can't find it at the official page either.

Esprit

Esprit

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Dvd Forums [DVDF]

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Care to elaborate what makes a ZBoard so special compared to normal keyboards?

wwwgeek7

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2005

USA

R/

Read about it here:
http://www.zboard.com/

ibex333

ibex333

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Brooklyn, NY

[EYE]

Rt/A

Yay! it's about time!

Can someone who already has a zboard explain a couple of things to me?

1) So you buy this thing, it snaps on your keyboard, install the software, and you're good to go? Or you need to buy something else?

2)In your experience, how much did this help with your gaming? Rate it in usefulness 1 to 10 please.


If this thing is useful, I rather buy this and Factions - NOT CE. For the price of CE, I can have the Zboard and Factions.

dargon

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

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Personally, I prefer this

http://www.overclockercafe.com/Revie...ing/index.html

which you can get from newegg for $35 US, IMO, all the zboard is is a keyboard with fancy graphics and a few buttons that are shaped slightly differently.

The zboard insert works out to roughly $28 US (though newegg sells the inserts from around $20) + the cost of the zboard ($43 US at newegg). Sure the zboard is a full keyboard but really is it particularly comfortable to use for anything except gaming, not to mention that each game you want to use it 'properly' for requires that you spend more money.

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joh
Looks like us ZBoard owners (though I'm still waiting for mine to arrive) will get a new keyset pretty soon.
http://www.webhallen.com/prod.php?id=57398 (note: swedish page, but image and description are in english) edit: "Boka" is swedish for pre-order so I guess it's not released yet. Specially since I can't find it at the official page either.
Oooh, that's lovely! I hadn't seen that before. Thanks for the link!

rollntider

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

anarchy

Me/Rt

I have a zboard I will definately pick one up. I had one for wow, I traded it for the LOTR games. I cant wait to use one for the game I play the most.

Feminist Terrorist

Feminist Terrorist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Oh Noes! The 'burbs!

I didn't know there was a z-board for GW. I had looked some months ago, but didn't find it on the site.

theVariable

theVariable

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

CA, USA

Knights of the Hokuten [KotH] (hokuten.org)

Mo/Me

Feminist, that's because it's new

Dargon, thanks for the link. The WolfKing Warrior looks a lot better for my uses, since I tend to play more than one game and I do so on my laptop

skretth

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Australia

its probably because if u go through the forums, teh gw posts have hte most compared to ANY other game there

Mordakai

Mordakai

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

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There's even an ad for it in the most recent PCGamer!

Mindcrime

Mindcrime

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Sweden

[Dark]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joh
edit: "Boka" is swedish for pre-order so I guess it's not released yet. Specially since I can't find it at the official page either.
Correct.

Lucifer PVP

Lucifer PVP

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Refuge From Exile [RFE] Refuge-From-Exile.com

W/Mo

Here is the link on zboards page, they have yet to put up a link on their main site

http://www.zboard.com/experience/guildwars/

Feminist Terrorist

Feminist Terrorist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Oh Noes! The 'burbs!

So...does this actually help your game or is it just something new and spiffy to use? Not that there's anything wrong with new gadgets.

Kybos

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

AZ

SCC

I have many ZBoards, and I have them all to be pretty useful.

The layout is nice for the keysets that I have; but, buying keysets for each game gets kinda lame and expensive.

I will probably buy this keyset when it comes out, but thats cuz I am a freak for Zboard keysets.

nohooiam

nohooiam

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Forsaken Sanctuary

Mo/Me

honestly i think its a big waste of money.

for 60 bucks, the better choice is getting the high end keyboard from logi or ms

rollntider

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

anarchy

Me/Rt

the actual keyset is usually 20 bucks online and 15 in stores. The base set is around 40 bucks, if you already own a zboard base like me, then the cost will be around 15 bucks. I will purchase it because it has GW on it

Poison Ivy

Poison Ivy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Toronto

Hopping

Mo/A

*Looks at my standard Dell keyboard*

*sigh*

T1Cybernetic

T1Cybernetic

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Join Date: Sep 2005

Wakefield, West Yorkshire, Uk, Nr Earth

Alternate Evil Gamers [aeg]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joh
Looks like us ZBoard owners (though I'm still waiting for mine to arrive) will get a new keyset pretty soon.

http://www.webhallen.com/prod.php?id=57398 (note: swedish page, but image and description are in english)

edit: "Boka" is swedish for pre-order so I guess it's not released yet. Specially since I can't find it at the official page either.

Thats pretty cool news for us z-boarders, but now i need
to find the space to fit, yet another keyset for another game, .

It's starting to look like a z-board warehouse my place...

BellyFlop

BellyFlop

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Here for people in the UK they can get the Keys here as well.

http://shop.gameplay.co.uk/webstore/productpage.asp?productcode=RM02759&title=zboard_k %20eyset_-_guild_wars_factions_-_limited_edition!

Released: 28 April 2006

osmosisjones

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2006

I have seen alot of people complain about things like this simply because they believe it is against the EULA, in a way i suppose it can be:

You agree not to use any hardware or software, including but not limited to third party tools, or any other method of support which may in any way influence or advantage your use of the Service which is not authorized by NC Interactive, including but not limited to the use of ‘bots’ and/or any other method by which the Service may be played automatically without human input.

I dont know too much about these Keyboards, but its macro's right ?
and arent most bot programs based on macro's, sure it requires human input but so do the actual bots that are running around. Im guessing you can program in your own key commands with this keyboard, sure it might not be able to be used to farm, but it still could be used as an advantage over other players.

Basically all im trying to ask is where does A Net draw the line on third party tools ?

BTW just to clear up I personally dont actually have a problem with people using these im just curious about some of the rules.

rollntider

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

anarchy

Me/Rt

the zboard does not support macros, it basically allows the user to put keyboard short cuts where they want, and plus it gives your keyboard a nice skin.

By having a factions Zboard you are any more advantaged than I without one. There are no macros involved. You would need to provide "human input" to use a zboard. Unless I am mistaken (i had my zboard for a few years now) there isnt a way to use macros with it. There may be 3rd party utilities or something, but you can get a nostromo pad to use macros. I also don't see how a macro could help in guild wars to be honest or see how that would be any fun.

Basically it is an easy way to organise your hot keys with a cool GW skin.

osmosisjones

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2006

Im probably mistaken, but isnt a macro basically just a shortcut or a series of shortcuts (sort of like Ctrl+shift+H, instead of going to the menu and disabling the interface), as I stated earlier I have literally no idea what these Z-Boards are capable of but if you can input a series of different strings to perform different tasks for you that is using a third party device that can give you an edge over others.

Once again sorry for my noobishness, if all you can do is set key shortcuts that you can set in Gw itself on your own keyboard then fine, but if it isnt then im still confused on the matter.

Mordakai

Mordakai

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Oooh, that's lovely! I hadn't seen that before. Thanks for the link!
Sounds like Gaile's OK with it (FWIW)

rollntider

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

anarchy

Me/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by osmosisjones
Im probably mistaken, but isnt a macro basically just a shortcut or a series of shortcuts (sort of like Ctrl+shift+H, instead of going to the menu and disabling the interface),
correct that is a macro
Quote:
Originally Posted by osmosisjones
as I stated earlier I have literally no idea what these Z-Boards are capable of but if you can input a series of different strings to perform different tasks for you that is using a third party device that can give you an edge over others.
as I stated earlier in the post above yours
Quote:
Originally Posted by rollntider
There are no macros involved. ....... there isnt a way to use macros with it.
I have had one for some time now,

Quote:
Originally Posted by osmosisjones
Once again sorry for my noobishness, if all you can do is set key shortcuts that you can set in Gw itself on your own keyboard then fine, but if it isnt then im still confused on the matter.
Yes that is what it can do .

I believe you are confusing keyboard shortcuts with macros , they are different. On a regular keyboard you hit "H" to bring up the "hero" screen. On the zboard there will be a "hero" button labeled as such. There wont be a macro to bring up the hero screen.
There will also probably be a "skills" key that is hotlinked to the "K" key i dont know this info as for which keys are which, but that is how the zboard functions

Tom Woodrunner

Tom Woodrunner

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Kodiak Tribe

R/Mo

I'd wait till later in the year for this:

http://www.artlebedev.com/portfolio/optimus/

THAT is going to be THE keyboard. I'm guessing they will probably sell programs to load on the board but the code will be open source so you won't have to pay too much for the codes and people who play GW can write them and share them for nothing.

Not really rearranging or reshaping keys so you would not have to learn new key positions. It will be an open-source keyboard, SDK will be available.

Not cheap. Around $300 is what I have heard, I don't believe it...but there are more uses than just games, and its tres elegant, no?

rollntider

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

anarchy

Me/Rt

yeah it looks sweet, but I wont hold my breath until it is released. Plus 300 for a keyboard is a bit steep.

But it looks promising

EF2NYD

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

I admit those keyboards are cool (especially the Optimus one, been waiting how that turns out for awhile) but really, who actually looks at their keyboard while playing?

Joh

Joh

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Sweden

Lucid Dreams [LD]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Oooh, that's lovely! I hadn't seen that before. Thanks for the link!
Most welcome.

On another note, it's on the official page now, together with a high res image (just click the keyset to the upper right).

http://www.zboard.com/europe/product..._guildwars.asp

Pettson

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Old maybe? Anyway, incase someone missed ^^

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...ard-id1861.php

Joh

Joh

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Join Date: Feb 2006

Sweden

Lucid Dreams [LD]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pettson
Old maybe? Anyway, incase someone missed ^^

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...ard-id1861.php
Indeed it's old (I should know since I started the thread ) and since I haven't visited GWGuru in a few weeks, I wasn't sure if it was shown anywhere else.

rollntider

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

anarchy

Me/Rt

I ordered my factions keyboard today, now to get factions CE shipped to me I will be doing fine.

rotaulave

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Ftl Fla

Knights of Pallas [KOP]

W/Mo

I have a Zboard and have down loaded the key set for GW.
I then found the color bmp pic (file of all pics for zboards in the download) of the keys for GW and printed them on sticking paper gotten at Office depot office max Walmart or Staple
cut out and stuck on and i love it. I looked at the Factions layout and dont like it as much. The only complaint is i have to leave my full keyboard plugged int to chat or do other stuff other then GW BuT, they now have the Merc-Zboard which is just like the original zboard but with a Full keyboard to the right of the game pad area, which has solve my having to use a second keyboard no more. This also has a GW keys for downloand and i would really recommend over the Factions one check out the zboard.com site check on the Merc. If you must have the Factions key set and dont have a Zboard then wait just a bit they have had on all new games so far a buy the Zboard and get the add on board free rebate.So for instance with Call to Duty2 they sold it for 20 and had a 20 rebate when you buy a zboard. But i recommend getting the MERC-zboard.



IGN Rota Ulave

rollntider

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Join Date: Sep 2005

anarchy

Me/Rt

to each his on, I found the crossfire keyset to be annoying and uncomfortable.
To each his own I guess.

sumasage

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by rotaulave
I have a Zboard and have down loaded the key set for GW.
I then found the color bmp pic (file of all pics for zboards in the download) of the keys for GW and printed them on sticking paper gotten at Office depot office max Walmart or Staple
cut out and stuck on and i love it. I looked at the Factions layout and dont like it as much. The only complaint is i have to leave my full keyboard plugged int to chat or do other stuff other then GW BuT, they now have the Merc-Zboard which is just like the original zboard but with a Full keyboard to the right of the game pad area, which has solve my having to use a second keyboard no more. This also has a GW keys for downloand and i would really recommend over the Factions one check out the zboard.com site check on the Merc. If you must have the Factions key set and dont have a Zboard then wait just a bit they have had on all new games so far a buy the Zboard and get the add on board free rebate.So for instance with Call to Duty2 they sold it for 20 and had a 20 rebate when you buy a zboard. But i recommend getting the MERC-zboard.



IGN Rota Ulave
From reading your response i'm get the impression that you can download the "key layout" to use it for the games. is that correct?

Joh

Joh

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Sweden

Lucid Dreams [LD]

Quote:
Originally Posted by sumasage
From reading your response i'm get the impression that you can download the "key layout" to use it for the games. is that correct?
With the game keyset that comes shipped with the ZBoard, you can. It has one for GW aswell. Though, I think I'd rather want the Factions one, so I'm ordering it. :P

I personally don't like the Merc, it's wider than a normal keyboard. It's too squished to not get too wide, so there's no room for all extra keys (numpad and del keys are the same ones). Since I use the numpad almost daily (programming, typing numbers, etc), I rather like the ability to switch keypads and still have it work. Also, IMO it's too big.

Allatu

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

N/Mo

I have the best keyboard for gamming... A STANDARD LEFT HANDED KEYBOARD!!!!

Why is it so awesome? The directional, numeric, pageup/down buttons are all on the left side freeing your right hand for the trackball/mouse.

The left handed keyboard is more suited to games and webbrowsing than anything else i've ever seen.

You must all get one, immediately.

cyberzomby

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

Netherlands

The Heroics

N/Me

that wolf warrior looks pretty cool

rotaulave

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Ftl Fla

Knights of Pallas [KOP]

W/Mo

sorry been on vacation, yes you can Download the keyset.